Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018Same with curved edge Samsung flagship phones. I've seen one too many of those curved glass ph... moreBecause the battery of the 2012 Lenovo P770 is removable, you can also get one with 4000mAh even at present. It's on ebay for so cheap. Again, the phone is a 2012 model with dual sim, dedicated sd card slot, 4.5" ips lcd screen but with HUGE removable battery up to 4000mAh (fits as well as the original 3500mAh removable battery without having to place a 3rd party back cover).
If a smartphone from 2012 can have a 3500mAh to up to 4000mAh REMOVABLE battery, why can't a modern 2018 flagship have it? Simple really... Planned obsolescence.
A 2012 smartphone with removable battery feature is still alive and in use by lots of users (how else would anybody explain why Lenovo P770 non OEM batteries are still available up to now if there's no demand for them)?
Years from now, the same will happen to the last flagship with removable battery - the 2016 LG V20. Keep yours while they last.
And don't worry about batteries. For sure, just like the 2012 Lenovo P770, you'll still have lots of 3rd party ones (non OEM) available for sale years from now.
Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018The V20 doesn't have that sort of horrible screen retention as your G5. Actually many V20 owne... moreSame with curved edge Samsung flagship phones. I've seen one too many of those curved glass phones that crack faster than their owners could fully pay for their monthly amortization or amoled screens getting those dreaded permanent screen burn and/or pink/magenta bars/streaks that is a portent of the screen's imminent death. And I've seen how devastated their owners were when told the screen replacement costs half the phone's price. I've also experienced how my old 2012 Lenovo P770 with removable 3500mAh battery is still alive because of cheap 3rd party battery replacements. Sure it doesn't have the fastest data speed (being 3G only) and the camera is horrible by today's standards or the small internal memory (4GB but with dedicated sd card slot), but I keep using it still because its IPS display is still very good, it still makes for an excellent call and text and browsing device, and it's FM radio is still perfectly working and you could listen to it on loudspeaker without need to attach headphones, and most of all, it makes for a long lasting emergency flashlight with 3500mAh removable battery in a 4.5" screen that's just a little bit chunkier than modern phones but puts to SHAME all modern flagship phones with sub 3500mAh sealed batteries.
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2018I don't know about the V20 but I had the G5 for around a year. The screen retention was absolu... moreThe V20 doesn't have that sort of horrible screen retention as your G5. Actually many V20 owners don't even have it at all or that the sreen retention in their units are probably too mimimal for them to even notice it or consider it a 'problem'. I used to like the Nexus line. (I had a Nexus 7 2013 LTE device before). It was nice to have the fast software updates but then I came to the realization about what truly mattered the most in phones and tablets: Battery life and screen longevity. The Nexus was slow compared to modern devices but I could tolerate it. But then its worn out sealed battery and damaged usb charging port resulted to frequent, slow wireless charging throughout the day as it would drain rapidly after about a year of heavy use. It's up to date Marshmallow software that was touted to improve battery life better than Jellybean, KitKat and Lollipop, did not make my experience less unpleasant. Sure, it had three (3) huge/major android software updates and timely security patches but in the end, it was the battery and charging problem that did it for me. The wireless charging did little to alleviate the problem. It made the battery performance deteriorate further.
As a conclusion, many users/phone buyers lose track of what is truly important/top priority in any phone or tablet: it's not waterproofing or wireless charging or fast software updates. Many users/buyers forget what matters most for phone/tablet longevity because they probably replace their phones/tablets every year or two. In the end, it's the battery and screen longevity matter most and should be top priority closely followed by storage expandability. Processors and cameras are already good/satisfactory in today's phones that we don't need to upgrade as frequently as manufacturers would like us to believe. That's the reason why I'm not a fan of the Nexus or Pixel line anymore. The latesr software experience doesn't matter when your phone/tablet storage is full or the battery is dead.
Anonymous, 05 Jun 2018Those who don't own a V20 really do not know how insignificant the screen retention is but kee... moreI don't know about the V20 but I had the G5 for around a year. The screen retention was absolutely terrible. I'd be on a screen for 30 seconds with 75% brightness and when I'd hit the home button, there was the screen retention. Incredibly obvious and distracting. Not to mention the ridiculous backlight bleeding, abysmal battery life (well under 2 hours screen on time), terrible durability (main camera broke within 6 months of light use, no drops, then camera glass broke a few weeks later) and the disgusting skinned software. And that's not to say all LG phones are terrible. I'm currenty using a Nexus 5X, which other than the battery life (worse than the G5 but as long as it's in power saver mode I don't really notice it) and processing speed, probably due to the 2 GB of RAM, it's a great phone. It doesn't have LG's stupid skin on it, has an easily unlockable bootloader, no carrier lock, meaning there is also no carrier bloat (I only buy unlocked phones or phones I can easily install a ROM on after my terrible G5 experience), and the camera is exceptional, especially compared to my OnePlus 5T I had prior to the Nexus.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018You can buy V20 rear glass camera lens cover at ebay or amazon. Thanks for the information but ebay has only the 8mp module the 16mp is out of stock.
Appreciate the help thanks.
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2018Another typo. This should have been: "Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three came... moreThanks a lot for the links will sure check them out. Hugely appreciate your time and effort.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20 selfie/front camera, 12 ... moreAnother typo. This should have been:
"Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20: the selfie/front facing camera, the 12 mm 8.0 megapixel ultrawide 'big' rear V20 camera and also the small (main 16 megapixel rear 'middle' V20 camera):
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2018Terminology they use can be confusing. The 'big' camera is actually one with the biggest diame... moreSorry for the typo. It should have been: "The 'big' camera is actually one with the biggest diameter (the 12 mm, 8.0 megapixel ultrawide secondary rear camera)". "
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20 selfie/front camera, 12 ... moreTerminology they use can be confusing. The 'big' camera is actually one with the biggest diameter (the 12 megapixel ultrawide secondary rear camera)..The 'middle' camera is actually one with the 'middle' sized / 'mid sized' diameter (that is, it refers to the 16 megapixel main rear camera). The 'small' camera actually refers to the smallest diameter V20 camera (that is, the 5.0 megapixel front facing/selfie camera).
Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20 selfie/front camera, 12 megapixel ultrawide 'big' rear V20 camera and also the small (main 16 megapixel rear 'middle' V20 camera):
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018For the entire V20 rear camera module (main 16 megapixel rear camera), you can buy from aliexp... moreSorry my mistake. Link is for the secondary ultrawide 8.0 megapixel big rear camera module. You can try to ask aliexpress seller for the other (main 16 megapixel) rear camera as they also accept special orders.
For the entire V20 rear camera module (main 16 megapixel rear camera), you can buy from aliexpress:
Hello guys I own a v 20, and things have been great till recently I found a small smudge on the photos taken using my 16mp camera. The only solution is to replace the camera module as I found by cleaning the glass covering the camera lens.
I can replace the camera module by myself but I need one to do so. If any of you had have any idea where to buy 16mp camera module please share the info.
I am from India and here the service centers are not of much help. So if you guys could tell me where to purchase one online it would be great.
1. No IR blaster
2. No dedicated sd card slot
3. No FM radio
4. No drop resistance
5. No slimport usb c to hdmi out
6. No removable battery
7. No high quality audio playback/recording, photo/video: TIE
8. No second screen
9. No 'LTE only' setting
10. No capability for hidden SSD
11. Costs more.
Tied with the V20:
12. Amoled screen - looks brighter and more vivid than ips but doesn't last as long as IPS and less color accurate than IPS; more severe permanent burn in vs. temporary image retention with IPS; shifts color balance with long term use; not so with IPS. Verdict: Short term use: Amoled wins. Long-term use/longevity: IPS wins. TIE.
13.Processor speed/power: Snapdragon 820 vs Exynos 8890. TIE
14. Quick charging and OTG: TIE
Features not in the V20:
1. Wireless charging (not needed in the V20 with removable and externally chargeable battery)
2. Waterproofing (advantage as long as phone seals are regularly replaced and as long as phone is not opened [for sealed battery replacement or repair]
Come on. Where are the V20 trolls? Any takers? Phones older than the V20 don't count as all of them (ex. V10) have lower specs (older processor, smaller internal memory, smaller screen, smaller removable battery, etc) If you find even just a single modern flagship of 2017 or 2018 with even just 7 of the 14, tell me and I'll dump my two V20's. If not, you V20 trolls should dump yours instead --- oh wait, you don't need to, your sealed battery phone with fragile curved amoled screen will most certainly make you dump them after 2 years of use - assuming you are really using them and not just for fashion statement and bragging rights.
Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018Are you applying for a salesman position? Most of these features aren't unique to the v20 at t... moreMost of these features aren't unique to the V20? Please oh please tell me which phone brand and model to buy that has even just half (7) of the 14.
Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018Generally consensus will suggest when it comes to technology newer is always better. As I sai... moreOf course newer technology is 'generally better'. I agree with that. 5G is better than 4G. 4K is better than HD and HD is better than SD. But sealing the battery and choosing a small one to achieve a slim, futuristic look is NOT new technology. Curving the screen to make it look futuristic while making it more fragile in the process and prone to unwanted touch interaction is NOT new technology. Changing the phone's aspect ratio to sell more and encourage upgrades is NOT new technology. Sure you can always call 'new external design' as NEW technology but now you see that NEW doesn't always equal to better and doesn't always benefit consumers especially if it makes the phone disposable. And while the improved processor speeds are good to have always many people don't realize that they are just way more than most people are actually able to use. It's like buying a race car while driving on busy city roads. There is satisfaction from bragging rights but the improved speed and power is barely realized as long as you keep on using it on normal city traffic.