Anonymous, 07 Feb 2018Governments need to institute laws against planned obsolescence. All phones should have remova... moreGoogle, Facebook, twitter, Instagram, linkedin, Pinterest and YouTube could be the suitable lobbies for fixing it.
Governments need to institute laws against planned obsolescence. All phones should have removable batteries. All phones should have sd card support. Software update support should be at least 4 years. Screen life should be 5 years minimum. A phone manufacturer that doesn't comply with those basic longevity provisions should be fined heavily.
Macduff, 06 Feb 2018Is this the VERY last flagship with a removable back and battery?sadly, i think it is.
Is this the VERY last flagship with a removable back and battery?
Mostx10, 04 Feb 2018Does V20 support wireless charging ?The V20 does not need wireless charging because it has a vastly better option: removable battery and an OEM external charging kit. The V20's official external battery charger kit BCK 5200 is cheaper than OEM wireless charging kits and it charges faster than wireless charging without accelerating battery deterioration. The BCK 5200 accessory only costs $40 and it comes with a V20 OEM battery, a battery case and a regular charger. Just swap your V20's depleted battery with a fully charged spare and there's no need to be tethered to the wireless charger. The depleted battery can then be charged by the external charger.
Mostx10, 04 Feb 2018Does V20 support wireless charging ?unfortunately no wireless charging supported out of the box due to the metal backplate.
Hani, 05 Feb 2018I wonder why there is no news or confirmation by Lg about Oreo update for the v20? while Huawe... moreLG mobile has the remorse of has making a too much good phone out of industry standards.
I wonder why there is no news or confirmation by Lg about Oreo update for the v20? while Huawei mate 9 confirmed to receive android 8, as both devices were launched at same period.
Anonymous, 04 Feb 2018Welcome back. We miss you here. ;) Somehow your presence makes the V20 forum alive and excit... moreAs a boring mantra repeating the trolls : no Oreo update to the V20. I prefer the V20 anchored at Nougat with their full features than shining phones.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Lol. Yes LG had upped their warranties to 2 years on a lot of its phones (that's hardware) b... moreWelcome back. We miss you here. ;)
Somehow your presence makes the V20 forum alive and exciting. I mean it's like a movie really. There has to be a villain somewhere to keep a movie interesting and exciting. Otherwise, it will be utterly boring.
Anyway, as to your allegations LG could sabotage the Oreo update, yes it's very real. LG is copying Samsung's book, making phones obsolete faster with sealed batteries and putting more colorful but shortlived, fragile curved screen amoled/poled displays. In fact, the V30 is like the new Samsung flagships in terms of planned hardware obsolescence. I mean I've seen far too many newer Samsung phones as recent as your S7 that are already suffering from pink bars, shifted white balance, dimmed display, severe burn ins and screen cracks originating at the curved edges (weakest spot) this early in their life cycle. In contrast, I have as yet to see any sign of ips display deterioration or wear on my still perfectly bright, still perfectly color balanced (no hue shifts), in my more than 5 year old Lenovo P770 smartphone. Of course I only use it now as a dual sim call and text phone, flashlight, mp3 and movie player (it has dedicated sd card support) and FM radio (which I like because it's the only phone I have/had which can broadcast FM radio via loudspeaker without needing to attach a headphone to its jack). Besides, it still is very reliable and as fast as it was when it was new (by 2012 standards) with its never been updated jellybean android software. It's not waterproof but never had an accidental water contact in more than 5 years. Drops? Well it had plenty but the casing and its plastic body and back cover protected it. Part of its reliability is the long battery life, although I have already replaced the original 3500mAh battery with a new one. (The original worn out battery lost capacity and then shortly became swollen/bloated after 4 years of use and was no longer charging). 3500mAh removable battery in a small 4.5" ips display was possible back then in 2012, without making the phone too thick so its really sad we have much bigger and more expensive flagship phones with much less battery capacity and a sealed one at that. That's hardware planned obsolescence.
Now my concern really is in so addition to hardware, software upgrades can be an area which manufacturers can also incorporate planned obsolescence. Strictly speaking, there's high possibility with smartphone sales slowing down due to a saturated market, manufacturers will intentionally slow down phones with software updates. It's a common complaint from Samsung and iphone owners so who knows if LG and other manufacturers follow the leaders. There should be strict regulation like in France which strongly prohibits intentionally making product changes that adversely impacts a product's useful life (making it shorter to encourage frequent purchases).
XX.XX, 03 Feb 2018So what that they lost money? They have a 2 year software update policy to which if they don't... moreLol. Yes LG had upped their warranties to 2 years on a lot of its phones (that's hardware) but no where have they made a legally binding agreement to provide software updates for 2 years.
You can't win this one; either v20s won't get oreo or they'll get a really poorly optimized version of oreo which will leave you wishing you never updated. So which do you want? So many here praise the v20 for all its features but its all those features that are prohibiting updates as all the software needed to keep those gimmicky features working in oreo also need to be updated which makes it very time consuming for software engineers.
From a business perspective it makes no sense and no cents for LG to keep putting resources into the v20 as the majority of units sold for substantially less than MSRP.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018As far as I know, there are two main variants of the dual sim H990DS. I have both, which have... moreThanks again for clarifying, it would be nice to have the extra spare battery but either way I'm happy with my non B&O V20.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Don't hold your breath waiting for oreo, didn't you read LG's mobile division lost money again... moreThe cake is good enough with Nougat, being homemade are better than the industrial ones. Personally I feel in atharax mood thinking about this.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Don't hold your breath waiting for oreo, didn't you read LG's mobile division lost money again... moreSo what that they lost money? They have a 2 year software update policy to which if they don't adhere to, they can be sued for misleading information to the consumer.
Plus Oreo brings project treble so it should be much easier providing Oreo than Nougat.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018How much did you buy yours for and from which ebay seller? The first V20 bought in April through Ebay UK, I don't remember now exactly the amount, but are about £380.
I'm sorry I can't be more precise.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018Good news, that its being updated but I was hoping it would be Oreo or at least that LG is wor... moreDon't hold your breath waiting for oreo, didn't you read LG's mobile division lost money again? They need to cut costs and support would be at the top of my list.
And if they do release an oreo update for this phone it will most likely be so poorly done you'll wish you stayed with nougat. So you can maybe have your cake and you can maybe eat it too but it's going to be some nasty tasting expired cake.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018Since you just said you have the B&O H990DS - I have another question for you; where did y... moreAs far as I know, there are two main variants of the dual sim H990DS. I have both, which have the same 64GB internal storage. I think (though I can't be sure), that the H990DS is only available unlocked and in 64GB configuration as these are intended for international markets.) Anyway, my first/older V20 is H990DS 64GB, B&O version with B&O earbuds and TWO spare batteries included in the box. I bought it for $520 at a local retail store (not online). It tends to be always like that for physical stores. Pricing remains exorbitant even if actual price has already dropped significantly. Anyway, the second V20 I bought is also H990DS 64GB but non-B&O version. It had no spare battery (only one battery is included), it had regular LG earbuds (not B&O version). The phone doesn't have B&O logo on the removable back cover. Bought it from an online seller for $300 which somehow made me wish I had bought my first V20 online instead of buying at a high price from a local physical store. I was already aware of the HUGE online vs local retail store price difference when I bought my first V20. The only reason why I bought my first V20 in a local store instead of online was because the V20 is my first LG phone and there were lots of worrying news from LG's previous devices especially the bootlooping G4. After having first hand experience with my first V20 (B&O version), I was more confident to buy another one, this time, much cheaper, and online. It is being used by another family member.