[deleted post]They were already mentioned in the long post below. (14 Pros). Cons were also mentioned (no Oreo for some models, not waterproof, image retention in some units). Some missing features you may prefer but are not really 'cons': wireless charging, bezel-less screen, below 4000mAh battery, etc.
What are the pros and cons about this phone please? Thanks in advance.
Anonymous, 05 Dec 2018Still no Oreo for AMEI highly doubt if Oreo will ever come to the AME, ESA and other H990DS variants. LG is probably done with the V20 updates after updating just the US carrier versions, Korean version and SEA and TWN versions.
LG V20 is still a great phone two years after release. It's my go-to phone once I get home.
Anonymous, 11 Nov 2018I've read an article from a reliable source that V20 would get the Pie update in 2019. But tha... moreAhaha...reliable source...Even if the LG itself would release such info,we still should take it as 25% truth
Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018Is this phone still worth it in 2018/19? Thanks in advance.Depends on what you prefer on the phone.For me it is really good all-rounder and it plays all the games,has great sound through headphones,good camera ,not the best battery life but that's why we can swap it in a few seconds (need to buy battery recharging dock and it usually comes with another battery) and be forever independent from the wall plug.It's not water resistant but I don't really see the reason for this hype anyways,unless you live in Atlantida.The only downside is the display ghosting,there's a chance your unit can have it and it is quite noticeable,so it's a lottery (not a problem if you have an LG store near you as they will most likely swap it for a new unit if you take it in guarantee,otherwise-not worth the pain).It will most likely (99% imho) not get any major updates following oreo.I would put a screen protector as it is most vulnerable point of this phone (regarding the rest of it's body,you can play football with it) That's my two cents,I hope it helped (btw watch some recent videos on youtube about it)
Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018Is this phone still worth it in 2018/19? Thanks in advance.For discriminating users who value phone longevity, and for specific users who want their phone to replace so many things and do so many things other smartphones can't, YES. There's just no substitute for the V20 H990DS. Otherwise, if you like to change phones and upgrade phones frequently and just use your phone for Facebook, Youtube, shopping, browsing and some gaming, then there's an OCEAN of many other alternative choices. As for me though, I'm stuck with my V20 (I have two of them: B&O and non-B&O version) because even though they were never updated to Oreo and even if one had screen retention problem if I don't use Bluelight filter app, there's nothing quite like the V20 for my highly diverse and demanding needs and wants. The features which made me stick with my V20 (H990DS) are the following, that is, despite LG's HORRIBLE software update support (possibly the MOST horrible in the flagship android world) and despite LG's sloppy quality control (some B&O units have screen retention problem like mine):
1. The V20 has a built-in IR blaster to control all your appliances including those of your noisy neighbors. Volume of their sound system too high? Turn it down or turn it off with your V20 secretly through their window. It will scare the hell out of them so they will stop being noisy. Want to input your song number in a karaoke player? You can do it with your V20! Aircon? TV? Washing Machine? Car stereo? Teach your V20. It has a learn mode! Just REALLY spend time learning how to use it and customizing it and you'll wonder how you ever survived using a phone without one.
2. The V20 has dedicated sd card slot, not that stupid hybrid slot where you are forced to choose between dual SIM or one SIM + SD card only. With the V20, you can use the 2 SIM slots AND still add your SD card. What's more, the V20 supports 400GB micro sd cards which are now just $99.99 at Amazon.com and also supports up to 2TB micro sd cards (when they become available).
3. The V20 is the ONLY recent flagship with analog FM radio. All the rest have removed it. When theres a calamity, you'll realize its utmost value when nothing other than your FM radio is working. When you just have to listen to your favorite DJ on those long trips without data available, you are going to realize how much you miss not having an FM radio with you, anytime, anywhere, without wasting data and draining your battery in the process.
4. The V20 has drop resistance which ensures your phone will handle drops. More important than waterproofing really. I have dropped my phone a lot more times than wetting it with liquid and damaging it in the process. You can buy a waterproof case too if needed.
5. The V20 has slimport (hdmi out/4K video out) capability. Wireless screen share of movies is nice but results to downgrade in video quality due to WiDi bandwidth limitations. Not so with slimport. Also, the V20 is licensed to play Google Play movies in HD. You may not be aware of it or notice it but on a Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, Vivo, Oneplus, Lenovo, and other lesser known phones, HD playback on the phone of Google play movies is not allowed even if the phone is capable. It's a DRM (digital rights management) /studio thing. You can't change it.
6. The V20 has removable battery. Low batt? Replace with a fully charged spare while charging the depleted battery using an external charger accessory. That means no charging time needed, no wear and tear of usb port (loosening), and no frequent exposure of phone internals from heat generated due to charging. Forget slow wireless charging! Why accelerate battery wear with even more heat? Removable battery and external charging is best!
7. The V20 has high quality audio recording, high-quality 4K 30fps video capture with FULL MANUAL controls and SUPERB photo capture with dual cameras and FULL MANUAL controls.
8. The V20 has a high resolution QHD IPS display with SECOND SCREEN. Place app shortcuts, your name or even Christmas greetings or whatever you like (Halloween, Valentines, emojis, etc.) on the second screen.
9. The V20 has fast charging when you need it through USB-C. It's OTG compatible too! USB thumb drives, external hard drives, even those in NTFS and exFAT formats (not limited to FAT32) can be read with the proper app.
10. The V20 has analog headphone jack when all the rest have removed it. Connect your home theater receiver/amplifier to it, your treadmill, your workplace sound system, your TV , your PC monitor with built in speakers, etc! The 3.5mm jack is not just for wired headphones really. Losing it is a big deal for many.
11. The V20 has LTE advanced (4G+) with support for wall penetrating 700mhz. It has ABILITY to FORCE network mode to 4G/4G+ only (LTE only) for those places where the auto mode (GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto) keeps on giving you the slower HSPA/HSPA+ (H/H+) signal. You can't do that on iPhones, Huaweis and Samsungs.
12. The V20's screen is a bright, 5.7" IPS panel in ideal 16:9 aspect ratio. 18:9 may be IN nowadays but consider this: 18:9 screen actually makes Facebook photo feeds smaller! 18:9 is too narrow. It makes keyboard typing cramped for the same screen diagonal! Reading in 18:9 curved phones look like reading text from a bottle of shampoo! Too much scroll! Amoled screens look nice, but if you didn't know already, they actually have much shorter life span than IPS panels. Amoleds tend to burn all their blue pixels and white pixels faster than the red and green ones, losing brightness faster with time and skewing the white balance towards reddish or amber tones. Microled (not Amoled) is the true LCD successor.
13. The V20 has sufficiently powerful processor and now costs already below $300. It has no longer the fastest flagship processor (it was released in 2016) but really, you don't need the fastest processor for Facebook, Mobile Legends and Clash of Clans! Processors are like cars. The only benefit of the fastest cars are bragging rights and speeds in the race track. They're barely noticeable in everyday city driving.
14. The V20 supports hidden SSID in hotspot. Want to share your V20's data connection to your other devices via wifi hotspot without letting others know? Just set the SSID to hidden and nobody will ever ask you what your wifi/hotspot password is.
If you need and want all of those 14 features, then, YES, the V20 is still very relevant in 2018, and likely beyond. Otherwise, there are lots other alternatives for the usual Facebook /selfie/Youtube/shopping/gaming only oriented phone user.
Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018Does anyone use sony walkman, is it better vs v20 quad dac or the difference is unnoticeable.I bought the V20 eighteen months ago basically for music matters. I use it commonly wired to a loudspeaker and since the purchase never i has been disappointed.
Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018Does anyone use sony walkman, is it better vs v20 quad dac or the difference is unnoticeable.The sound quality difference is noticeable even if you don't use any equalizer. The V20's quad DAC brings out the best in any music if you like to listen to music flat (that is, no equalizer adjustments), and yes, the quality difference is noticeable even if you use a different headphone brand than what I'm using.
As for me though, I do like a specific sound signature when playing my music files (flac and mp3) and so I use an equalizer app all the time when music listening with my V20. My favorite music player is BS Player used simultaneously with Equalizer FX app (both can be downloaded from playstore). If you are interested in a transparent sound signature with realistic, an almost 'live', 'in there' sounding vocals/midrange (an almost real feeling of the singer's 'presence' performing live in front of you), wide soundstage, deep bass and crystal clear highs without being harsh and irritating, here are my equalizer settings for the V20 (B&O version) when used either with wired headphones or bluetooth earbuds. If you want to listen to impeccable sound quality in the exact way I hear it in my V20, use either the Xiaomi Mi Sport bluetooth earbuds and/or Audio-Technica ATH M50s LE headphones which I am currently using with these equalizer settings:
Music player: BSplayer free
Equalizer app: Equalizer FX
Settings for Equalizer FX:
Virtualization: On (set bar to around 20% of total length)
I get superb, excellent sound from these settings: wired or wireless especially with high quality FLAC music or high bit rate MP3. I have the B&O version H990DS LG V20. (The non B&O version may have a different sound signature and therefore may require different equalizer settings). Note: For wired headphone, I like the sound signature better with the "HiFi Quad DAC" turned off/disabled.
[deleted post]None of them, I own Lg V20 which came with Android 7 and seems gonna die with it.Lg is very mean with updates.I would suggest Pixel.
Does anyone use sony walkman, is it better vs v20 quad dac or the difference is unnoticeable.
My experience, with LG V20 is outstanding💓 I love my phone, I do lots of stuff with this phone. I like it a lot.
I used LG v20 for 1.5 years and then as always good things comes to an end. My phone was damaged due to water. But honestly the camera was superb. And the images taken were vivid and full of life. Phone was awesome. But LG lacks good customer support.
Follow this guide guys and use the refurbish option to flash oreo kdz from any region. Mine worked like a cham. Was AME and I refurbed it with SEA kdz. No bootlooos. I love the oreo look. No probs so far. Make a backup and restore ur stuff after.
sohi.farhad, 25 Nov 2018One hundred percent this is my (first and) last LG phone. more than two years without any OS u... moreI can't blame your frustration. I admit, LG's dying mobile phone sales and dying mobile market share is greatly worsening LG's software update support.
Poor software update support is actually the #1 most horrible aspect of owning an LG smartphone--- it is very prevalent even in flagship LG phones (majority of unlocked international models are left stagnant without any major android software updates and without even security patches sunce January 2018).
Well.... i think if LG is not very much serious about their cell phone products, they should consider their previous complains about LG devices first, and than go on for new models. They should pay attention to customer's demand and complain for a streamline in cell phone field. I can't understand why they don't have proper management body regarding to deal cell phone issues.