To Li Tan,
Mm.. ok, but if you do compare the video recording and camera feature with DV2, think DV2 will sure win over A20.
But again, my advice, don't go for a phone that can't really provide you a good "phone" feature but provide you a good multimedia feature as eventually you still need to use this device as a phone, right? ;)
Just let us posted if you have any extra information regaring this DV2 thingy lah. NO worries.
Yup! Checked up DV2. My comments:
1. If u concentrate on the video and camera feature, u will not be dissapointed.
2. If u concentarte on the phone feature, it SUX!
3. The SMS has T9 feature but not predictive - meaning, it doesn't think ahead and suggest words, rather display a series of words (like SE) for you to choose.
4. The audio quality is really crappy, quite loud but crappy.
5. The response is quite slow about 1/4 sec.
6. The GUI/interface is very lousy - just like Samsung old phones.
7. Though it brags abt. 16.1 million colors, yet Xcute does not fully utilize it making the phone look like 262k colors only.
8. For malaysia, there might be a "scam" because the phone cost RM16XX and that's it - no addtional battery, no USB to TV out cable, no memory card - u need to purchase separately.
9. Abt. the battery and becuase of so many features, the battery is good for only 2 days :-(
10. Overall 6/10 :-) - not too impressive, but will still consider.
Inno A20 will be available in Greece on December under the name of Emblaze not Innostream.
well, Viper, I am still considering A20 :-) Abt DV2, I will be checking out :-) The SMS T9 shld be a std, everything canggih abt. the DV2 except the SMS - a bit strange :-) Anyway, fyi, the DV2 they worked on a camera basis and turned into a phone. Hence, they emphasis more on the camera feature :-)
Hi Li Tan,
No lah, where dare to do it here right? :p Just that for me still get use to SE menu and feature I guess.
Oh ya, I did try on the DV2 at Time Square. There also show the printed photo shoot by the 6M camera provided by DV2, quite nice compare to the rest. I didn't look at the video quality, think might be the best in the market based on the spec. When I hold this DV2, it is kind of like holding A20 also, nice in the build quality.
Oh ya, I don't know where I read the review from, about this DV2, the sms is still using the basic feature, which there isn't any T9 in sms typing. Anyone can confirm on this?
Well.. since I just change to K750i, then think I will not focus much on DV2 lah. :)
Viper, promoting SE now ka? :-) hehe. Yup, true, not many ppl go for Innostream. It's just that user are sick of nokia and would like to try other phones that offers users' customization :=)
I read DV1 review and the customization are there. If u visit their website: www.xcutemobile.com their aim is all abt customization :-)
Anyway, guys, check out DV2 at 1 UTAMA :-) See u. :-?
BTW, I am not promoting DV2 - it's news :-)
To Li Tan,
Ha haha.. Well.. at the beginning, I am lor and actually I still like the A20 because of it build quality and I can tell everyone that by far beside Xcute DV2, this phone has the best video recording. ; )
I already trade in my A20 with a SE k750i. Guess I'm still get use to the Sony Ericsson brand which is fast in speed. :)
Well.. yes you still can but might only trade in with a very very low price. Or you can try to sell it online example post it to http://www.lowyat.net/v2/ and wait for a potential buyer to approach you. This way, you might able to get a better price than trade in.
Yes, most of the seller don't really like to take it as not many people looking for this brand. I won't want to say this brand is bad cause after using it for 2 weeks, this brand is not bad, just not up to my standard. I have already trade in my A20 last 2 weeks with only RM1k which I brough with RM1499. :(
I think until today, the price should drop until RM14xx or it may already drop down to the low mark of RM1399.
You may try to prove it yourself how wide "acceptance" of InnoStream by going to different shops at different places which I can tell you is that no that many places sell InnoStream phone. ;)
NET, I found 2 shops in SS2, PJ, same row as where they hang the big roasted duck - selling A20 at RM1460 :-)
Aiyoyoyo! Viper, why sell lar? You have been so hype up on the A20. Seel it to NET :-)
So, Viper, which is your next phone, Xcute DV2? :-)
To all, if you go for style - Korean phones are good, if u go for quality - better buy Nokia, SE, Alcatel and Motorola - they are the RF expert :-)
hi viper, thanks for your information. Is that mean that i got no change to trade-in my phone? Is there any other way? Thant's mean the phone seller don't accept Inno phone is because no demand? You going to sell your A20? But from this opinion page there is alots of suporter what? just now i call to southhall they sell A20 for about RM1688, but i saw some people said is under RM15xx?
To those who is planning to switch from other brand to InnoStream, just to be prepared for the trade in issue.
Yes, after having my A20 for 2 weeks, I decided to trade it off because of the 2 reasons:
1. Slow respond on sms, cause me is not those patient person. :p
2. Not very clear reception in some points but not all the time if compare to my SE k700i previously at the same location and same time.
For those who plan to own any InnoStream phone, just be ready that you will have a HARD time to trade off when buying a new phone from the shop. During my trade off period with most of the shops at Sungai Wang and Lau Yat Plaza, I hardly trade it off with a price higher than RM1k and some shop don't even want to accept it as very few people looking for it. Unless you are selling it on the net, then it might be a different story as I didn't try it. ;)
From most of the shop seller, I also getting this information from them that if you are going to buy InnoStream, just use it and "trade in" should not be in consideration at all in your mind.
actually i'm not a A20 user, but i'm holding INNO 50. I wish to change to A20 but the problem i'm facing is how can i let go my INNO 50? I have called to a few handphone shops and also inno dealer shop asking for trade-in but they reject....so can anyone give suggestion? I have ready all the opinion and found somebody said INNO phone is rubbish...??? To the user, is A20 ready good? I'm worried coz my INNO 50 sometime got problems, such as the sms i will received 24 hours later...and when i want to type sms, the keypad sometime no founction and have to press very harder...
Hi MIT or anyone who owns INNO A20 here, I have one of you. I have a problem that I need your help. I accidentally deleted the default 2 mflash files, I love one of them very much, you think you guys can mms it to me? i can be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org
Thks bao & mit. You can check out DV2 at 1 Utama starting from 28 Sept. Well, I will be checking it out this weekend :-)
Yes, the 16 million colors is superb :-)
I read the review on DV1 and they commented fairly good. Diff b/w DV1 and DV2 is 3MP and 6MP and DV2 shld have better f/w & GUI :-)
On DV2 u can even take pics and video and use as your setup menu/icon just like VS2 :-)
it me again, 'touch wood' i so far did not face any problem with my A20, it just nice, and i did hand-on the DV2 at the handphone counter, the camera mode nice, but i did not test the MP3, because the counter don't have the Mini-SD card, and i did monitor that the MENU is like like....not so nice lah...
But with 6 megapixels is really impress me, but i still having see any of it print out yet..
Hi Li Tan. I haven't noticed any direct problems with the firmware yet, just the speed of sms writing and menu could be faster, and no big letters in the beginning when you type sms. Other than that, I have no complaints.. My girlfriend has the vs2 in pink, and the screen is magnificent! You can really see the difference in the colour, its much more vivid, and the qvga resolution is great too. So in screen department, the dv2 beats the inno a20.
Thks Bao. The DV2 has good quality screen - 16 Million colors, same as Panasonic VS2 :-) WOW! And the screen refresh rate is 30 flips/sec - that's DVD quality.
Yup, I still need to compare the audio quality and will do so this weekend: ROADSHOW!
September 2005 28 - 2nd Oct 5 days One Utama (Outside Studio-R)
October 2005 5 - 9 5 days Mid Valley East Court
October 2005 12 - 16 5 days Kuala Lumpur, Sg Wang Plaza
November 2005 8 - 13 6 days KLCC Concourse
VIper, Boa and MIT - where are the f/w bugs in A20 at the moment that needs f/w upgrade?
I've heard of the xcute dv2 long time ago. If you want a phone with good camera and videorecording, you should go for dv2. If you want a phone with nice design and good buildt quality but slow UI, you should go for A20. I still love my A20 though. The mp3quality of A20 is superior to the dv2, also watching movies with A20 in full screen is nice. Audiowise A20, camerawise dv2.
I do not want to spoil the party, but there is a new phone out there (Malaysia): Xcute DV2
1. 6 MP camera
2. DVD quality camcorder
3. MP3 player
4. Under RM16XX.
Pls. visit www.alphatech.com.my
I think in KLCC, there is a booth. My fren actually saw this and asked me to consider this than INNO-A20 :-)