Techno J., 07 May 2014I'm cleaning the cam lens of the M8 with microfiber cloth. You can find them in any phone, com... moreHi techno j. That wasn't just the smudge. He also reported scratches and says that the lens quality is even worse than a simple cheap mirror. Can you confirm it.
One more question. How often do you need to clean the lens. As I haven't cleaned lens on my s4 for almost an year and it is clean even now.
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Saurav Ghosh, 07 May 2014Guys this seems like a serious issue! Can any user confirm this here? Seems like a deal breake... moreI'm cleaning the cam lens of the M8 with microfiber cloth. You can find them in any phone, computer or even camera stores. I haven't faced any problem yet. Just clean the lens putting two water drops on to the microfiber cloth and wipe it very smoothly. I think that guy doesn't know how to clean a lens. Last year when I was using the M7 it just fell down facing the cam lens. I was really scared, luckily it doesn't damage the lens.
If I talk about the camera quality it's overall fine to me and it's not that much bad as people say. I acknowledge that the camera of the last year M7 is not quite perfect because it's their first time introduced such a "Ultrapix" technology. However, HTC has improved the camera performances of the M8 by a significant margin. Anyway, HTC can't stand with their lower megapixel camera anymore because most people believe higher mp means better quality. I hope HTC will include at least 8 mp in their next flagship phone. I'm not a huge fan of phone cameras, I'm using the Lumix ZS35 for advanced photography. Sometimes the M8 low-light performances are better than my Lumix camera. Overall I can recommend the M8 has a good camera.
* If you crop or editing images I don't recommend the M8. Rather buy a Lumia phone.
You can find a answers for all your questions after seeing this review and don't forget to see the video review at the end.
If you need to look at the sample pictures taken from the M8, visit to this link.
Sometimes this link doesn't go directly to the M8 album then click the "gavinfabl100's photostream" and select the M8 which in the album. You can also look at the camera samples of the Galaxy S5 if you wish.
Saurav Ghosh, 07 May 2014Guys this seems like a serious issue! Can any user confirm this here? Seems like a deal breake... moreHey, thanks for the information. Will definitely look into it before purchasing the phone. The camera is the second most important thing for me after the screen. First, I was already sceptical about how I'll live with that 4 MP camera. On top of that, if this is true then it's a true deal breaker.
I haven't sold my phone and want a premium phone this time. I think I'll wait till the rumoured s5 prime or galaxy f shows up if this issue is true.
On a side note, you really got a great price for your old phone. I think you should've kept it till purchasing a new phone. Anyways, it's amazing to see that a simple cover solves so many issues.
About crazy mind. You're damn right. Last year I was sure if getting m7 till the last day but when I reached the store and used both of them, the amoled took me over. Plus I came to know that more than half units of m7 have purple hue problem including the piece there in the store.
Why htc messes this bad with the cameras every year. Also I don't have an SLR or mirrorless.
CAN ANYONE ON THIS FORUM CONFIRM THE SMUDGING OF CAMERA LENS OF M8?
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Guys this seems like a serious issue! Can any user confirm this here? Seems like a deal breaker for me!
Htc one m8 has got the best touch reponse time which is 46 ms xperia z2 and galaxy s5 dont even stand a chance against it. The stsndby time is also better on the. M8 please do a google search for the touch response of all the flagships of 2014 as it does matter.
Techno J., 06 May 2014I think you have read so many reviews, but I didn't read any single review. I just purchased t... moreTrue.
Reviews are meant for some stuffs, like how is the picture quality of the camera sensor, how bright the display is, how loud are the speakers, and all those technical stuffs, but what it can't tell you is the personal attachment. What you feel, that can never be mentioned / stated in any review, and that is the BIGGEST thing while making a purchase.
shubham yadav, 06 May 2014Saurav, I was trying to compare s5 exynos with m8. There is no version of exynos m8. Just exyn... moreHmm, maybe I will give S5 a look then. But I can see I am getting the M8, even if it's just for the materials used, or the design they made, especially the backside, the elegance of it. People think iPhone has a great build quality and design, undoubtedly they have never seen or touched any hTC before! Hardware specs matter, but for me to very limited extent, on my S4 all I played was some Angry Birds and Flappy Bird. I think even Lumia 520 could handle them :p
About Z2, I totally agree with you on the design, I mean the bezels are so so huge! The phone indeed is big, and I don't like the use of glass at back side, I saw my friend's Z1 yesterday, which he has been using for past seven months, and after looking at that glass back cover, I was like WTF! It's like he has had sex with it everyday for past seven months :p Absolutely not my thing. But some things are good in Z2 as I said, the camera and an extra one gig of RAM. Also I am an admirer of Sony, but that shouldn't impact my buying decision as it'd be very biased.
About the vibration, lol, I am glad to know you found the reason, I found the solution just last week before selling my S4. Accidentally my handkerchief and S4 was in same pocket and someone called me and I could feel the vibration for the first time since I bought it, as you said, the phone is sleek, so when it vibrates it doesn't touch the skin, that's why I was not able to feel it. That handkerchief and phone combo worked very well actually, maybe thick phones are indeed better.
Let's see what I do. It's M8 so far, but maybe my crazy mind will change the decision at last moment.
PS : Good to know you are from IIT, I am, or rather was, from IIPM, Kolkata.
Techno J., 06 May 2014I think you have read so many reviews, but I didn't read any single review. I just purchased t... moreYes the dot view case is nice. But it won't be very useful as the screen is LCD and hence the unused pixels won't turn off and it will consume much more battery.
I also forgot some features if s5. One is the ultra power saving mode in which display switches to grayscale and being amoled it saves a lot of battery. Also I forgot to mention the battery is removable and lasts slightly longer.
There is a s view case for all Samsung flagships and that works better as the whole screen except the hole is turned off as the screen is amoled and individual pixels can be turned off. This saves a lot of battery. Actually I'm using it for an year and is great. You can handle calls and alarms without opening the cover. A feature which isn't available with the dot view cover.
I wish there was a phone with s5's display and camera and htc's body and speakers. The ui as functional as touchwiz and as fast as sense.
Both are great devices. I really have a hard time deciding.
Anyways, have a nice day. I'm still confused
Techno J., 06 May 2014I think you have read so many reviews, but I didn't read any single review. I just purchased t... moreCompletely agree with you. But have you read gsmarena's comparison between s5 and one m8. It's really practical. Yes I've seen a many reviews but I believe in only 1 site and they are gsmarena. Their reviews are honest and they have factual and real results to back up their claim as that's the only thing that can't be fooled. If a phone has great contrast and sunlight legibility that's a good display.
All the points I declared are true and I have proofs to back them up. Please elaborate any of mine points you feel wrong. I am ready to discuss. And only reviews can help in some specific comparisons like how can you compare sunlight legibility, battery life or camera quality in a showroom.
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shubham yadav, 06 May 2014Saurav, I was trying to compare s5 exynos with m8. There is no version of exynos m8. Just exyn... morethanks for ur reveiw..but i still go for HTC M8 great design which even plastic sammmy cant have ...sound n camera quality is awesome !!
Saurav Ghosh, 06 May 2014Hey Subham, no I have not tried the M8. I went to my local store to try it, but it wasn't avai... moreSaurav, I was trying to compare s5 exynos with m8. There is no version of exynos m8. Just exynos s5. I will not buy the z2 at any cost. First, the bezels are too big and the phone too huge. It also isn't comfortable in hand. Plus I am tired if fixing the overheating. It took me 1 month to overcome the heating if 4.4.2 and now I have come up a way to stop this problem. I also solved your vibration problem.
Actually it's my vacation time and I am truly free all day. So I decided to ditch my s view cover after 1 year. And suddenly my vibration intensity dropped and heating took an upsurge. I went to find the reason and then I noticed that the solution is in the design. The s4 without any cover us too slim to stop heat and vibrate. The s view cover added a layer of air between the back cover and internals which almost eliminated heat reaching your hand as well as provided a resonating column that amplified vibration. Also a bigger and heavier device will have better vibration. Anyways it doesn't matter to you now.
Now the z2 us simply huge, I don't like glass as it's difficult to hold and slippery and gets smudgy. It overheats much more than s4. So its out of question. Plus the screen is even worse compared to m8.
My phone frequently falls. So if I get m8, I'll quickly put a cover on it and it makes the beautiful design useless. Plus I live in IIT BOMBAY and hence I have great wifi speeds ranging upto 500 mbps. So the wifi mimo will give me 2 times the speeds and the s5 has it. And I would love fingerprint scanner and Samsung ui.
Reasons for me considering s5 exynos:
Camera ( just no comparison)
Screen quality. It matters a lot to me.
Wifi mimo. 2 wifi recievers. 2x the speed
Fastest RAM on the planet: s5 has 933 MHz ddr3 ram vs the ddr2 ram in m8. The m8 is the only flagship with ddr2 ram. Even the s4 has ddr3 ram.
Full UHS-I read speeds: The exynos s5 is the only phone with exynos s4 that supports full class 10 ultra full read and write speeds. It reads and writes at upto 70 MB/s. A great feature if you use high quality sd cards.
USB 3.0 .
Waterproof and dustproof: not very useful but may survive an accident.
Fingerprint scanner: its cool.
Touchwiz: touchwiz on s5 is great. The s health is even better and now it looks good too.
The design. It makes me mad. Just beautiful. Don't purchase the grey version.
The speakers. Sometimes I need to hear songs with my friends and may come in handy.
I am an audiophile and have dedicated skullcandy earphones. The m8 are better even with earphones on.
The ui is fast and clean and the phone works very fast.
The GPU. It has adreno 330 which is 10 -15 % better than mali T628 in s5 exynos. I don't play games much but will prefer a better GPU.
That was all my viewpoint. I would suggest to have a look at s5 as it is really good and doesnt feel like the plastic you're stuck for 5 years. It has a different feel.
For the z2 I won't recommend it as generally sony phones work and perform less than the sum of their parts.
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shubham yadav, 06 May 2014See mr. Techno j. . Do you know the reason I asked saurav ghosh. Because we both own an i9500 ... moreI think you have read so many reviews, but I didn't read any single review. I just purchased the M8 just hand on experience. Hand on experience is more important than the reading thousands of reviews. I don't trust reviews at all. I felt some of your conclusions are really ridiculous, because I have tested both of them and I know how they are performing in the real-life scenario. I could have give you a detail review including all the hefty technical specifications, but they don't really important. As customers, at the end of the day we all concern just the real-life performances.
Anyway, I can't force you to buy the M8, just buy what you feel is right.
Oops, I forgot to mention on more cool feature of the M8, that is dot view case.
Have a nice day.
what does HTC expect if they can't update flagship devices like HOX & HOX+ with 4.4 sense 6 etc people will b happy buying devices of HTC I regret buying HOX+ should have gone with Sony or Samsung .HTC better think whether want more customers or wanna go in loss by ignoring old customers.Good luck with it HTC.Who won't think of buying HTC again eva in their life
shubham yadav, 06 May 2014Hi saurav ghosh, I've reconsidered my budget and I think I can purchase a phone. The obvious c... moreHey Subham, no I have not tried the M8. I went to my local store to try it, but it wasn't available. However I have sold the S4, got 23.5k for it, and now I have around 16-17k spare, so I will have to wait till it's price comes down to 40k or nearer.
Now what do you mean by Exynos M8? Won't the Indian versions have the Snapdragon 800 or Krait Quad Core? I am done with Exynos! I don't think there is any Exynos version of M8, or maybe I am wrong!
About the confusion between Z2 and M8, I am leaning towards M8 more, cause the few advantages of Z2 will be the camera, which I don't need that much and the water resistant stuffs, I don't need this at all! And extra 1GB RAM, now anyone would love it have this. On the other hand M8 has WAY better build quality, better build materials, I prefer Aluminium over Glass any day, better speakers ( which I personally don't need, but we live in a country where people is everywhere, so it might come useful ;) ) So it's the feel of M8 why I love it. The bad thing about Z2 is it's looks, how on earth Sony provided those huge bezels God knows! Now if they did something with the build quality of Z2 then I might consider it, cause Z1 was horrible. I was shocked after seeing the drop test video of Z1 by Android Authority.
About S4 vs M8 : The first thing you will notice the display, I mean LCD displays just can NOT match the contrast ratio, or deep blacks of OLED panels. However as I have started calibrating my monitor (IPS) and TV (VA) I have got used with calibrated and accurate colours. So I won't miss S4's or S5's over-saturated colours any more.
S5 : I don't know, but I will not consider this. First because of Plastic. It's been almost five years I have stuck with them, and now I definitely need something more premium. Then comes the build quality, yes, Samsung has stepped up a lot about it's build quality, coming from S4 it's way better, still not better than M8. However it has better camera needless to say.
So back to M8 vs Z2 confusion. Uff God, what a tough decision to take and make. Do let me know what you will do.
Techno J., 06 May 2014I have been using the M8 since two weeks and I'm extremely satisfy with it.
Advantages Of ... moreAlso I forgot to mention that the dual it the true tone Flash of m8 doesnt provide accurate white balance by reading from numerous reviews. But neither the s5's single flash does it. The s4 had the brightest Flash and is better than both of these. And by the gid and technical night time comparisons. The s5 can capture better low light shots due to the new isocell camera, better image processing and the perfect exposure. The htc one sometimes lets too much light in and that ruins the contrast and sometimes the image.
Also the s5 has better 1080p videos than m8 by a huge margin as they are taken by downscaling more and have much more details.
Just read the comparison by gsm arena for proofs of the above claims.
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Techno J., 06 May 2014I have been using the M8 since two weeks and I'm extremely satisfy with it.
Advantages Of ... moreSee mr. Techno j. . Do you know the reason I asked saurav ghosh. Because we both own an i9500 s4. And I trust his personal opinion. The reasons you gave are already known to me as I have read countless comparison reviews between these 2. Actually, I can build up a bigger list than yours. You forgot the wifi mimo in s5. Plus the display mode settings and the more functional ui touchwiz.
See touchwiz lags. But it had much more to do with everything. There are just too many features, tweaks and shortcuts. Once you get a hang of it, you feel right at home. And even my s4 at 4.4 doesn't lag now. So if s5 does lag, it'll be fixed by update. Plus I use the s health, group play and multi window and damn those are really good. That makes me love laggy touchwiz more than the snappy sense.
That's why I asked saurav ghosh. I know him already and he lives in India. So if he can compare s5 exynos with m8 I can decide better.
Now if you allow me. The list of pros and cons according to me
M8 is better because:
Dual frontal stereo speakers
Better audio even in headphones due to optimization.
Fast implementation of the 3d effects due to dual camera
Better night time shots if you have shaky hands.
S5 is better because:
Much better display in all conditions and by all perspectives. Can have a much bigger colour gamut and display colours lcds can only dream of, deep blacks, more sunlight legibility, can choose preference of colors, the display also can be super dim upto 8 nous
Powerful processor: even .2 ghz is faster. And the exynos s5 has a 25% more powerful cpu and 966 mhz RAM.
Much better camera. You can say whatever you want but the details can't be matched by HTC one. it has bigger and better sensor and 4 times resolution. Even in night time there is a night mode option that produces great results for steady hands.
Wifi mimo. 2 wifi reciewers means 2x the speed.
More ergonomical design.
Water resistant and dustproof
Has a more functional ui
Has plethora of features such as s health, multi window, download booster, group play etc.
Has a fingerprint scanner.
So as I said. I can also generate a list. I wanted hands on experience from a person who has used the same phone as me. And that's why I asked him.
On a personal note, last year I did plenty of research and chose s4 over m7. And I am really happy about the decision. And when I see s5 is much better than s4 whereas m8 is almost the same as m7 except the chipset difference.
Anyways, thanks for your try to help.
ZOYA, 06 May 2014Htc M8 speaker is better or sony E1? Which one is loud?Zoya I am using both htc one max and xperia c1.sound quality is htc better than e1 htc has boom sound and stero speaker. Its more clearand crisp sound than e1.htc max sound rating is 10/10 and e1 is 8/10.htc m8 is little better sound quality than htc one max.