Why this phone have not the card slot, this is the single minus point of this phone, Only this reason I have change my mood to purchase this product..
AnonD-527985, 05 May 2016I agree, the Fiio X1 becomes obsolete after those Vivo and Oppo phones (they are from the same... moreAn iBasso DX90, custom-molded IEM, and now a modded Bluebird amplifier. You are surely one of those rare stratospheric audiophile's who is not satisfied about sound quality until some mods are performed on his ultra expensive audio jewelry. :)
Now a request. Plz do visit GSMArena on your spare time and post some read worthy posts about audio as 95% of people here use the term "audiophile" way too often without knowing anything about it. :"(
Vivo, Oppo & OnePlus all belong to the BBK Electronics group of China. Believe me none of OnePlus and Oppo phones are audio worthy, as both uses the internal crappy audio codec that comes with every Snapdragon or MediaTek chipsets. Vivo on the other hand is audio centric, you will find use of discrete DACs & op-amps in their X series phones. And yes their audio tuning is also very good, the best I have seen from any smartphone manufacturer.
For your information my Vivo X5Max smartphone uses the same DAC as yours DX90, the holy ESS Sabre ES9018K2M albeit in single ended configuration. As this is a current DAC it uses an ESS Sabre ES9601 op-amp designed for current-to-voltage conversion. Finally a Texas instruments OPA1612 headphone amplifier takes over the amplification job to the 3.5mm audio out jack. The phone has a separate power supplies just for audio hardware, to provide clean ripple free power to those hungry DACs and op-amps and dish out outstanding performance. Vivo calls this their HiFi 2.0 architecture, and in X5Max they were able to attain a measured 120dB SNR, 118dB dynamic range and distortion less than -100dB (< 0.001% THD). After hearing the X5Max over headphones, I now believe audio in smartphones have come a long way.
Finally I admit smartphones still have some journey left when it comes to driving power, especially tough impedance loads. Lots of watts are required to drive multi-armatures earphones. That said just for your reference a Sony Xperia Z3 had a maximum headphone output volume of only -17.5dB where as the X5Max is able to pump out as high as -1.4dB. So the driving power of audio centric smartphones have improved a lot, I can use IEMs with my X5Max which were distant dreams with the Z3.
RishiGuru, 04 May 2016I have found there are currently many smartphones available in the market that can beat many a... moreI agree, the Fiio X1 becomes obsolete after those Vivo and Oppo phones (they are from the same company along with OnePlus) have been released. But the higher-end players like Hifiman and Astell & Kern are just on another level.
My rig consists of an iBasso DX90 connected to a modded Bluebird amp. Nothing high-end but you can hear the difference. A phone can not yet push out enough "power" to run multi-armatures earphones without draining the battery quickly. My DX90 uses a Samsung S3 battery and uses it up in 5 hours. It lasts a bit longer if I shut down its internal amp.
can anyone please confirm does it has a Radio & SD Card slot is expandable ???
AnonD-527985, 04 May 2016Well real audiophiles won't directly line-out from a phone anyway. They either have a PMP (por... moreI have found there are currently many smartphones available in the market that can beat many a well known PMPs and USB-mounted sound card/amp devices, leaving those ultra expensive ones. I for one have given up using my Fiio X3 after owning a Vivo X5Max. Subjectively I have found X5Max have better audio quality than Fiio X1 and as good as X3.
But then you will argue I am not an audiophile, which I am not. I am just a music lover.
RishiGuru, 04 May 2016It is not necessary to remove the 3.5mm audio jack in-order to make a thin phone. The thinnest... moreWell real audiophiles won't directly line-out from a phone anyway. They either have a PMP (portable music player) or a USB-mounted sound card/amp device.
I carry a iBasso if I need good quality music for my custom-molded IEM.
AnonD-506570, 01 May 2016Now that was an education about sound, very formative. Thank you. :)
AnonD-527985, 03 May 2016A USB-C to 3.5mm converter is in-box. Pretty sad that it got rid of the 3.5mm but it is necess... moreIt is not necessary to remove the 3.5mm audio jack in-order to make a thin phone. The thinnest phone in the world Vivo X5Max (China version) came with a 3.5mm jack while having thickness of just 4.7mm. The LeEco Le Max 2 on the other hand is a fat beast at 7.99mm thickness and could have easily come with 3.5mm jack.
It is just a marketing ploy that LeEco wants us to buy their headphones along with their phone. Audiophile communities have already had a big laugh at the CDLA audio transmission tech of LeEco.
AnonD-529416, 27 Apr 2016no dual tone flash,no laser autofocus, no 3.5 jack, no card slot, no IR and what not... there ... moreA USB-C to 3.5mm converter is in-box. Pretty sad that it got rid of the 3.5mm but it is necessary to get the phone thinner.
Just saw that the LeEco Max 2 is already in stock at Wonda Mobile.
They have a photo of the box bottom and the model name is X820.
No more 3.5mm earphone plug but a USB-C converter is included, also it is dual nano SIM now.
AnonD-529416, 27 Apr 2016no dual tone flash,no laser autofocus, no 3.5 jack, no card slot, no IR and what not... there ... moreThis phone is a game changer it competes again Sampson at seven and wins that battle when the iPhone 7 will come out I'm not even sure who's going to take an upper hand there even though I like iPhone
And that is for better I'm doing or of 12 wireless headphones and seven wired headphones for me it's absolutely no biggie not having this feature and for many others like me as well
View presentation leeco le max 2.
On the iPhone 7 removed 3.5 jack.
Hi. Does there anyone, who already has kept the phone in own hands? What about camera quality?
AnonD-529481, 23 Apr 2016If the 6 gb version comes to India within a price tag of 25k to 28k.Then it will be MI 5 killer.no because it lacks 1 weapon: 3.5mm jack
no dual tone flash,no laser autofocus, no 3.5 jack, no card slot, no IR and what not... there is lot missing... wish they had this all..
maxxx9, 25 Apr 2016you do get a usb c to 3.5 converter in the boxAnd what does it do? How come the digital audio signal from usb gets converted to analog audio through 3.5mm jack? Does the converter uses some audio chip to do this work? Are these chips which denotes final sound quality so crappy that LeEco forget to mention it? It seems so.