Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Why are you avoiding my argument about the four core features (screen, battery life, camera, m... moreOh, you want to change the argument to the four core features of the S7 that is superior to the V20? (screen, battery life, camera, memory). Ok please explain why I should buy an S7 by those 4 arguments and I'll give you 14 reasons why the V20 is better. Oh, wait... I've already stated them before but you stated they were 'lowly' and nothing special. :)
Really, it would have been simple if you just admitted 'yes' tge S7, whatever variant, doesn't have even half (7) of the V20's features.
Anonymous, 13 Jun 2018Ok I get it. The US carrier locked Snapdragon s7 version only supports a single SIM but has de... moreI meant "the exynos international version S7 has hybrid dual sim so you can choose to have 2 sims and NO sd card or 1 sim and 1 sd card."
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018"And no, an FM radio hardware without Samsung software support to make it functional is not th... moreOk I get it. The US carrier locked Snapdragon s7 version only supports a single SIM but has dedicated SD card slot. It has US-only LTE bands and an FM radio hardware but no Samsung FM radio software. The international exynos s7 model is unlocked and has international LTE bands but no FM radio hardware at all. However, it has hybrid dual sim so you can choose to have 2 sims and an sd card or 1 sim and an sd card which you can't do on the US locked snapdragon version. Combine the two so you'll have the complete feature set of the V20 right? That's your argument. :)
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Explain till your heart's content, but a dedicated sd card slot in a dual sim phone is never g... more"And no, an FM radio hardware without Samsung software support to make it functional is not the same as having an FM radio."
You did not understand my point. the FM radio is enabled, if you buy the phone today from retail it will have it on the phone? It does not make it less of a feature if the FM radio was not enabled prior to the v20 release... your analogy is completely unrelated, and it seems to me you've full on committed to arguing on the SD card slot now rather than my other points.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018"You divert the topic by mentioning variants of the V20. I'm talking about the H990DS. Why, di... moreExplain till your heart's content, but a dedicated sd card slot in a dual sim phone is never going to be the same as a hybrid slot in a dual sim phone. Many Samsung, Huawei and Xiaomi users have damaged their hybrid slots because they are desperate in trying to fit 2 sims and an sd card in a phone which only has a hybrid slot. And no, an FM radio hardware without Samsung software support to make it functional is not the same as having an FM radio. You are like telling people a person with erectile dysfunction is the same as one without because they have the same hardware. :)
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018If there's anyone biased here it's you. You discount the V20's multitude of features as nothin... moreWhy are you avoiding my argument about the four core features (screen, battery life, camera, memory) and how the v20 fails at screen and battery life?
For the record I don't need or use ir blaster or fm radio on my phone, or dual SIM for that matter. My G4 had all these features, too, never used them. And my phone has a sd card slot so it's not like I can't expand the memory.
Lg' s marketing has somehow totally brainwashed you. It's not like the v20 is some expensive exclusive phone you know, anyone who wants one can have one. Me, like most people, don't want one because it's lacking in two of the four core features.
Edward, 12 Jun 2018Either wide angle or regular both look disgusting. I thought my hand was shaking but it's the ... moreYou bought the V20 for the selfie camera? No wonder you are disappointed. Buy a cheap Oppo or Vivo with multiple, high megapixel selfie cameras if you are obsessed with selfies. Otherwise, if you like the professional look of ultrawide shots (as contrasted to fake, amateur, panoramic stitching), the V20 should be without comparison. If you are getting low quality blurry photos all over from the V20, you probably have a defective unit with broken lens, etc. or you probably need to learn more about photography.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018It's amazing how you go on to great lengths still insisting the V20's features are irrelevant.... more"You divert the topic by mentioning variants of the V20. I'm talking about the H990DS. Why, did I ever mention the 'dual sim' of the V20 as an advantage over other flagships with single sim variants?"
If it's obvious you are talking about the international version of the v20, then it's not cheap. Bottom line is that claim you made about it's price point being low that is unique to the v20 a few posts ago is false -> "13. The V20 has a powerful processor but costs only half to 1/3 the price of current flagships. "
"You insist all sd card slots in any form (dedicated or hybrid) are the same. Well, they are not and they will never be the same."
The sd card point I made is to show that a phone having an SD card slot. whether hybrid or not, is not a unique selling point feature of the v20. If you feel the need to persist that a physical SD card slot designated as hybrid or dedicated is such a compelling difference to a user, then that's your business.
"FM radio that you can really play back and is not disabled"
The FM radio being software disabled until late 2016 doesn't change the fact that there is a physical FM radio unit in the phone... when explaining it as a feature what difference does it make that it was inaccessible before a software update up to a certain point in time?
The whole point of this was to show that there's a phone in the market released at the same time frame of the v20 that has at least half the features you claimed to be unique. Given that "unique" feature 13. is false now that you've mentioned you are explicitly comparing the international variant of the phone, the s7 already has at least half the features you described. Your feature list is overblown for a phone who's main value is in the fact that it kept some features dropped by the phone industry today.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018The V20's selfie camera is a native 5 megapixel f/1.9 ultrawide shooter. However, there are tw... moreEither wide angle or regular both look disgusting. I thought my hand was shaking but it's the same even with tripod. Looks painting, Unnatural alien.
The main camera produces natural colours but it's a hit or miss it overexpose specially during the day.
My friend mid range huawei produces more accurate colours.
I think the phone also have problem with display i can see gray patch at the right hand corner just below the always on screen.
I bought this last moth and im planning to return it. But they are going to charge me for restocking fee.
Sad i though t this phone was really nice . but the camera and display was a let down.
The sound was really good hands down. But im still not happy with my purchase a bit disappointment
Also, when you do selfie shots with the V20, be sure to move the 'beauty slider' fully to the left for 'level 0' blurring/beauty effect. Moving it fully to the right (maximum level 8 blurring) while making your face look smooth on a mobile phone or smaller screens, will actually make you look like an alien from outer space when the selfie shot with level 8 maximum beauty mode is viewed on a calibrated 4k computer monitor. This is probably what you are seeing in the V20 selfie shots.
Edward, 12 Jun 2018Is the front camera really looks bad? My face looks washed out and grainy even in outdoor. My... moreThe V20's selfie camera is a native 5 megapixel f/1.9 ultrawide shooter. However, there are two modes: regular wideangle and ultrawide angle. The 5 megapixel ultrawide will outperform your 2 megapixel camera phone anytime, anywhere, bright sunlight or low light unless you look at the output in a small mobile phone screen in which case, you won't notice much difference. The regular wideangle shot however may not be as good as tge ultrawide shit because it is simply a crop (digital zoom) of the ultrawide angle shot. If you do selfies with a large group, the V20's selfie camera will be good enough. However, if you like solo selfies more, then better look for 'portrait' selfie specialist camera phones that can do the job better.
Is the front camera really looks bad? My face looks washed out and grainy even in outdoor. My old 2 megapixel camera phone produces more vibrant capture. And other 5 megapixel camera looks way ahead night and day.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Yeah we get it, basically you're saying everything the v20 has is great, and everything it doe... moreIf there's anyone biased here it's you. You discount the V20's multitude of features as nothing special but state that 'wireless charging' is super convenient, waterproofing and Amoled screen is beyond compare to the V20's 'lowly' FM radio, ir blaster, shock resistance, slimport, dedicated sd card slot, etc which none of your s7 and all recent flagships have. When I retaliate by telling youbthe truth about amoleds, how its oversaturated inaccurate color is pleasing and how it has superior black level at the expense of permanent screen burn and reliability issues (pink/magenta bars), shorter life span than ips LCD, you cry like a baby. Well I tell you what: amoled is better than ips in the short term. You will never see its ugly side because you will never see it last long enough to compare it with ips displays that stand the test of time. But then again, the argument is immaterial. Amoled is popular in phones because many replace phones every year or two anyway. Microled is the future not amoled.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Bottomline, waterproofing like wireless charging is overhyped in today's 'modern' phones. They... moreYeah we get it, basically you're saying everything the v20 has is great, and everything it doesn't have is a useless gimmick, typical fanboy biased opinion. Like I said, if the V20 did have wireless charging then you'd be harping about how great wireless charging is, you're only against it because the v20 doesn't have it.
The fact that you even think the screen retention is acceptable on the basis that amoled is worse it just ridiculous. Why do you think all top tier phones use amoled and/or will be using amoled screens very soon? Because for phones it's better. Why do smartwatches also use amoled screens? Because in smartwatches it's better. I've had three phones with amoled screens and never had a problem. Sure I've believe there are cases of burn in but just like how you think "all phones with sealed batteries are disposable" you think all phones with amoled screens will suffer from burn in. Again not true. The only problem I've had with a screen in my phone was my LG and it's ever worsening screen retention and the 15" LG screen in my Macbook Pro retina also has the same problem but not as bad as the G4. Again, if the v20 had a amoled screen then you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs about how great and superior amoled screens are.
Can't you see just how bias you are?
The v20 is a great phone on paper because it's got this and this and that but then you go to the store and actually hold one and use it it's disappointing. Look at the core features most consumers look for: screen, battery life, camera, memory and the v20 only excels in two of those four core features (camera, memory). This is where the V20 fails, like it or not. Just because you can swap batteries doesn't make it acceptable to have bad battery life, either. The screen is just a screen, nothing special, can possibly develop LG's infamous screen retention and it's even dimmer than the G4's. How are you going to twist that into an advantage?
Bottomline, waterproofing like wireless charging is overhyped in today's 'modern' phones. They are nice to have but certainly, not better than removable batteries, dedicated sd card slots, drop resistance, ir blaster and FM radio.
I'd like to add: Don't buy those waterproofing V20 cases. Not only are they ugly, they also give you false hopes about true longterm waterproofing performance. The waterproofing protection they offer is no different from what ip68 waterproof phones can offer if the seals are not replaced regularly.
The truth about waterproofing:
Rubber seals need to be replaced regularly.
Phone should not be used under any shower: hot or cold shower, during swimming, or under running faucet water. Why? because manufacturer will not honor any form of water damage. Condensation can happen when water vapor leaks inside worn out seals and worse, circuit damage can happen especially since batteries in today's 'modern' phones are no longer removable. UV radiation from direct, reflected, or diffused sunlight and hot temperatures generated from wireless charging/fast charging accelerates damage/wear/oxidation to the seals making them shrink, crack, become brittle or leaky in as little as a few months to a year's time. Chlorinated water in a shower, faucet and swimming pool, and salt water at the beach does the same oxidation/accelerated wear to the seals making them brittle, cracked, shrunk and leaky. Bottom line: If you can't live without waterproofing in a phone, chances are are, you already have if you haven't replaced those waterproofing seals regularly. Besides, if you can live without waterproofing in a laptop, tablet, PSP, and other portable gaming consoles/gadgets/devices without waterproofing, there's no reason why you can't do the same with phones.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018It's amazing how you go on to great lengths still insisting the V20's features are irrelevant.... moreThose owners of phones with powerful processors instead of the widest operativity, disenchanted at last, don't hesitate to discredit the V20. Poor minds.