Saed102, 01 Jan 2009the Arabic support for HD is already available please visit HTC support link below http://... moreThanx Saed, but unfortunately received same result ..."Not there" as follows: "Oh no! 404 - Page not foundYou have reached this page either because 1) The page requested no longer exists, or 2) We may have been uploading a new version of the requested page as you tried to access it. Please use the "back" button on your browser and try again. We apologize for any inconvenience. "
ccbokiller, 01 Jan 2009well i would said that HD is the best phone atm. big functioning screen, thx to it's fast proc... moreHow is the camera in the dark? Because there is no flash on the phone. Are the pictures sharp in the dark? I want to buy one but i don't know the quallity of the camera.
well i would said that HD is the best phone atm. big functioning screen, thx to it's fast processor multi tasking is now fast and fun. i love the way u can watch youtube on this great phone.the camera is great in night or day time. have 1 in your hand and u will know:)
I will give my oppinion about this iphone phenomina:
If you use an Iphone for over a long period it is not just addictive but also will render you very LAZY,yes lazy with its so simple and affective users Interface,every thing is so simple,no hidden files no nothing,just push the icon et voila..its abslutely no brainer for me,so after a long period of using it, WM could very easily become an Interface from another planet,specially for people of common middle aged like myself.
But yet again,as it was mentioned somewhere else here in this forum,I am still waiting for a device to be "born",with Iphone UI and WM applications.
And, no, Iphone doesnt support File Manager nor Street View GPS,besides not supporting,Java,Flash Player,Midp,Copy&Paste,Push email,Download On browser and so on,but it may if you can wait for FW update No.999 ,feel free to add couple of Zeroes if you wish so
Im afraid the applications at the Appstore are too many of the same duplications ,nothing to my needed essantials.
the point is that it's individual.
I won't go buy an iPhone just because it's considered to have better hardware while it has an OS i can't/don't want to - work with.
the iPhone gives you a "work ready" OS for people who don't wanna mess around with their devices while WM devices give you a acceptable os but you can do 9000 times more with it if you decide to put in some effort.
or take size for instance. i have a polaris, let's assume i don't want something bigger. is there an iPhone in another size?
take tech-support. the tech support in israel (for instance), for apple's hardware is hardly existant while HTC's devices are supported thoroughly.
to make this short - all i'm saying is that the fact that you see the iPhone as a better device doesn't mean it fits everyone.
2.1 software (jailbroken), when you press the button for say SMS, there is about a 2 sec delay while it loads up, now on the HD, its about the same, but on the HD if you leave messaging running in the background (which I suspect you can do with these better memory equipped models?) it is instant, with the iPhone you always get the delay cos nothing (well except the music player) is allowed to stay in background.
New UK HD Owner Views (from an iPhone owner :-) LONG MESSAGE
I have had my 3G iphone for about 6-7 months now, and have in that time tried several new phones, namely Nokia E71, Diamond (horrible), X1 (lasted less than 1 day!) and I also own a Trinity.
Anyway, the HD arrived via www.devicewire.co.uk in the UK (doh) on Thursday last week, and I powered it up right away. It was £522 delivered.
I think in the UK, people are better off ordering online, since you have the 7 day DSR (Distance Sellings Regs) to fall back on in the event of dislike, dead pixels etc.
With the HD, I am surprised how much I like it..........put it this way, it came Thursday, and Friday it was a case of "yes, this is good, but nothing much better than the iPhone, so I can not justify the cost, so back it goes".....read on for what happened next :-)
I even have the return code from devicewire (very good aftersales, even when you are returning stuff!!)
I can not say the HD screen blew me away, since the screen on the iPhone is a truly, truly lovely screen anyway, and I had been using this everyday for the aforemention 6-7 months.....but, for anyone who has not been using an iPhone, the screen is gonna make you do a double take. It is clear, big, bright and the fonts look amazing.
First thing I did was switch off the ambient sensor (yes, it does have one!), and put brightness up to full, I love contrast as my eyesight is not so good these days.
Now, this is why the iPhone has been so good for me, (although I guess most of you lot here will be younger with perfect vision), I find it has good large fonts, and great contrast.
Compare this to the default text size on the Diamond, or indeed the latest Sony X1, its tiny, and yes, I do know you can altertext size, but on a small screen, it just means you get less on a sreen and have to be scrolling all the time.
The HD is just perfect for me, nice big fonts, so smooth, and perfectly usable with either a finger, (even with a glove on, something that is not possible on iPhone), or a stylus, which as it turns the HD on, is handy to have.
So, the screen is as good as the iPhone, with better resolution, and as I just read in the Slashgear review, the actual touching of the two screens is very close indeed. Even coming from several hours use of the iPhone eveyday, I do feel that I will get on with the HD screen very nicely.
But hang on, I am not keeping this am I, I already have the return code and devicewire are expecting it back......well, I doubt it now.......I had put it all away very carefully on Friday, but it sat there looking at me, and I kept reading about it on here........it was all too much, got up this morning and thought "lets take it to work, Sunday is quiet usually, I can have a play".
Well, the breakthrough for me was to turn off Touchflo and install PocketPlus, a great piece of software I have used on many devices. Oh, that and TomTom 6 running in landscape on the trip to work :-)
As for GPS lag, it is only about 10 miles to my workplace, but there is little or no lag present in TomTom 6.
TomTom is a big deal for me, I find nothing touches it, and it is a great disapointment that there is still no TomTom (or anything else!) for the iPhone, when you recall the stories that TomTom already had it running back at the 3G launch, it must be Apple who are blocking its release.....
I think Touchflo is just too "black" for me, not sure if it will run with a brighter skin or not, but I like the way PocketPlus makes a device look, much brighter.
Now, a lot has been written about WM 6.1 being hard to use without D-Pad? The only issue (apart from games which I confess is of zero concern to me) is for selecting little drop down (roll out) menus, and that is sorted with AEBPlus http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php which allows you to assign the volume up and down keys to act as Arrow Up and Arrow Down, and this sorts it and works well.
I can confirm the UK HD comes with the little soft case (its quite nice actually), but a word of warning, do NOT assume all iPhone cases will work, my one, and nice Marware slip case is too tight, and the HD is a smidgen wider that the iPhone. Anyway, I like the softcase. It was also nice to get the 8gb Micro SD card. I have not installed the screen protector yet, can never really get on with those anyway.
Keyboard use on the iPhone is pretty good, and I was very doubtful that HTC could get anywhere near it, but they have basically cracked it IMV. The buttons are the same size as iPhone and easy to use. I am making less mistakes in a few hours than I do after 6 months on iPhone.
Web browsing is not in my opinion as good as the iPhone, well, let me qualify that. If you just use fingers, the iPhone wins, but if you use fingers and the stylus, I think the HD then just shades it.
One very welcome side effect of returning to WM is the multitasking, this is one massive issue for us geeks on the iPhone, combined with the lack of cut n paste, it really shows the two devices quite far apart in usability.
Email is very good on the iPhone, and if you only have the one account (gmail for example) it takes some beating for simplicity. However, the HD also does a great job, and with a little wireless keyboard (impossible on iPhone), I think it will make a good laptop replacement)
RSS is OK on the iPhone, but much easier on the HD, with the built in RSS Hub program, which downloads all feeds, including video feeds. I like to watch Cali Lewis on Geekbrief www.geekbrief.tv everyday, and you have to jailbreak the iPhone to be able to do that (yes, I do know its coming in 2.2 software, but with a limit of 10mb over cellular, which renders it useless for video podcasts, and anyway, its a pain in the arse to upgrade iPhone and then have to jailbreak each time.
We are good at making our decisions fit the case, so the iPhone user is always going to say "oh, I don't really miss cut n paste", when in fact, you quickly forget how often it is useful.
I think for me, it comes down to this, the HTC Touch HD can do everything the iPhone can do and lots more, but the the iPhone can not do several things the HD can do. Does that make sense?
I hope this view (not a review IMHO), helps some of you, and just like the chap in the other thread, please feel free to ask any specific questions about useabilty, although please don't ask me to run x test on y video, using xx program while standing in a bucket of water, as I probably can not be bothered :-)
A couple of program I will miss if I sell the iPhone are TV Plus, a great APP which gives a 7 day EPG and more inportantly, links to Sky Plus (UK only) and lets you setup recordings.
I will also greatly miss Remote, an Apple APP which controls iTunes on my main desktop PC, although I should be getting up off my butt to change charge anyway.
So, who wants to buy an iPhone ;-)
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mg_1973, 31 Dec 2008thanx Tucks, but unfortunately I've contacted HTC support and they responded that Arabic is no... morethe Arabic support for HD is already available
please visit HTC support link below
hey guys do you have flashlite 3.1 in HTC HD and can you open vedio flash in youtube in disktop version ????
RF, 29 Dec 2008I dont know why but all winmo has some common negetive points...like battery,low ringtones....... moreTraditionally WinMo devices get lower marks for battery because of touch screen and the large screen. The bare minimum screen size is 2.6". Vs E71, the Touch HD is unlikley to match the battery longetivity even if used similarly. Anyway, having to charge everyday is not a problem. The good thing about HTC phones is, you can plug it into a PC and it'll charge the phone through USB. So what I usually do is, reach home, switch on PC, plug in my phone and leave it for the night. If having problems during work, just plug it in to my work PC. Also with the Touch HD, you're probably be tempted to watch say videos on the move which further erodes the battery. Anyway, E71 is a great phone. Depends on type of use, you might want to stick with it and wait for smaller touch screen phones. One that matches your usage requirements.
tucks, 31 Dec 2008yeah go to htc.com, i think I've seen arabic support, in the support section!! : )thanx Tucks, but unfortunately I've contacted HTC support and they responded that Arabic is not ready for the HD.I've already purchased the phone but shall wait for the Arabic support... thanx again..
This phone is all about hyped up specs, but unfortunately, it cannot perform well. Iphone is still the best touchscreen phone. The rest are just wannabes =)
Can ne1 plz tell me da exact price of this awesome phone in da asian market(without ne specific distributor), will it come within my 800 USD budget? Thnx a lot 2 whoever helps.
tuck, 31 Dec 2008i agree but no unltimited data packge!!250mb allowance for an extra £7.50 a month. yeah i kinda agree that data thing is a bit annoying considering the phone is so data intensive
Is it worth to buy HTC HD 528 Mhz (expensive) or ASUS 565 with 800 Mhz and (cheaper).
Hope owners describe things like: hanged? Synchronising? Battery life? Voice or sound quality differences?