Saurav Ghosh, 13 May 2014What phone are you using now?I'm currently using a HTC M8. I'm really happy with it. Only issue is, it's quite heavy for me, I don't like the heavy phones. Its size doesn't really bother me, but I still prefer the size & weight of my previous M7. I think M8 Mini has to release in the second quarter of this year. If it has a 1080p display I will buy it.
Saurav Ghosh, 13 May 2014You made a typo, I said you choose quantity over quality, and I stick with my comment.
For ... moreI consider advanced user as the one who uses the phone much more and explores practically every feature.
Except the smart stay, smart pause and those air crap, I use each and every feature of phone. Pedometer, temp and humidity sensor, group play, s beam, multi window. I take full use of them. I just use each and every feature of a phone. I consider this as an advanced user.
And I didn't make a typo. I also prefer quality over quantity. Just I want a quality camera, screen, audio and features and you want quality Call, vibration and built.
BTW when and at what price are you getting m7?
Techno J, 13 May 2014If I need a fully functional phone, I would rather buy a LG phone. What phone are you using now?
shubham yadav, 13 May 2014You have a very different and simple usage. However my conditions and needs are totally differ... moreYou made a typo, I said you choose quantity over quality, and I stick with my comment.
For your usage pattern S4 is definitely the better phone. However I still don't know the definition of 'advanced' user though.
Samsung or Apple, they were never about quality. The last quality phone Samsung ever released was the S2.
Techno J, 13 May 2014If I need a fully functional phone, I would rather buy a LG phone. LG's ui looks horrible, their phones don't get updates and they pack lcd screens and no microsd cards. So they aren't fully functional after all.
I consider every phone and till now only Samsung phones can satisfy me. That's just my opinion and needs though.
For each his own. M8 is perfect for you. Samsung for me atleast for now. Next time will tell.
temp, 11 May 2014hi mu phone cannot update over wifi, it shows download unsuccessful... You can definitely update your phone through wifi. Download successful means it has been finished the downloading process. Next step is, automatically installing the downloaded file and it will restart your phone.
Nadski29, 12 May 2014Is it possible to change the battery and upgrade to much higher mah or mucht stronger htc batt... moreThis phone hasn't the removable battery option as the Galaxy phones. Obviously you can't remove the battery.
Saurav Ghosh, 13 May 2014Umm, not really sure what you mean about audio quality. Audio quality is great on M7, on par w... moreYou have a very different and simple usage. However my conditions and needs are totally different and I can justify that s4 is still better phone for me.
As you might know, I live in a hostel far from the huge tv of home. So I have just 2 options for watching movies. Laptop and phone. Both are at 1080p. But I prefer dark movies/tv shows on phone in darkness and sleeping in bed. OLED helps a great deal here. I need media on the go and hence loads of storage. So the 32 gb m7 can't work for me. And for the audio quality, the m7 and i9505 come with qualcomm DAC whereas i9500 comes with an advanced wolfson DAC which is better and I'm an audiophile so it's important for me. I've done some tweaks in developer settings and my s4 is now quite fast. Is not on par with m7 though. But I don't care. As I previously said, multi window, group play and s health are must haves for me. Plus the notification area on s4 is useful.
I don't care about battery life and speakers. My laptop will blow m7 out of water. The most important feature is camera for me as I am a college student and don't own a dslr or mirrorless cam. I take a lot of pics. To give an idea, my album since I purchased the phone is 17.8 GB. And the m7's camera is utter crap.
I don't call at all. My 50 INR talktime lasts a month. The calls are just where you are type 10 sec calls and I don't care as the s4 is sufficiently good at it.
That's how I justify my purchase. So stop telling that I prefer quality. I also prefer quality over quantity but I need the phone to be good at what I do. I am a very advanced user and hence expect a lot from my phone.
In the end, to each its own. M7 is good for you and s4 works good for me.
Have a good time with your new phone.
Saurav Ghosh, 13 May 2014I think you have missed that part on my post about build quality. Nexus 5 is a super fragile p... moreNexus 5 is much much faster than m7 though. Yes, m7 was also not on kitkat but m7 hasn't had a performance boost as s4 had. It's almost constant and has the same speed after kitkat. But it(nexus 5) has the poorest and lowest quality speaker on a phone.
But the i9505 is valid though. The i9505 is around 25% slower than i9500 so the videos really don't go justice.
Then m7 it is. Go for it friend. It fits your needs perfectly. Just don't forget to do a review on your impressions on this phone and what are the upgrades/downgrades you felt.
Have a nice day
shubham yadav, 13 May 2014Ohh. Yes that's true to some extent. But with the kitkat update and doing some tweaks
in deve... moreUmm, not really sure what you mean about audio quality. Audio quality is great on M7, on par with S4, I mean with headphones obviously.
And one more HUGE plus of the M7 is the call quality. The top speaker of it provides a brilliant in call experience, S4 or any Samsung phone, or Z2, can't even come anywhere near it!
My main purpose of using this phone is definitely for business, but that doesn't mean I won't use it for multimedia purposes. Yes, I don't watch videos on my mobile screen, find them horrible small, nor I hear music via speakers, but I browse a lot.
To me, I am not seeing this phone as a downgrade from S4 at all! I honestly don't know why I kept purchasing Samsung, maybe it was for the OLED display, God knows!
I never used Smart Stay, Smart Pause, Smart Scroll, practically they never worked! I never used that multi window feature, however I like the idea. I rarely used the the camera! The only feature which I used was the Screen Mirroring, not by a huge extent though. And that later was killed with root after KitKat release. Samsung R&D should be fired right now, they release stuffs first, test it later.
Not a single feature of TouchWiz was polished, nor I used them, don't really get the point. User experience is the only thing I care about, and that was horribly lacking from S4. What CPU it is running, Octa core or dual core was irrelevant, same goes for GPU.
There are two types of need for two types of people, one believe and go with the idea of quantity over quality and the other choose quality over quantity. I definitely belong to the latter category, always did, always will.
shubham yadav, 13 May 2014Regarding videos, s4 has become quite smooth due to the firmware updates and the videos are qu... moreI think you have missed that part on my post about build quality. Nexus 5 is a super fragile phone. Very poorly built!
And as I said, Snpadragon 800, 600, doesn't matter to me, not any more.
Those videos are old. But back at that time the M7 was also not on KitKat!
sam58, 13 May 2014Hi shubham yadav bro!! I need ur help. . I knw its a htc forum bt I wnt to ask u a question re... moreYou should've asked this on i9500 forum.
But you've asked it here. So yes, they'll receive those features which will be compatible. Like ultra power saving mode requires amoled screen, so it will be there. But don't expect the new camera ui or hybrid AF as they are hardware dependent. The new touchwiz will obviously come as soon as we get the update and it will be great as it will clear 3 gb bloat as well as the new touchwiz is much much smoother and fast.
Don't expect all features but all which are compatible will come and the ui will obviously change. That's the only reason why I'm keeping my phone for 1 year more.
The sane thing happened when s4 released and some features were given to s3 along with the ui but not all. That's Samsung's policy.
Have a nice day
Saurav Ghosh, 12 May 2014Lol, no pal, didn't hit any stone. I am going for this after an super extensive search for ... moreYeh, you are correct. Just buy what you feel is right. Brand is doesn't matter, whether it is an Apple, Samsung, HTC, Sony or even OnePlus. I used this phone around 9 months. It's really a great phone.
Hi shubham yadav bro!! I need ur help. . I knw its a htc forum bt I wnt to ask u a question regarding galaxy s4 & galaxy note 3. Well I own a s4 & my friend own a note 3, my question is WILL THE GALAXY S4 & NOTE 3 get a new UI OR TOUCHWIZ features like(extreme power mode) etc being introduced in this year flagship GALAXY S5??? Is is possible shubham bro!! Waiting for your positive response. THANKS!!!
Saurav Ghosh, 12 May 2014Lol, no pal, didn't hit any stone.
I am going for this after an super extensive search for ... moreRegarding videos, s4 has become quite smooth due to the firmware updates and the videos are quite old. Plus those videos have the i9505 which is quite slower than i9500. So they don't do justice. Plus I've used m7 myself and it's not much faster. It's faster no doubt, but not by much after kitkat.
according to your needs, performance and vanilla android, did you look at nexus 5. It's much faster than m7 and the camera is also ok. Plus it'll heat up less than m7 as m7 heats up due to less efficient s600 SoC. The nexus 5 has snapdragon 800 and is a real speed beast. If any phone can match the speed and smoothness of m8 and s5, is nexus 5. You should consider it at least.
Saurav Ghosh, 12 May 2014Lol, no pal, didn't hit any stone.
I am going for this after an super extensive search for ... moreOhh. Yes that's true to some extent. But with the kitkat update and doing some tweaks
in developer options, my s4 has become quite smooth. Actually I exchanged my s4 with a friend's m7 for a week and the experience was kinda bad. The screen is small and not upto the mark and the camera has a purple hue in low light and is practically unusable in most scenarios. Battery life is also slight less and ui Has just too less options. I missed the notification bar too much. Audio quality was not on par with s4 as the adapt sound is much better than that beats audio.
The one had quite good advantages though. It doesn't lag in system apps and it's fast. The speakers are great for calls and casual use and the design, absolutely great. I fell in love with it.
I use all of the features like multi window, group play and s health and simply can't leave them. Additionally, the bloat in touchwiz is quite less in the new touchwiz(s5) and I'll get an update soon. The s5 is as smooth as an m8 just the animations are slower which can be fastened in dev options.
Ohh, and that great cpu opens apps faster, does video decoding much better and captures 120 fps 720p video and can play that at any speed. The octa core heats up but provides an awful amount of RAW power that opens and plays non system apps faster. Touchwiz can only make system apps slower but the downloaded apps will be faster on s4 due to cortex a15.
You are completely right,
To each is own. HTC is not for me. I use my smartphone much for multimedia and you for your business. So we both have completely different needs and hence need different phones. I need a seriously powerful ui and touchwiz is the only one that offers such power like the floating video player, brightness slider in notifications and these small features make my life really easy.
Moto x is just fast and these features take a great hit on battery life. Plus a 720p screen and selling it at a high price are not very great decisions by Moto.
You have made a right decision. Have a good time. Don't mind sharing your experience once you get it.
Have a nice day
[deleted post]Lol, no pal, didn't hit any stone.
I am going for this after an super extensive search for four days, and I was literally shocked to see how could a device like Moto X, which is just 370 USD could outperform a top line flagship like S4, M7, G2 etc. That was just the most surprising thing I have ever seen. So that was the turning point for me. I kept defending Samsung and their TouchWiz for too long, but they do know how to frak up a device with their insanely heavy and bloated TouchWiz. I hated Android because of lags, but I simply had no idea that it lags because of TouchWiz. Sense isn't perfect either, it definitely is worse than Vanilla Android pure experience, but in comparison with TW, well YouTube has plenty videos comparing S4 and M7, kindly see those.
I was going for Moto X to be honest. That is one beautiful piece of idea. Active notification, WOW. A compact and beautiful design, so easy to hold and all, but it let me down with it's really bad camera, 720p display and no root for KitKat yet. So I went for M7. Cause M8 is way too big for me. I need a phone which I will be able to use with one hand comfortably. Also I wanted a sturdy built phone, which M7 is, I don't think there is any other phone other than M8 which could come even close to these. Build quality is a huge thing for me, I don't baby my phones. I needed a strong vibrating device. It seems by reviews M7 is just that. I don't care what specs it have, what's the point of having an octa, or double octa core CPU if it can't perform fluidly? At least it doesn't make any sense to me, nor it will in future. To me the only 'downgrade' happened in the camera section from S4 to M7, that won't have any impact on me as I take around ten photos in a month, sometimes not even that.
To each his own. To me, I am done with features. Performance is the main thing, always was for me, I just didn't know what I was missing! Thanks to the S4 for giving me horrible experience so that I did some research further. Jeez Samsung, focus on Tizen will ya? Android isn't your cup of tea, at all.
I will use the M7 for around six to seven months, then I will check the newer version of Moto X whatever it will be called, whatever it is, it will be a pure Android phone for me.
Other than the size of M8, the ongoing topics about the build quality concern and cheap lens drove me off from it, also on reddit people said M8 has lower vibration intensity than M7! Also I valued the money, paying 80% extra than what I got for S4 to upgrade to M8 was just ridiculous for me.
The above are all my view. I did take a hit on my head, but not with any stone, with some practicality ;) Thanks to all the great reviewers of YouTube.
Anyone can buy anything. If you like S5 go buy it, if someone else like M8 go buy it, heck buy even iPhone if you want, I certainly don't care any more.
[deleted post]Dont like the M8 design, the One have a way better design, for my opinion.