High Tech, 01 Mar 2010Also another link concerning WM7: http://apcmag.com/microsoft-locks-out-windows-phone-7-cus... moreOk I read the article and I’m thinking…. If Microsoft to this date can’t stop OEM’s from skinning there desktop OS (windows 7). how they really think they will stop the skinning of the Mobile OS by 3ed party software developers?
High Tech, 01 Mar 2010Also another link concerning WM7: http://apcmag.com/microsoft-locks-out-windows-phone-7-cus... moreMy personal opinion that I did not want to give before is. 7 will not be ready for Dec 2010. And by the time it is ready the HD2 will be so old and outdated that it would not matter if it gets the update or not. The spec of this phone is good now but by Jan 2011 it would be considered average and the eye candy made then is what every one will be wanting anyway. I was shore I was going to keep my HD for a minimum of 3years. But when sense UI came out and I saw how nice it was and how slow it was on the HD. I sold the HD after having it for about 11 months. It would not surprise me if a 2Ghz CPU chip came out before the end of the year and AMOLED screens drop in price. Making the HD2 not so hot anymore. What I’ve seen of 7 so far does not impress me enough to want to buy a new phone. But if there is a major hardware announcement that makes the HD2 look like a HTC touch. That would do the trick for me and I will sell my HD2 in a hart beat.
High Tech, 01 Mar 2010Here's the info I was reading about HD2 and WM7:
http://jkontherun.com/2010/03/01/htc-hd2-w... moreAlso another link concerning WM7:
Here's info from a MS official about WM7. Please give me a break. Who wants a standard UI??
"Natasha Kwan, General Manager for Microsoft’s regional mobile communications business, confirmed to APC that interfacelifts such as HTC’s Sense and Samsung’s TouchWiz “will not be permitted” on Windows Phone 7 devices".
“When you have a Windows Phone 7 Series handset from HTC or Samsung or anyone else, the user interface is going to look exactly alike, even down to the level of the soft (QWERTY) keypad – the experience will be exactly the same” Kwan says.
“We used to believe that Microsoft was a platform provider, so we’d provide the OS and then the OEM would innovate around that. But our learning is that the end-users want to have an experience that is consistent. So we are taking a greater ownership (of the platform) and there will be less surface area for other UI designs because the more you have of these, the more you have fragmentation.”
Kwan admitted that the initial reaction from Microsoft’s OEM partners was less than positive. “It wasn’t easy. To be very candid, in the early days when we had that conversation it was tough because were were changing the way we worked with them.”
“But at the end of the day their competition is Apple and their business model is to make money from the hardware. And the more costs you can take away from them, the less they need to spend bringing their phones to market” Kwan explains.
“So our proposition is that if we’re able to take away a lot of the development work and OEMs have less costs to write code, from their standpoint the faster they can bring their phone to market the better. And they can still innovate and give customers a good experience, and that’s all that matters.”
But with Microsoft mandating that OEMs can’t skin the Windows Phone 7 UI – codenamed ‘Metro’, after the intuitive maps and navigation devices employed by subway lines and metro systems around the world – then where does this ‘innovation’ come into play?
Tony Wilkinson, business operations director with Microsoft Australia, told APC that software-based customisations would occur around the ‘live tiles’ on Windows Phone 7’s home screen as well as hubs based around aggregating online services.
“Instead of replacing our UI, OEMs will use aspects of the UI to create their own differentiation. They can create their own live tiles, they can have their own hubs, they can have content.”
From a hardware perspective Wilkinson says that “instead of the innovation being that your screen is higher resolution, you might bring to market a particularly thin or stylish device, or one with a good keyboard, so it’s a higher level of innovation.”
Here's the info I was reading about HD2 and WM7:
Anthony, 01 Mar 2010You should note that the 3 key they talk about
Are (start, back, and search) so there is not... moreThat was me who posted.. I agree that HTC can remap the buttons if they wish. I think it's a money thing. Think about it? I think HTC and Microsoft knew when the HD2 was released that it wouldn't get the update. These companies work hand in hand together. The HD2 sales helped HTC, and not providing a WM7 update helps MS. Who would buy the new WM7 phones if the HD2 was to get the update? I wouldn't.. I know Xda or others will cook up a ROM, but they can be buggie... If the news is true, it would be disappointing to say the least. But not heart broken. I still like the HD2 and what it brings to the table.. I just think they knew when they released the HD2 it wouldn't get the official update, but HTC put in good hardware for developers to make a WM7 ROM for the HD2... I know how companies work together when they release products. My company does the same thing. We know well in advance what products will still work with new released product, and which ones will not.... No company will come out and say "don't buy this because it may not work the next product release".. It's bad for business. The only down side is that you will loose some previous customers that bought the previous released item, who's mad that the new product doesn't work with the previous product.
Anonymous, 01 Mar 2010The reason is lame. HD2 has 5 buttons instead of 3 buttons. My next phone will not be an HTC p... moreYou should note that the 3 key they talk about
Are (start, back, and search) so there is nothing saying a phone can’t have dedicated answer, hang-up and volume keys
If HTC want, they can map search to the home key and the HD2 already have the start and back key.
Anonymous, 01 Mar 2010The reason is lame. HD2 has 5 buttons instead of 3 buttons. My next phone will not be an HTC p... moreInfo given was the minimum spec not the maximum.
Nothing about win mo 7 is set in stone as yet. Take a look at the 2 links below and come back and tell us know what you think after reading it. (I think is still too early in the year to say)
Anonymous, 01 Mar 2010Well looks like the HD2 will not get WM7 update. The reason is lame. HD2 has 5 buttons instead of 3 buttons. My next phone will not be an HTC phone. Will see what other players come out with this year and next.
Well HD2 owners. Looks like the HD2 will not get the WM7 update (see GSM Arena post)... If that's true I'm done with HTC.. My reason for getting the HD2 was possiblly getting WM7.. I will look else where for my new phone if I decide to update my phone. At this point I don't see myself updating to WM7 not time soon. Wm7 UI isn't all that great to me. You cannot customize the UI. I don't want a standard UI for my phones....
Well HD2 owners...LOOKS like the HD2 will not get the WM7 update after all...The reason is LAME (doesn't have the three buttons. HD2 has five buttons)...If this be the case. I'm done with HTC for phones....I will look else where for my next phone, if I update to WM7... Right now I don't see myself updating to WM7 no time soon...........The WM7 UI is not that great to me, and it's not customizable...See link:
vish, 01 Mar 2010ok anybody facing active sync /gmail sync issues .found out the culprit !!!.. google has an ou... morethanks vish, i have been trying since morning to get it working but with your lastest information about it, i think it's about time to quit and go on to try the new miri v4.
ok anybody facing active sync /gmail sync issues .found out the culprit !!!.. google has an outage today..flashed 2 roms unneccessarily because of this !!!
here is the link
phoneaddict, 01 Mar 2010Hello Genius, Is there anybody out there who knows whether there are any free software which ... moreWhat you want is called mms (lest you send text, audio, video, pictures, appointments, files, contact cards) to outer phones that don’t have e-mail but your & there service provider must support the feature for it to work on the phone.
Is there anybody out there who knows whether there are any free software which can send email as sms for HTC HD2 just like in Blackberry. See, I have emails which I need to send out to my colleagues when the are out of office. At this moment, I am using my E90 to send out this email via sms from computer from through Nokia PC suite, which is a copy and paste thing. I hope one of these days the word sms be given a big brother name as "LMS" because I usually send long messages.
I wonder if HTC is interested to develop this kind of software in the email menu button like "send message as SMS"
have just down loaded www.tvcatchup.com via skyfire browser.....excellent shows all freeview channels
great quality just thought I'd pass it on as it works great on HTC HD2 and its FREE!!!
I am looking to stream live scottish football(soccer)UK matches that are not on Sky or ESPN to my HTC HD2 any one know any web sites compatable with windows mobile 6.5??????
Anthony, 01 Mar 2010will look into it when i get home.Hi, Anthony no need to check this sycnh problem as I finaly got it to work thanks to your advice.Apparently when I tried your advise yesterday about unticking all the information types in the setting I didn't do it for the desktop as a whole. Just tried it again and it worked. Sorry for the trouble.
Thanks a million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prem, 01 Mar 2010Anthony I am upgrading from an IPHONE to HTC HD2 and I text message alot and I want to know th... moreKeep in mind that the HD2 is not an upgraded iPhone, it is one of the top end [Windows Mobile phones]. so don’t buy it thinking everything will look and are done the same way as it is done and an iPhone, or you will be in for a very unpleasant shock.
Unlike the iPhone OS, the WinMo OS leaves allot of its settings up to the user to configure to there linking. Because there are so many different phones using the OS there is not way that one setting could fit them all. So it is left up to the user to configure/tweak. And that is what most people either hate or love about WinMo.