"Yes you can see the difference between 65k and 16 million. No its not so much in the quality but in the intensity of the image. In other words, a 16 million screen's colour come off more intense and bright than a 65k screen but does not really affect the quality of the image. As in details are still there, colour reproduction, check, clarity, sharpness, check. But if that's not enough to convince people that in 90% of phone usage you will not feel the difference, let me ask a simple question. Do you buy a phone based on the number of colours the screen shows? Or the entire package. Because if 16 million is so important, go get a low end Nokia phone released in the past 2 years then load up all the pictures and movies and admire the 16 million difference all day long. Grow up. Samsung Omnia II is not just the 65k limit of WM6.1 Its the 3.7" AMOLED WVGA 8GB 667/800MHz, 256MB RAM/512 MB ROM package. Stop always finding fault with phones or OS you don't like. If you don't fancy WM then look elsewhere."
And another quote
"I'm hardly an expert regarding image quality and stuff, but I thought that the difference deppends on the screen's resolution, which, the bigger they are, the more you notice a difference.
For instance, the Omnia II being 480x800 pixels, that amounts to 384000, more than 65k, and therefore causing color banding.
Whether you can see it or not, I guess it depends on the screen's physical size, being large enough or not.
From what I've researched, it can be seen quite easily on the Omnia II.
However, I think using a different player (CorePlayer I believe) will bypass WinMo's 65k limit, regarding multimedia. The GUI will remain the same."
"what's all the discussion about 65k?? nobody is able to see any difference between 65k and 16M. The omnia II, despite it's restriction of 65k because of wm OS, is said to produce even better results than most of the 16M devices. And even if there were a (for sure only slight) difference, for "normal" people this hardly can be a match winning point. From all the different and more important specs, the 65k issue is the most discussed here.(?!) By the way, for a nice picture not only colors count, but also luminosity, contrast, resolution etc. After the really nice review of the Omnia II here (thanks), i'm really looking forward to test the device myself."
A quote from a user in the windows 6.5 review section:
"People who haven't used a phone with WVGA resolution to a WinMo device, can NOT imagine how good thiings look with just 65k colours.
I don't want to defend it because I want 16 millions of colours too but you have to see for yourself."
Kilyjah, 08 Sep 2009Thats 16.7m colours.
lol lol lol lol
Windows Mobile is capabile of handling 65k color, that's where other software come and can handle the 16.7m color.
Windows OS = Software (65k)
Coreplayer = Software (16.7m)
Hello Dexter and Anthony.
MY question is does it actually have apps,videos and pics that allow the hd to use 16.7 colours?
Thank you all.
Nick, 07 Sep 2009Let's come back to underlying problem of winmob. It does not support 16m color. Forget about ... moredoes 16m colours help you read text that always look jagid or fuzzy on your iPhone low res screen?
Nick, 07 Sep 2009Let's come back to underlying problem of winmob. It does not support 16m color. Forget about ... morehow many of the 16m colours do you see in the out of focus, low res pictures the iPhone takes?
Nick, 07 Sep 2009Let's come back to underlying problem of winmob. It does not support 16m color. Forget about ... moreFollow up...
How many of those 16m colours keep the Iphone 3gs from bringing up the overheating warning?
And apple has the audacity to tell you don’t talk on the phone to long in the sun. It is a phone, it was made for talking. And with 16m colours you want to be in the park on a sunny day talking and watching a movie.. lololol
Nick, 07 Sep 2009Let's come back to underlying problem of winmob. It does not support 16m color. Forget about ... moreWon’t these your words? “Anyway, you guys must be tired of me by now. Truth hurts! I know this place does not belong to me. I will be back once I have tegra based winmob……god knows when. Till then Goodbye. Enjoy tweaking & resetting!”
So what are you doing here again?
You are just like the Iphone you use. Promise the world and do keep your word.
All you have to do now to be a perfect match is to blame someone for why you not doing what you said you would do. Just like your iphone want to blame AT&T for why its mms not working. I know the other phones that AT&T has, has working mms.
You talk about underlying problem of 16m colours. How many of those colours do you use to get clean audio when in a call? It is a phone after all. And how many of those colours help you send a ringtone or picture to a next cell phone when there is no PC around? It is a cell phone after all. Or maybe it’s just a high end Ipod touch.
Nick, 07 Sep 2009Let's come back to underlying problem of winmob. It does not support 16m color. Forget about ... moreWe live in a world where technology adapts to the user not the other way around. An Iphone user could not make their phone look like any other phone even if they wanted to. The phone is that dumb.
And people call just about anything an iphone killer because just about anything can kill an iphone.
Can you send and mms from your iphone as yet? Lol come back when your iphone catches up with the rest of the cell phone world.
Anthony, 07 Sep 2009\Windows\StartUp\SpbMobileShell.lnk
thats the path of the file you have to remove. you can ju... moreThanks Anthony. It worked
As you advised, I cut it and pasted it on the memory card
Saed102, 07 Sep 2009Anthony:
I couldn't find the SPB link in the explorer
Please explain which folder\Windows\StartUp\SpbMobileShell.lnk
thats the path of the file you have to remove. you can just cut and past it to the memory card if you don't want to delete it.
Saffy, 07 Sep 2009Anthony, thank you so much for all your info. I will have a go with this phone again. With r... moreas I said before, you can't use ".mp3" you have to use ".wav" so you may have to do a file conversion and don't store it in any folder. just the main part of the phone or main part of the memory card.
Anthony, 07 Sep 2009to use your audio files just save them in .wav format out of any sub folders and it will show ... moreAnthony, thank you so much for all your info. I will have a go with this phone again.
With regards to the sounds and notifications... yes, I know where that is and I have my personal tunes in the incoming calls, but they don't show up anywhere else, i.e. alarm settings or receiving text messages. I've been to the Orange shop before in the hope that they would be able to help, but none of them had a clue.
Thanks again for your help.
I have just bought HD on Saturday. Think it`s great phone. Downloaded Google Maps. But where is the voice guidance ? Can someone help me and explain how to became GPS navigation with it? I`m ordinary bussines user. Thanks in forward.
Anthony, 06 Sep 2009Yes you can switch between SPB Mobile shell 3.0 and HTC touchflo. touchflo runs from the today... moreAnthony:
I couldn't find the SPB link in the explorer
Please explain which folder
Saffi, 07 Sep 2009I've had my HTC since June and have gone back using my SPV E650. I am finding it very difficul... moreto use your audio files just save them in .wav format out of any sub folders and it will show in the list of preset sounds. I hope you know where notifications sounds are set on the phone.