Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017So your main argument is the phone with the most features must also be the best phone which th... moreYes, one thing is certain that for many people are pleased with shinning plastics full of gimmicks without any real worth. So you surely would feel better in the IPhone / Samsung comment sections.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017So your main argument is the phone with the most features must also be the best phone which th... moreAt least you now get it. Yes, extensive features list alone do not sell especially to your average brand conscious, looks conscious, brand first, prestige first buyer. These buyers consider features/functions/substance secondary or even an unimportant criteria. How else do you explain why people still buy outrageously expensive iphones when an iphone doesn't even have dual sim, headphone jack, sd card support, has horrid file transfer capabilites, no water resistance, horrendous customizability, clunky, cluttered user interface which you can all do in a Samsung flagship? You mean to say iphone people consider all those as useless, unimportant features? NO. Let me explain marketing to you. If rich Hollywood celebrities and music artists endorse and use iphones over Samsung flagships, what message does that send the average buyer?That Samsung is truly the best? No amount of features will matter to the odinary buyer. The mere sight of the iphone logo alone and the satisfaction these buyers derive from the fact that their favorite Hollywood celebrities and singers use the same phone is enough reassurance for them that it is truly the best no matter what their geeky android neighbor with master's degree in computer science tell them. Why do rich people dine in ultra expensive restaurants and have ultra expensive Swiss watches. Because the food tastes 1000% more delicious and the ambiance is 1000% better? Because Swiss watches are 1000% more accurate and reliable in tracking time than cheap quartz watches? NO. It is because dining in a restaurant and owning a watch which 99.999% of the population can't own or afford is a statement in itself - that the person is not your ordinary next door neighbor.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I've already answered that question in the previous pages. But to make it simple, here's an a... moreSo your main argument is the phone with the most features must also be the best phone which the v20 has clearly demonstrated that features alone must not be everything. You are also trying very hard to elongate your list of v20 features by including "USB C" as a feature. USB C is a standard, not a feature. Then there are two mainstream features the v20 is missing which are pretty widespread and possibly even more appealing than having an IR Blaster or FM Radio, and that's waterproofing and wireless charging. Again, I expect you to reply saying those two features are useless and not necessary for you therefore must not be necessary for anyone, right? Then there are the other things that are not features, such as aesthetics, design, build quality, and just overall user experience which again may not be important to you who just cares about features, but in fact these things are very important to most consumers.
Trying to blame other companies with bigger marketing budgets for brainwashing consumers also doesn't add up as there are other companies with minuscule budgets that have launched widely successful phones. LG is no small company either, don't forget they also spend tens or even hundreds of million dollars annually on marketing and pretty much all the carriers carry and sell their phones on plans, including the v20. It's not about brainwashing because In the end, people want to buy a product that they like and will make them the happy. The car market is exactly the same, you can have a car that cost 15,000 with more features than a car that's selling for 20,000 so why do people still buy the 20,000 car? Maybe the 20,000 car has better quality or maybe the 20,000 car gets better fuel milage than 15,000 car, who knows. There are a lot of reasons but one thing is certain, and that's more features alone doesn't make one product better than another and the v20 is a perfect example of that. So please, please stop rambling on and on about features and specs, it's not everything although it may just be everything to you.
How is the battery life (SOT)? What about boot loops? XDA has a news article where they claim that V20 was also added to boot loop lawsuit against LG.
I've tried many android phones, Samsung's europa, s3, s5, HTC desire, one m7, Sony Xperia several models, and Xiaomi's redmi note 2 prime which was better than the fore mentioned brand's, but have recently got this LG V20 and i have to say its not the fastest or best flagship phone but its the best of the snapdragon 820,821 phones, the camera is very good and the sound recording is bang on and for the non usa models it had fm radio. What I will say is that for the price you get top camera and quad dac sound with other great features ( oh i got my phone for under £265 new )
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer ... moreI've already answered that question in the previous pages. But to make it simple, here's an analogy: Curvy Samsung flagships are like flashy, gold plated, gem studded nail cutters while the LG V20 is like a plain stainless steel Swiss army knife which just happens to also have a nail clipper. It also helps that the flashy, gold plated, gem studded nail cutters are being promoted by rich celebrities and advertised heavily on tv, print media and billboards while the lowly Swiss army knife is being promoted by a geeky promo boy talking technical gibberish to ordinary shoppers at a department store. Which of the two do you think will sell more?
I'd like to throw back the question to you:
If Android OS is superior to IOS and flagship Android phones have a lot more features than any iphone in existence (dual sim, sd card, more RAM, better amoled high resolution screen, Octa or deca-core processor, higher battery capacity, etc.), why do iphones still sell more than even ALL of the android flagships from various manufacturers combined?
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer ... moreThe real reason why it didn't sweep the market was because many people added at the brainwashed by propaganda the frivolous behaviour.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017You are dead wrong. Huawei flagships don't have FM radio, don't have removable battery, don't ... moreI am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer the same questions I've had all along but you've avoided and that is...
If the v20 is the best phone on the planet as you seem to paint it to be, why don't you see people with them everywhere? Why didn't it sell more than competitors? Is everyone who didn't buy a v20 wrong to have bought whatever other phone it is that they bought? After the Note 7 recall you would have thought the v20 would have been a home run with the competition out of the game, but that wasn't the case.
Despite the v20's impressive long list of features, and a price that sunk faster than the Titanic it still wasn't super successful. Please enlighten me why. There must be a reason why it didn't sweep the market.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017The G4, G5, and v10 also have most of the features you talk about as do a lot of Huawei phones... moreYou are dead wrong. Huawei flagships don't have FM radio, don't have removable battery, don't have dedicated SD card slot (they have hybrid slots so you sacrifice either the dual sim or sd card functionality), don't have slimport support, don't have Quad DAC audio, don't have drop protection, don't have a multipage second screen you can swipe where you have quick access to shortcuts, tools, apps and favorite contacts, etc. Huawei flagships have IR blasters but they are not capable of 'learn' mode which is so important as it leaves NO REMOTE that you can't clone/copy even if it is some obscure brand of aircon, tv, cable/set top box, etc. That's a lot of missing features for users and far from what you claim.
Previous LG phones? OK, let me lecture you: The G4 only has 32 GB internal memory, has NO dual SIM, NO dual camera, NO USB C, NO fingerprint sensor, No second screen, No drop protection and has bootloop issues with some units like your ill-fated G4. It also has an older 20nm less efficient processor which does not help the smaller battery.
The G5? Almost the same as the G4: only 32 GB internal memory, NO dedicated SD card slot, NO second screen and NO drop protection. It also has a significantly smaller screen (not in the same category as the V20) and a much smaller battery.
The V10? It is the closest as it is the V20's immediate predecessor but still, it is inferior with an older less efficient 20nm processor, NO USB C, NO dual rear camera and a smaller battery.
So NO. None of the phones you mentioned have almost the same complete feature set as the V20. Any more phone suggestions from your favorite Samsung brand? I'm all ears.
And dont forget useless edge screen on samsungs. Cant really protect the edge with a tempered glass. Cant type properly without touching edge screen. It takes up usefull screen area at the edges. I sold my s7 edge primarily for that reason. Now I see v30 has edge screen too what a shame.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017My phone isn't perfect nor is it the best and I can accept that. It's you who is blowing your ... moreThe matter is that many people don't claim that the V20 is the best but of course is the most complete about working functions.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017You don't want to accept that you have wasted your money on an inferior planned obsolescence p... moreMy phone isn't perfect nor is it the best and I can accept that. It's you who is blowing your horn that the v20 is supposedly the best phone in the world without flaws or cons, and that is simply not true. You boost about features you can't even use at the moment (such as support for 2tb cards that don't even exist yet). You see it as a perfect phone and there is no such thing.
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2017Yup just keep blabbing on and on whatever it takes to validate your purchase decision.
The ... moreYou don't want to accept that you have wasted your money on an inferior planned obsolescence phone. The truth hurts you, so you're trying to validate your purchase decision.
You should read my comment again instead of repeating the same arguments, because I've already written the facts in my previous comment. You couldn't make any new argument. I've already addressed all of your points.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017Those who visit the V20 comments section are seriously contemplating on whether to buy the V20... moreIf the V20 is your first LG, it's better to you be specially a young person to recognise that is better a totally equipped unit than the last model launched with the latest technological "birds".
[deleted post]The G4, G5, and v10 also have most of the features you talk about as do a lot of Huawei phones.
That's why I emphasize the DAC and video/camera and audio recording are truly the standout features and are the real reason anyone should buy a v20, if you are not into those three things then there are other options out there. The v20 is not "battery powerhouse", just look at all the users on xda forums disappointed with the v20's battery life. The gsmarena review also suggests sub-par battery life.
It is ridiculous to think the v20 has no flaws. EVERY phone has flaws.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017It is really quite easy to correct lags in android phones. Even cheap phones with entry level... moreYou should just go back to the Samsung forum. Those who came here are looking for a phone with exactly those features absent in a Samsung flagship (ir blaster, fm radio, dedicated sd card, removable battery, etc). The V20 is for those who demand their phone to be everything they want it to be: remote controller, battery powerhouse, FM radio, storage powerhouse, etc. If they have no value to you, you shouldn't spend more time here than in the Samsung forum. Unless if you have an axe to grind because your are bitter with LG because of your bootlooping G4. To sum up, a Samsung flagship is like a good flashy nail cutter. TheLG V20 is like a good Swiss army knife. It is not for everybody. It is for those who want their phone to be everything to them.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Please stop force feeding everyone what you think. If it's so great then WHY isn't it in the ... moreThose who visit the V20 comments section are seriously contemplating on whether to buy the V20 or not. I'm a happy or should I say, ecstatic owner. That doesn't mean other owners will be happy because yes, the V20 is not for all users. Android phones are not for all users. Those who complain lagging in a flagship phone regardless of whether it is the V20 or a Samsung or other phone deserve to know the probable causes and that the brand name is immaterial, more so when you have a flagship processor running on a phone. I know you had a bad experience with a bootlooping G4 but that doesn't mean you and other bitter former LG users have the privelege to come here and criticize all LG phones. As I said, this is my first LG phone. It is not wrong to correct misconceptions about specific problems (example lagging) as specific to brand alone. You get the same comments at the Samsung comments forum. You'll be better off defending Samsung there than being bitter of the LG brand here.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Please stop force feeding everyone what you think. If it's so great then WHY isn't it in the ... moreAt present for people who want DAC, camera and /or video & audio recording, another LG options are available, without being suffering the V20 complete possibilities and for they backwardness.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017I have none of the issues you mentioned. You may need to check and disable draw over other app... morePlease stop force feeding everyone what you think. If it's so great then WHY isn't it in the #1 phone on this website? If it's so great WHY isn't this forum super busy with activity? If it's so great then WHY hasn't everyone gone out and bought one because the v20 is so cheap but with so many features?
It's a phone, it has pros and cons just like every other phone. And then there's the intangible overall user experience that no feature set can save if it's not good. I for one don't need an FM radio, IR blaster or my SD Card slot to recognize 2TB cards that don't even exist yet. For me screen quality, battery life, and camera are what is important and the v20's battery life or screen can't touch a Samsung, period.
The v20 is best suited for people who need the DAC, camera and/or audio recording. Everything else is just "so so" or very "average" about it despite the elaborate fantastic picture you're trying to paint.