Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Lol. Yes LG had upped their warranties to 2 years on a lot of its phones (that's hardware) b... moreWelcome back. We miss you here. ;)
Somehow your presence makes the V20 forum alive and exciting. I mean it's like a movie really. There has to be a villain somewhere to keep a movie interesting and exciting. Otherwise, it will be utterly boring.
Anyway, as to your allegations LG could sabotage the Oreo update, yes it's very real. LG is copying Samsung's book, making phones obsolete faster with sealed batteries and putting more colorful but shortlived, fragile curved screen amoled/poled displays. In fact, the V30 is like the new Samsung flagships in terms of planned hardware obsolescence. I mean I've seen far too many newer Samsung phones as recent as your S7 that are already suffering from pink bars, shifted white balance, dimmed display, severe burn ins and screen cracks originating at the curved edges (weakest spot) this early in their life cycle. In contrast, I have as yet to see any sign of ips display deterioration or wear on my still perfectly bright, still perfectly color balanced (no hue shifts), in my more than 5 year old Lenovo P770 smartphone. Of course I only use it now as a dual sim call and text phone, flashlight, mp3 and movie player (it has dedicated sd card support) and FM radio (which I like because it's the only phone I have/had which can broadcast FM radio via loudspeaker without needing to attach a headphone to its jack). Besides, it still is very reliable and as fast as it was when it was new (by 2012 standards) with its never been updated jellybean android software. It's not waterproof but never had an accidental water contact in more than 5 years. Drops? Well it had plenty but the casing and its plastic body and back cover protected it. Part of its reliability is the long battery life, although I have already replaced the original 3500mAh battery with a new one. (The original worn out battery lost capacity and then shortly became swollen/bloated after 4 years of use and was no longer charging). 3500mAh removable battery in a small 4.5" ips display was possible back then in 2012, without making the phone too thick so its really sad we have much bigger and more expensive flagship phones with much less battery capacity and a sealed one at that. That's hardware planned obsolescence.
Now my concern really is in so addition to hardware, software upgrades can be an area which manufacturers can also incorporate planned obsolescence. Strictly speaking, there's high possibility with smartphone sales slowing down due to a saturated market, manufacturers will intentionally slow down phones with software updates. It's a common complaint from Samsung and iphone owners so who knows if LG and other manufacturers follow the leaders. There should be strict regulation like in France which strongly prohibits intentionally making product changes that adversely impacts a product's useful life (making it shorter to encourage frequent purchases).
XX.XX, 03 Feb 2018So what that they lost money? They have a 2 year software update policy to which if they don't... moreLol. Yes LG had upped their warranties to 2 years on a lot of its phones (that's hardware) but no where have they made a legally binding agreement to provide software updates for 2 years.
You can't win this one; either v20s won't get oreo or they'll get a really poorly optimized version of oreo which will leave you wishing you never updated. So which do you want? So many here praise the v20 for all its features but its all those features that are prohibiting updates as all the software needed to keep those gimmicky features working in oreo also need to be updated which makes it very time consuming for software engineers.
From a business perspective it makes no sense and no cents for LG to keep putting resources into the v20 as the majority of units sold for substantially less than MSRP.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018As far as I know, there are two main variants of the dual sim H990DS. I have both, which have... moreThanks again for clarifying, it would be nice to have the extra spare battery but either way I'm happy with my non B&O V20.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Don't hold your breath waiting for oreo, didn't you read LG's mobile division lost money again... moreThe cake is good enough with Nougat, being homemade are better than the industrial ones. Personally I feel in atharax mood thinking about this.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Don't hold your breath waiting for oreo, didn't you read LG's mobile division lost money again... moreSo what that they lost money? They have a 2 year software update policy to which if they don't adhere to, they can be sued for misleading information to the consumer.
Plus Oreo brings project treble so it should be much easier providing Oreo than Nougat.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018How much did you buy yours for and from which ebay seller? The first V20 bought in April through Ebay UK, I don't remember now exactly the amount, but are about £380.
I'm sorry I can't be more precise.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018Good news, that its being updated but I was hoping it would be Oreo or at least that LG is wor... moreDon't hold your breath waiting for oreo, didn't you read LG's mobile division lost money again? They need to cut costs and support would be at the top of my list.
And if they do release an oreo update for this phone it will most likely be so poorly done you'll wish you stayed with nougat. So you can maybe have your cake and you can maybe eat it too but it's going to be some nasty tasting expired cake.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018Since you just said you have the B&O H990DS - I have another question for you; where did y... moreAs far as I know, there are two main variants of the dual sim H990DS. I have both, which have the same 64GB internal storage. I think (though I can't be sure), that the H990DS is only available unlocked and in 64GB configuration as these are intended for international markets.) Anyway, my first/older V20 is H990DS 64GB, B&O version with B&O earbuds and TWO spare batteries included in the box. I bought it for $520 at a local retail store (not online). It tends to be always like that for physical stores. Pricing remains exorbitant even if actual price has already dropped significantly. Anyway, the second V20 I bought is also H990DS 64GB but non-B&O version. It had no spare battery (only one battery is included), it had regular LG earbuds (not B&O version). The phone doesn't have B&O logo on the removable back cover. Bought it from an online seller for $300 which somehow made me wish I had bought my first V20 online instead of buying at a high price from a local physical store. I was already aware of the HUGE online vs local retail store price difference when I bought my first V20. The only reason why I bought my first V20 in a local store instead of online was because the V20 is my first LG phone and there were lots of worrying news from LG's previous devices especially the bootlooping G4. After having first hand experience with my first V20 (B&O version), I was more confident to buy another one, this time, much cheaper, and online. It is being used by another family member.
AnonD-734811, 02 Feb 2018should we take off micro sd card if we want to use 2 sim card in lg v20 ?The V20 has slots for 2 SIM cards and one independent slot to SD card.
You can take the advantage of the nowadays total distribution.
XX.XX, 01 Feb 2018Yes, it is worth buying in 2018. I just bought one 2 weeks ago :)Yes, highly recommended my friend. Bought one for my cousin few days ago. I own one too. It's smooth and the camera output is super great and incomparable to other flagships which were released last year or 2016, thanks to that extensively exhausting hard to learn manual thing tho, but worth it when you learn how it works sort of same in my DSLR manual settings, play with it and learn with it, sets V20 apart; that's with the rear camera. Selfie cam is just the same as the other flagship phones. Overall, can go on part with the newly released flagship phones.
XX.XX, 02 Feb 2018Since you just said you have the B&O H990DS - I have another question for you; where did y... moreI have one V20 - 64Gb. bought the last April through Ebay and one more bought the last July through Amazon. Both of 64 Gb. and B&O branded.
I presume doesn't matter the Gb. to be B&O branded or not.
AnonD-162753, 02 Feb 2018Guys new update for. Lgv20 H918 T mobile is available. Bumping security patch level to jan1 2018Good news, that its being updated but I was hoping it would be Oreo or at least that LG is working on Oreo because of the long delay of updates. Plus, the V20 launched on Nougat so it should receive a 2nd major android update which is Oreo because a new android comes out every year or so, so a 2 year software update policy should guarantee a Oreo update right?
Anonymous, 02 Feb 2018Sorry I forgot. I got overexcited about the V20 and a bout with nostalgia regarding my very fi... moreSince you just said you have the B&O H990DS - I have another question for you; where did you buy your B&O H990DS & for how much and is it the 32GB or 64GB model?
Because after seeing two new 32GB V20's at a local shop with a exorbitant price of £379.99 until the present day (I was in the shop today), I was slightly surprised that my recently bought 64Gb H990DS for £260 from Ebay is not B&O branded and even thought it was fake for a second but everything's legit which makes me bring up the question:
Are the B&O branded V20's specifically only 32GB or are there 64GB models as well? And if it is like that then I don't understand the confusion made by LG despite me being happy with this phone.
Guys new update for. Lgv20 H918 T mobile is available. Bumping security patch level to jan1 2018
AnonD-734566, 01 Feb 2018will this be a good upgrade from vibe x 3 , i need a phone with good audio quality Sorry I forgot. I got overexcited about the V20 and a bout with nostalgia regarding my very first smart phone, the Lenovo P770, that I forgot you asked about audio quality of the V20. Yes, the V20 has superb audio quality although I tend to use it with an Equalizer app (Equalizer FX from playstore) and using BSplayer as music/video player as I prefer a transparent sound signature with realistic, an almost 'live', 'in there' sounding vocals/midrange (an almost real feeling of the singer's 'presence' performing live in front of you), wide soundstage, deep bass and crystal clear highs without being harsh and irritating. Anyway, if you are so much into audio and would like to hear exactly what I'm talking about, I'm reposting again my audio gear and settings I use with my V20:
My equalizer settings for Xiaomi Mi Sport bluetooth earbuds and Audio-Technica ATH M50s headphones:
Music player: BSplayer free
Equalizer app: Equalizer FX
Settings for Equalizer FX:
Virtualization: On (set bar to around 20% of total length)
I get superb, excellent sound from these settings: wired or wireless. I have the B&O version H990DS LG V20. (The non B&O version may have different sound signature and therefore require different equalizer settings). Note: For wired headphone, I like the sound signature better with the "HiFi Quad DAC" turned off/disabled.
AnonD-734566, 01 Feb 2018will this be a good upgrade from vibe x 3 , i need a phone with good audio quality Yes. I'd upgrade in a heartbeat if I were you while the V20 is available and priced at superb discount prices. More than the removable battery, the V20 has a learning remote. It works with even less known appliance brands, including most air-conditioners where ir blasters without learning mode will not be able to control. In addition, the V20 has support for 700mhz LTE band which, if your network supports it, will give you better signal indoors making you enjoy high speed 4G+ internet even in basement parking spaces and elevators. Also, the V20 has 4K usb c to hdmi slimport support. If you like watching movies on your large screen tv from your phone, you will notice video quality and playback smoothness using wired slimport connection is absolutely so much better than wireless streaming. As a bonus, no need to waste data connection when you have the movie stored offline in your phone. Also, the V20 supports HD playback of rented or purchased Google play movies. Most other Chinese brand phones like Lenovo, Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, Vivo and even Oneplus flagship phones don't. I don't understand why Google play movies refuse HD download and playback in-phone with these phone brands. Must be a studio licensing thing. So if you are into movie rentals and purchases and would like to play movies with DRM through your phone at the highest HD or even in 4k resolutions, the V20's support of HD and 4K playback via slimport adapter is heaven sent. Other features the V20 has that the Vibe X3 doesn't have are dedicated SD card slot, which, if you are like me who always use two sims and have 75GB worth of media files (stored in the dedicated sd card slot), the dedicated sd card support is just indispensable. Other improvements of the V20 over the Vibe X3 are the higher quality IPS screen with its higher QHD resolution and slightly bigger 5.7" screen, faster processor and convenient reversible usb c with Qualcomm quick charge 3.0 (although you may not need to use it frequently due to the V20's removable battery). Speaking of removable battery, my Lenovo P770 is still alive up to now because of it. Unbelievable 2012 phone. My very first smartphone which had a huge 3500mAh battery at that time (2012) and removable battery too! After 4 years of daily use (I love its FM radio that doesn't need headphones to play out FM stations via loudspeaker), the battery became swollen/bloated. Good thing third party battery replacements are very much available even until now, more than 5 years after the phone has been released so bought one for less than $10 and now, the phone is functional again. Amazing because it is now going towards its 6th year! The 3rd party removable battery saved it. Its IPS display is still perfectly color balanced, and very much still problem free as when it was new. The only major downside is its lack of storage space having only 4GB internal memory which is not enough for Google apps which cannot be moved to sd card at all. But even then, more than worth the investment. Of course, it still doesn't have fingerprint sensor, LTE support, ir blaster, wifi direct, slimport support, etc. being an old phone. It has never been upgraded by Lenovo from Jellybean but guess what? It's still as smooth and as fast (by 2012 standards) now as it was when brand new. I'm actually hoping my V20's will last as long.
AnonD-734566, 01 Feb 2018will this be a good upgrade from vibe x 3 , i need a phone with good audio quality The V20 is your phone while the pack also comes with the features that have made this model unique.
AnonD-734566, 01 Feb 2018will this be a good upgrade from vibe x 3 , i need a phone with good audio quality The V20 is a good upgrade from the Vibe x3. The V20 has a hi-fi DAC so you'll surely have good audio quality but comparing the two side-by-side, there's not many differences to justify spending money unless you really want to upgrade.
I actually even like the vibe x3 front design more than the V20 but that's my opinion. The x3 has stereo speakers and a slightly bigger battery at 3500mAh but it's sealed in and that's about all the advantages it has over the V20.
If you really feel the need to upgrade, go for it, you'll surely see the big feature portfolio + improvements in the V20 over the x3 but if you can wait a little longer you can save a little more money but it's all up to you.