Anonymous, 07 Apr 2018Android flagship phone manufacturers do not like to make phones with dual SIM slots with dedic... moreActually, most Android flagship phones do make dual sim versions. They generally aren't available in the US market though, because prepaid sim cards are not as common in the USA. Most people in the USA sign contracts with one provider, with a postpaid sim card, and minimum montly fees. I have been an expat for over ten years now, living in several countries. In every country I have lived in, prepaid sims were what the majority of people have. I have two sim cards from the two major providers in my LG V20. Had the same in the Samsung I had before, and the Huawei I had before that.
I have nothing against sealed batteries because before the V20, all my phones have/had sealed batteries except for my very first smartphone (the 2012 Lenovo P770 which is still alive thanks to its removable 3500mAh battery which had already been replaced by a non OEM battery). What I hate is small sealed batteries in ultra expensive flagships in the name of 'style' and in exchange for rapid obsolescence. It is a fact that the more frequent a lithium ion /lithium polymer battery gets to deep discharge levels (15% and below), the faster and the more accelerated the battery wear/deterioration. Smaller capacity batteries just barely above 3000mAh frequently end an average day of use at these deep discharge levels (unless one keeps inconveniently recharging the phone throughout the day). A phone that always ends up with deep discharge low battery levels will have its battery, always wear faster than one that gets recharged before getting to deep discharge levels. That's why large battery capacity (at least 4000mAh) is important if you want your phone to last more than two years without the inconvenience of frequent charging. You'll have to protect it from drops still, as drops can cause battery damage even if they don't damage the screen.
Anonymous, 29 May 2018Again why do you keep saying phones with sealed batteries only last two years and then need to... moreBecause that's the truth for sealed batteries that are less than 4000mAh in which majority of the flagships now (except for Huawei) are barely just above 3000mAh. Have you ever heard of phone battery warranties above 1 year or 2 years? Nope. That's because battery life is dependent on usage. And with heavy usage nowadays for most users, comes shorter battery life. Sure you can still use the 2 year old phone with worn-out battery by carrying a huge powerbank, (so much for the thin, slim & sexy curvaceous design) or you can carry a charger, charging 3-5x a day. Or you can have the sealed battery replaced for an exorbitant price of half the current cost of the phone, while effectively destroying its 'waterproofing' feature, another 'no warranty' feature, and while also waiting endlessly, hoping the technician does not snoop on your personal data, waiting endlessly when you can have your phone back because of the phased out battery model which the original equipment manufacturer is having trouble sourcing. That's clearly planned 2-year obsolescence.
Rimac , 29 May 2018And the Holy waterproofing, if have, remains the same ?
With removable batteries you have a ... moreI'm not going back to debating sealed VS user removable batteries but I hope you're enjoying your ZeroClass 1,000,000mah battery.
I just wanted to make it clear that present day flagship phones with sealed batteries are not being thrown away after 2 years and that while their batteries are sealed they can still be replaced.
Anonymous, 29 May 2018Again why do you keep saying phones with sealed batteries only last two years and then need to... moreI've had a galaxy s5 for 4years. When the battery has started to fail (as measuredby the need to charge it more frequently), usually after one year, then I 've simply replaced it with an inexpensive battery. Of course you can choose to simply charge more frequently after about one year but I prefer to replace the battery. Yes, on the newer phones you can have a tech replace the battery but in my area that costs $75 - $80. Thats about 5 yrs worth of batteries in my S5.
Of courses a lot of people choose to upgrade their phones every year or two in which case the battery becomes a non issue. But with phones approaching $1,000 I prefer to hang on to mine longer and when you look at any phone the primary weakness over time is the battery so it seems a waste to do away with removable batteries simply for a little bit sleeker style. Note that my S5 is also water resistant down to 3 meters.
Anonymous, 29 May 2018Again why do you keep saying phones with sealed batteries only last two years and then need to... moreAnd the Holy waterproofing, if have, remains the same ?
With removable batteries you have a wide range of different total mAh in batteries.
Anonymous, 29 May 2018I have no need for 2TB cards for now although I might buy the 400GB card early next year as my... moreAgain why do you keep saying phones with sealed batteries only last two years and then need to be thrown away. I still see a lot of people using iPhone 6 even iPhone 5s with sealed batteries still in use and those are well past 2 years old. And just because a phone with a sealed battery is not user replaceable doesn't mean it's non-replaceable, you can take it to a service shop and get it replaced. You make it sound like such an inconvenience, It's not.
Some might argue having a phone with a removable battery with poor battery life and always having to swap batteries on a daily basis a bigger inconvenience.
If you drop your phone and the screen breaks you can get it replaced. Charging port stops working you can get it fixed. Phone bootloops you can get it fixed. And yes, even if your sealed battery is not holding a charge like it use to, you can get it replaced. You DON'T have to throw it away.
Anonymous, 29 May 2018The reason why I didn't buy this phone were 1) the screen is average at best but even not as b... moreI have no need for 2TB cards for now although I might buy the 400GB card early next year as my current 200GB external storage is already more than half full. However, if 1 TB /2TB cards become available next year, I just might buy one to store all my laptop contents. Those terabyte cards are going to be expensive for sure but they're still way cheaper and a better investment than those overpriced sealead battery flagship phones that cost upwards of $800 and last 2 years. Sandisk SD cards have 10 year warranties.
Anonymous, 29 May 2018Nice distorted interpretation of a straightforward V20 complaint about the lack of prompt soft... moreThe reason why I didn't buy this phone were 1) the screen is average at best but even not as bright as the one on the G4. I was also nervous the v20 screen would also have the ghosting problem, it does. 2) below average battery life and 3) It's just downright bulky and one fugly phone.
Had the v20 had an awesome screen and great battery life I could have forgave it's aweful looks. Actually lack of updates had nothing to do with me not buying one. I can care less about gimmick features, I just want an awesome screen, awesome battery life and an awesome camera. No manipulation, warping, or distorting here! Nice try, though.
Hey did you get one of those 2tb sd cards yet?
Anonymous, 28 May 2018Nailed it. This device has tons of features as someone here babbles on and on about ir blaste... moreNice distorted interpretation of a straightforward V20 complaint about the lack of prompt software updates from LG. It's amazing how your trolling prowess distorts the slow software update complaint into something which was never mentioned like battery life, sd card, and ir blaster which have no relevance to the original complaint.
Dazed, 27 May 2018This was my first, and will be my last, LG phone.
I bought it for the excellent build quality... moreNailed it. This device has tons of features as someone here babbles on and on about ir blaster, removable battery and support for 2tb cards that don't exist yet but the one thing you can't quantify or at least is very difficult to is user experience which most LG phones lack.
After owning two LG phones myself I got tired of having to baby them to get decent battery life like turning Bluetooth and GPS on only when I needed it otherwise it just drains. My current phone gets much better battery life and stand-by with everything always turned on so no more toggling settings for me.
LG V20 owner, 27 May 2018Dear all
I've been using the V20 for a year now and I would highly recommend it to anyone l... moreTo be young is a good deal for computing experience. To be too much young drive commonly to the confusion.
The V20 acceptance prove it.
Guys does the camera lens got a plastic cover irself? The smaller lens on the back seems have one Im trying to remove it but It wont it already scratched but the larger lens has no scratch at all
I've been using the V20 for a year now and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for an excellent Android experience, I would dare to say the best one for more than a few reasons. It's still fast as in day 1, never had to reset it once, never crashed, LG's UI is the most practical one when compared to competition, the second screen, always ON, gives you access from any app to a predefined set of controls and 5 custom ones. For example you can have: 1. Favourite contact, 2. Web browser, 3. Email manager, 4. File manager, 5. GPS navigator.
Then we have: HiFi audio, high quality build, REMOVABLE BATTERY, 4K video recording, A+ photo and video recording, studio quality sound recording, expandable storage, excellent finger print sensor, on the back, in the perfect position where it should be.
Now, it's funny when you look at all the online reviews and nobody is able to recommend this phone, instead they go with A & S which are inferiour products by design.
The only issue with the V20 is that the screen sometimes shows a ghosting effect when at high brightness, but goes away in a few minutes if the brightness is lowered or the phone is switched OFF, this is not a permanent issue so doesn't bother me much.
These days you can buy one for less than $300 which makes it a very good offer.
If on a budget another great phone is the LG G3.
It's a shame that LG has lost vision with their new smartphones, following different manufactures in terms of design and inferiour construction. The V20 it's the best and last practical smartphone done with common sens and respect for the client.
All the reviewers out there might have their own reasons to not recommend this phone, I'm a V20 owner who did try the apples and different androids and only tries to make people see throught the dense fog.
This was my first, and will be my last, LG phone.
I bought it for the excellent build quality, the removable battery, the headphone jack, and to just plain get away from Samsung.
The lack of updates, the buggy UI software "tweaks" to the Android base, the complete lack of care by LG to keep their devices relevant, all mean that I won't be back.
I don't really mind that it's 7 I just wish they would have some security updates really a great phone
Oreo was planned end of this month for the V20. I have reason to believe that it won't happen this month as even the newer V30 hasn't gotten an Oreo update yet. People are complaining over there at the V30 forum.
XX.XX, 26 May 2018I just got an update to my V20 H990DS. Size of it was 643mb and only the security patch change... moreYes, I agree. LG's update frequency and timeliness of updates is just plain horrible.
I disagree with the statement the HTC U Ultra is better than the V20 in low light. Here's Gsmarena's photo compare tool comparing the HTC U ultra with the V20 in low light. Check details on the dollar bill and Sponge Bob:
The V20 is clearly superior here.
Also, while the HTC U Ultra is a good old flagship phone with the same snapdragon 821 processor as the V20, the similarity ends there. Other than the Oreo update, the HTC U Ultra is inferior (not to mention overpriced) compared to the V20 in every way - smaller sealed 3000mAh battery, no dedicated sd card slot, no headphone jack, no FM radio, no IR blaster, worse implementation of second screen compared to the V20. So no, the HTC U Ultra is a poor substitute for the V20.