sarkish, 20 Apr 2010it needed to be said. save the world from The Desire. what a cheesy name for a phone. and the ... more"it needed to be said. save the world from The Desire. what a cheesy name for a phone."
lets look at the names SE have given their phones:
-satio / idou
-g700 business edition (basically a g700 without a camera, the name to me wud hv indicated improved version, but i guess thats not the case)
u dont find any of these names cheesy?
("look at me im so pure, i only have the essential parts, im yours for just $900. i also hv a calming effect when u cant see my display in daylight") i used to make fun of iphone fanboys until SE made the pureness.
"and the next one is named even worse. The Incredible. seriously, u wana buy phones from a company who gives their phones the cheesiest names ever ?"
--> at least se fanboys will no longer be able to say. its got 8mpx instead of 5, buy x10. if the incredible doesnt tie with the se x10 in a spec category, it beats the x10 in that category. x10 doesnt hv any feature better than the incredible. also if u dont find any of SE's names for phones cheesy u must be deaf and blind.
"how much of a inferiority complex have they got ? lol."
--> cud it be their way of marketing (take diamond for instance)??? btw speaking of inferiority, SE had asked HTC to make the x1. and y does it take SE so long to release a phone after they have announced it? they just announce phones with great specs but then are usually not first to deliver a phone with those specs. (no inferiority complex here).
hamid, 20 Apr 2010x10 is monster desire is god but after x10
x10 very better from desire i dont buy a phone wi... more"x10 is monster desire is god but after x10"
--> so a monster is higher ranked than god? i dont think so
"x10 very better from desire i dont buy a phone with outdate cameta 5 mp are u kiding me?"
--> its not the cam that most important. desire has more ram, better display, smaller size, and a few extras. 5mp is not outdated, its just standard.
"many user want smartphone (android) with 8 megapixel and amazing video recording
if u want buy a 12 mp cameraphone u must buy a satio from se"
--> what about samsung pixon 12, samsung w880 with 3x optical zoom? but somehow u dont seem to understand that a camera isnt the most important feature on a phone. otherwise u wudnt be constantly posting about the x10 hving a better cam than the desire and y ppl shud buy x10 simply bcos of the cam. u hvnt given any other reasons. the opinion of fanboys is useles.
Sarkish, 20 Apr 20101. compared to Desire, X10 is definitely stunning. i saw people gushing over it in the store a... more"1. compared to Desire, X10 is definitely stunning. i saw people gushing over it in the store at the first look."
--> where i am its the other way round. and u cant say which phone is better depending on how many ppl buy it. lots of ppl buy iphones and how good r they?
"2. why can't i have a good cam in a high end phone ? I'll grant you that 5 MP isn't bad, however the performance is worse than my old N95 5 MP cam. by your argument, if people want more memory they should buy a desktop, or the iPhone users can say, if u want multitasking, go buy a desktop or a laptop. that argument doesn't work."
--> se x10 does hv a better cam but it cant multitask as well. i prefer multitasking. but this is about preferences.
"3. screen: as i said in both of my posts, you need to see the phones side by side to make a true comparison, not go by the specs or the videos or reviews. i have seen and played with both phones side by side."
--> if u had actually clicked the links in my previous post u wud hv seen that it is a side by side comparison photo of the screens under light and in the dark and even tilted at angles. i hv seen & used both. the x10 screen is just worse. perhaps itll get better with android 2.1 or 2.2.
"4. X10 does support 32 GB. check any of the X10 blogs or forums."
--> according to SE's webiste for the phone it doesnt support 32gb. if it does support 32gb then that shows the quality of the ppl running the company website. ill take ur word 4 it.
"5. 4GB : GSM Arena and techradar both say Desire ships with 4 GB. however i'll take your word for it. That goes to show how much u can trust online reviews."
--> true out of the box it comes with 4gb but retailers where i am give u an extra 8gb card as a promotional thing. like i said it is very dependent on the location.
"6. X10 no multitasking ? are you kidding ? Multi-tasking works fine in X10."
--> sry i meant desire has better multitasking.
"7. multitouch: i said its a personal preference because it depends on how people prefer to work in their apps whereas camera is a hardware and spec issue. if it is really that important, X10 will have it in Sep. apparently your perfect phone also has to wait for video upgrade and app memory issue for which there is no date yet."
--> true both of them need updates. but the product manager of se x10 said there is also a hardware problem with it so it wont support multitouch. if that persons wrong, then SE have a terrible manager.
"8. performance: my friend's X10 works fine. transitions and apps both. he did turn off the animations because of the battery drain, but HTC isn't faring much better in the battery issue either."
--> performance on both is fine. but the x10 does need more processing power for its ui. this means less processing power for other apps. true the x10 also has better battery life.
"10. Sense UI. i agree it has more eye candy, but does it help users to accomplish tasks more efficinetly than SE's UI ? i would say not, but if someone prefers a more catchy interface i wouldn't fault them either, just keep an eye on that battery meter however."
--> i wud say SE has more eye candy such has several tones of blue and animations for contacts and such. sense ui has widgets or shortcuts which are faster to work with than going thru menus to open the individual app. i admit the battery is worse on desire.
"in the end, i did say ( in both of my posts btw), that this is MY take. i suggested users should try the phones first hand and not rely on reviews or spec sheets or videos as we all know they can be biased or manipulated or just plain wrong."
--> dont worry i tried them both
"For the sake of fairness, even if the Desire wins on couple of points that u mentioned, it loses on all the other points. On aggregate, X10 still wins. in my opinion. :)"
--> thats ur opinion, im just saying mine. besides there r extras that r not mentioned (but lets not get into that). there is no strong reason to choose 1 over the other. its mostly personal taste.
Fatoom, 21 Apr 2010Wow, Sarkish you really did your research and I thank you for your post. I currently have the ... moreGood for you.. now go read in x10 forums there are more usefull information in there about x10 than that guy(a) can give..
Sarkish, 19 Apr 2010I was waiting for the Desire to compare it to the X10, and now i've seen both, played with bot... moreWow, Sarkish you really did your research and I thank you for your post. I currently have the SE X1 and I'm ready to go Android. I was seriously considering the HTC Desire but now leaning towards the X10 and I admit I've always been a huge SE fan. Thanks again.
sarkish, 20 Apr 2010it needed to be said. save the world from The Desire. what a cheesy name for a phone. and the ... moreIf you really like your phone and not disapointed with it.. you woudent have time post in HTC forum.. it clearly shows that you are disapointed with your phone thats why you are posting to an HTC forum trying to prove to yourself that you have buy the right one or make yourself feelgood while deep inside of you telling "i should have bought the HTC desire"
How boaring the phone you have could be. cuz you have more time posting to an HTC forum than playing with your newly purchase phone...
Lyon, 20 Apr 2010lol seriously this forum is for ppl who are contemplating to buy Desire and have questions on ... moreTell me about it... The HTC Desire forum page is for what else other then the HTC Desire! It seems particular individuals just want to justify there purchase of the Xperia X10 by outright talking rubbish about a competing phone such as the HTC Desire.
I've had my Desire for almost a week now, and I believe it's really the best smartphone I've ever owned. Everything is smooth, works well, the Sense UI is just wonderful to use. Only thing I had to fix right away was downloading a new virtual keyboard from the Market because the built-in one had a quite ugly solution to entering swedish letters (åäö), holding the A or O letter and choose from the popup. The app "Scandinavian Keyboard" fixed that for me :)
Just a little note to the ones arguing that the X10 is better, I was at a phone store today to get a case for my Desire and the salesperson wanted to have a look at my phone (because they hadn't got them in stock yet) and he said it felt much better than the X10 (which they had been selling for a couple of weeks).
He described the X10 as a bit sluggish and not as touch-responsive as the Desire and told me the SE user interface is quite cr*ppy in comparison to Sense.
I usually don't trust sales people but this one knew he wouldn't sell me a phone because I already have a brand new one so he really had no reason to lie.
nah, i'm not affiliated with SE in anyway, and i don't even have any preference for them in general. for the last 2 years i've been using Nokia but like a lot of people i'm excited about Android. I decided to post my impressions here bc there is a lot of cross-shopping between between X10 and Desire since these two are the latest to hit the market. My post was strictly about the products, however HTC retarded fanboys couldn't handle my opinion and responded in typical retarded fashion instead of having a factual discussion. so go on, cherish your " greatest phone ever made", lol. what will you say when X10 will have the same or higher version of android as Desire? and it'll still be better looking, with better capabilities all around. oh and FYI, i'm actually going to wait for the HTC Incredible since it sounds just about perfect, the only drawbacks being the AMOLED screen's sunlight legibility and only 512 ROM. i'm done discussing the very mildly desirable Desire. talk amongst yourselves. :)
sarkish, 20 Apr 2010it needed to be said. save the world from The Desire. what a cheesy name for a phone. and the ... moreYo listen, please dont be too proud about your SE. Name has got nothing to do with quality. HTC can name their device with anything they want, because HTC knows that the product they produced always the best.
and you should know one thing about HTC & SE. SE has asked HTC to just make a phone, one of the phone is Xperia X1. X1 IS MANUFACTURED BY HTC.
My question here, has HTC ever released a phone which is manufactured by SE? I dont think so.
You should know the fact first before you give bad comments/opinions about HTC. Shame on you!
lol seriously this forum is for ppl who are contemplating to buy Desire and have questions on Desire. are you guys Sales Representatives from SE or smth? if so you're doing a pretty bad job lol... just go home hug your SE to sleep knowing that you have bought the bestest phone on earth. we aint gonna convince u it's not~ actually I am using SE right now and I think SE and HTC are equally good in different ways. but having to be associated with likes of you guys is making me sick of the idea of owning an SE phone... I really like Sony! They make great digital electronic devices such as PSP etc... Japanese are well known for their high-tech products...
hamid, 20 Apr 2010x10 is monster desire is god but after x10
x10 very better from desire i dont buy a phone wi... morefirst of all, you are illiterate. that kinnda explains your affection for x10. sorry, i just had to.
secondly, no one's forcing you to buy desire with "outdated 5MP camera" (btw. yust fyi number of pixels doesn't mean quality by itself).
i, for one thing, don't go to x10 comments with intention to impose my own opinion and to try to convince people that desire is better. i find that is waste of time even though i have plenty of arguments, unlike you and your equally unobjective and annoying friend sarkish. you should both do something together, you are some kind of soulmates. Sweet.
it needed to be said. save the world from The Desire. what a cheesy name for a phone. and the next one is named even worse. The Incredible. seriously, u wana buy phones from a company who gives their phones the cheesiest names ever ? how much of a inferiority complex have they got ? lol.
hamid, 20 Apr 2010x10 is monster desire is god but after x10
x10 very better from desire i dont buy a phone wi... moreI must repeat SE=Best Camera phones but HTC=Best Smartphones
You guys cant compare SE with HTC for SmartPhones...
yeah, we are funny. that's why we are not in X10 forum and trying convince everyone there that desire is better than X10.
yeah, we are funny. lol.
Guys stop bitching! You need to have owned and tried both phones for a few days to really get the feel and see what works better for yourselves.
I had both and personally I prefer by far the Desire for many reasons which i'm not going to list here since there are enough reviews on both phones..
pH1, 20 Apr 2010"1. Desire looks very basic and has no wow factor visually. X10 on the other hand, is stu... morex10 is monster desire is god but after x10
x10 very better from desire i dont buy a phone with outdate cameta 5 mp are u kiding me?
many user want smartphone (android) with 8 megapixel and amazing video recording
if u want buy a 12 mp cameraphone u must buy a satio from se
still sony like no other ...
Sarkish, 20 Apr 20101. compared to Desire, X10 is definitely stunning. i saw people gushing over it in the store a... more"1. compared to Desire, X10 is definitely stunning. i saw people gushing over it in the store at the first look.
10. Sense UI. i agree it has more eye candy, but does it help users to accomplish tasks more efficinetly than SE's UI ? i would say not, but if someone prefers a more catchy interface i wouldn't fault them either, just keep an eye on that battery meter however."
I hope, you see why can't we take you seriously.
It does matter that X10 looks well from outside, but it does not Desire Sense looks better from inside.