phone is AMAZING! very responsive, hinge is fine *touch wood* great sound quality and app market is brilliant...would DEF. recommend even over the desire itself - and i wanted that (the original desire) from the day it was announced! well done HTC
0v0, 24 Nov 2010Which is better, This or Nokia E7? cos i am confused. tnxThe HTC Desire Z is much better than the Nokia buy no mistake
Stuntman, 23 Nov 2010I got my phone from Bell (Canada) which happens to be the network I'm on. It's the Desire Z w... morethanks for repley, my problem is to buy Bell (Canada) from USA, not where or how?, you help me with some website?
In Bell told me not to make shipments to the United States
thanks in advance
@stuntman - i wanted to ask u this.......in the desire Z, is there an option to type thru the touch interface in the landscape mode too.......i.e does the qwerty keyboard option pops up in landscape mode on turning the phone horizontally, so that we cud type without opening the keyboard ???????
yomero911, 23 Nov 2010well.. can i buy this phone from bell (canada)? from USA? .. where? how? .. i need this.. not... moreI got my phone from Bell (Canada) which happens to be the network I'm on. It's the Desire Z with the Sense UI and not the G2.
If you are from the US, you'll have to ask someone else about unlocking it as I'm not familiar with how to do that.
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2010thanks bro thanks alot...phone is now appealing me more..how is screen and camera compare to n... moreIt's sunny here today, so I went outside during lunch to see how the screen looks while in the sun. It's actually pretty good. I did some FB and Twitter stuff and did not have any issue seeing. I also launched Google Maps as well. I did notice that I needed a few moments for my eyes to adjust. The first thing I saw was the finger prints on the screen. After a few moments, I didn't notice them anymore.
well.. can i buy this phone from bell (canada)? from USA? .. where? how? .. i need this.. not the t-mobile g2.. ! please
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2010thanks bro thanks alot...phone is now appealing me more..how is screen and camera compare to n... moreYou're welcome.
The screen is really nice. The higher resolution makes the images a bit crisper. The browser on the Desire Z is better than the one on the N97, so it is difficult to make a really controlled comparison. I do have Opera Mini on both, but the font settings seem to be slightly different. I use a larger font on the N97, but still with the smaller font on the Desire Z, I can read text very well. As expected, the higher resolution and slightly larger screen give the Desire Z an edge.
I haven't had much of an opportunity to try out the Desire Z in sunlight. It gets dark here early now. There was only one day that I pulled out my Desire Z in mid-day sunshine and just glanced at it. I thought that under sunlight, the N97 screen was more visible.
As for the camera, I thought they were about the same. I don't use it for taking pictures or videos much. I took a few and only looked at them on the phone, so cannot say much about the picture quality. I did take one night time video of my friend trying to drive through the snow. It seemed pretty clear for a night time video. I didn't do the same for the N97, so do not have a good baseline to compare the two.
There is no lens cover on the Desire Z. I did notice scratches forming on the N97 due to the lens cover issue. The lack of a lens cover on the Desire Z does not appear to be an issue. The way the camera is set up, the glass is not flush with the back of the phone on the Desire Z. The frame around the camera protrudes a fraction of a millimeter out compared to the glass. This way, when you rest the phone on a surface, the frame prevents the glass from contacting the surface to prevent scratches. You may get finger prints on the lens as you handle the phone, but finger prints can be easily dealt with by wiping the lens.
Stuntman, 22 Nov 2010My understanding is that the hinge was designed to be loose so that the keyboard is easily ope... morethanks bro thanks alot...phone is now appealing me more..how is screen and camera compare to n97???? :)))) again thanks in advance
yugam11, 22 Nov 2010please help........
is hinge irritating or its just fine?
and do u think hinge is durable li... moreMy understanding is that the hinge was designed to be loose so that the keyboard is easily opened and closed. It opens and closes without snapping hard into place. It is definitely easier to open and close than the N97.
I do not feel that I'm a good judge of the longevity of the hinge. I only have this phone for 2 weeks. It hasn't shown any signs of weakening so far. I tend to be careful when opening and closing the keyboard. I'm the same way with my N97. What I do feel is that the N97 hinge seems more sturdy than the Desire Z. The supports on the Desire Z are thinner than the N97. Still the Desire Z hinge feels solid. I tried twisting it while half open and there is no give.
Stuntman, 22 Nov 2010I think it is more personal preference than design flaw. I've used 3 different smartphones wi... moreplease help........
is hinge irritating or its just fine?
and do u think hinge is durable like say a period of 2-3 years?
do you think hinge has became comparatively loose then it was on the day when u bought the phone??
thanks in advance...it will be hugely helpful if u do replied
Anonymous, 21 Nov 2010Yea, the nature of the Z mechanism means that the top row is waaay too close the screen. Serio... moreI think it is more personal preference than design flaw. I've used 3 different smartphones with keyboards: Nokia N97, BlackBerry Tour and HTC Desire Z. All three are designed differently and have a completely different feel to it.
I am most used to the N97 as I used it most often and have had it for 7 months. The BB keys are just way too close for my liking. I also rarely type on it, so I always have difficulties using it when I do. I got this at work shortly after getting the N97, but still have difficulties using it.
The Desire Z is the one I have that replaced the N97. Initially, I did have difficulties using it. I can understand the issue of the top row being close to the screen. At least for me, it took some time to get used to and adjust my technique. It took me several weeks before I was able to reach a comfortable typing speed on my N97. My typing on the Desire Z is not there yet, but I have made steady improvement over the past two weeks of using it.
The hinge I would say could have been designed better. I think users would prefer a hinge that can remain in place against the force of gravity. Gravity does not cause the N97 keyboard from closing, but it does cause the Desire Z from closing. If I am lying on my back with the phone above me, I have to prop the screen open with my index fingers to prevent gravity from causing it to flip down and close on the keyboard while I use my thumbs to type.
when will this phone be available in asian countries??????
i m waiting for this phone for a long time. the other option available is samsung galaxy s which i liked very much. but i dont want to settle for it. i want to go for desire z.
also is the z hinge very bad?
pls anyone who has bought this phone tell me its price. i hav a budget of 550 to 600 dollars. but not more than that.
pls guys waiting for your reply. pls help me out.
Anonymous, 16 Nov 2010whats the main prblm with the keyboard for u? The top row is to close to the lcd? What you... moreYea, the nature of the Z mechanism means that the top row is waaay too close the screen. Serious design flaw that. Also, although the overall feel is solid, I do find the Z hinge to be a little too loose for my tastes.
yotavzki, 18 Nov 2010does it hav a flash supportIt shud have Flash considering the fact that it will come with 2.2 Froyo
Did any of you try multiple phones at once?
Today I compared various Android phones: (among others) HTC Desire, Desire Z, Samsung Galaxy S, SE Experia X10 Mini Pro and Nokia C3, C6, N8, E71, E72, BlackBerry Torch, 9700, 8520, Motorola Droid in search for a decent software and/or hardware keyboard, comparable to the 7 year old BB I use daily.
Conclusion: no such keyboard is available (anymore). The only software keyboard that worked for me (sort of) was in the Desire Z (the hardware keyboard is just as bad as all the others, almost no pressure point, upper key row too close to the screen body). The best hardware keyboard I found on the Blackberry Curve 8520 because of the space between the keys. Second comes Experia X10 Mini Pro, problem only being the upper keys being too close to the screen body.
I also liked the keyboard on the Motorola Droid, but the security thumb reader on the right made it difficult to hold and type at the same time. The keyboard on the Google G1 works best for me. The Droid II will probably come closest to the G1 layout.
And what about Android, Blackberry or Nokia OS? Android and Apple are just the same to me when you consider user experience. The Blackberry is very fast if you only want to use your thumb for browsing (with phone in one hand). BB is much faster than the HTC Android thumb dials. The NOKIA interface looks (and feels) like you are back in the Middle Ages. The N8 software keyboard is very disappointing (and the HDMI output to flatscreen could be better too).
Another nice thing about the Desire Z was the screen. I found it less glaring than that of the Galaxy S. Because of the price of the Desire Z, and the disappointing keyboard, I would not go for this phone right now (although everything else, like the Android 2.2 and the body quality, is TOP)
My advice if you want to go for the best of several worlds, and a hardware keyboard, wait for the Motorola Droid II (with the promise of an excellent keyboard and Android 2.2), or the Nokia E7 if you insist on the Symbian experience but want a decent hardware keyboard and good camera (8 MP is just as good as 12 MP if you don't have optical zoom).
Good luck with your choices!