Anonymous, 30 Sep 2017and the secondary display of the v20 isn't a gimmick? (hint: it is)Personally I think it is really useful as it gives all info and controls on a ticker tape at the top. But horses for courses I suppose.
Essentially a great phone, although I bought for sound quality. Which is just amazing. Betters some of my HiFi components. And you can purchase for £280, which is a bargain. Only downside is a so so battery.
Great to finally see a v20 security update in the last few days bringing the patch level to September!
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2017It isn't if you use it other than for your name. You actually have 6 pages in all. You can s... more"When you are busy with an app or reading news . . . " written in your own language explains my thoughts better than me, an old man living in a residence with the suitable phone to manage the air. con. and the tv. autonomically, adding the awesome sound capability to listen music.
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2017and the secondary display of the v20 isn't a gimmick? (hint: it is)It isn't if you use it other than for your name. You actually have 6 pages in all. You can swipe from page 1 to 6. As for me, I only use 3 pages (3 swipes) since swiping more than that defeats the purpose of convenience. The first screen has my flag and signature, the second contains my most used apps and the third is a blank screen when I don't want anything displayed (Ex. I swipe to page 3 when I'm with strangers). Sometimes I add a fourth screen for my most used contacts. That is during screen on. For screen off/sleep mode, I configure the second screen to display the date, time and battery percentage. That way, I don't have to turn on the screen to check the date, time and battery level or if there is any text message or notification (the V20 does not have LED notification). I set the second screen to always on when the main screen is off. However, you can configure the second screen to turn off from say 10PM to 6AM but I don't do it since it consumes negligible battery power anyway. When you are busy with an app or reading news, and you receive a call or text message, it gets displayed in the second screen. Really nice feature as it won't cover what you were reading or doing. You can answer calls and read and answer texts from the second screen with minimal disturbance/covering up of the main screen. Really nice feature. Will miss it if I upgrade to another phone but I guess l can live without it: not so without an IR blaster, FM radio or a sealed 4000mAh or higher battery or a removable battery if less than 4000mAh capacity.
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2017You two are both ridiculous and halirious. What phone did you own before the v20? Let me gue... moreLet me answer: No, No, draw, No. The V30 has almost all the features of the V20 except for the second screen, non-removable battery, ir blaster and slimport support. It likely has slimport support since all previous LG flagship phones have slimport support. That leaves it with three deficiencies: second screen, really convenient but not a deal breaker for me; non-removable battery: my last 3 phones had sealed 4000mAh or higher battery capacities so no, I cannot accept bringing a bulky charger or power bank daily. IR blaster - seriously a deal breaker for me. From the moment I wake up, I use the ir blaster to turn off the air conditioning, Turn on the tv and cable box, turn on the car stereo, and turn on workplace large screen monitor, etc. Can't tolerate the inconvenience without it. In exchange for the deficiencies, the V30 has the following features not found in the V20: larger screen, more powerful, more energy efficient processor, 128gb internal storage option, water resistance and better looks. Does it make the phone better than the V20? Overall, I'd say it's a draw.
You two are both ridiculous and halirious. What phone did you own before the v20? Let me guess that was also the best phone? And the phone before that, also the best? Right? And if your next phone is a Xiaomi Mi7 you'll be blowing your horn that that's the best phone, sure. Why do you need to self validate that your phones are the best?
Let me guess, the v20 is even better than the v30 right? So have you guys each bought an extra v20 to keep as a backup or are you seriously just all talk?
This forum is awfully quiet for the best phone ever made, but I suppose you have an explanation for that, too.
Taking mine back and going back to samsung only have owned this phone for 2 days and already having problems like i have in the past with the g3 and g4 wanted to give lg another shot but very displeased with it
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017So your main argument is the phone with the most features must also be the best phone which th... moreYes, one thing is certain that for many people are pleased with shinning plastics full of gimmicks without any real worth. So you surely would feel better in the IPhone / Samsung comment sections.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017So your main argument is the phone with the most features must also be the best phone which th... moreAt least you now get it. Yes, extensive features list alone do not sell especially to your average brand conscious, looks conscious, brand first, prestige first buyer. These buyers consider features/functions/substance secondary or even an unimportant criteria. How else do you explain why people still buy outrageously expensive iphones when an iphone doesn't even have dual sim, headphone jack, sd card support, has horrid file transfer capabilites, no water resistance, horrendous customizability, clunky, cluttered user interface which you can all do in a Samsung flagship? You mean to say iphone people consider all those as useless, unimportant features? NO. Let me explain marketing to you. If rich Hollywood celebrities and music artists endorse and use iphones over Samsung flagships, what message does that send the average buyer?That Samsung is truly the best? No amount of features will matter to the odinary buyer. The mere sight of the iphone logo alone and the satisfaction these buyers derive from the fact that their favorite Hollywood celebrities and singers use the same phone is enough reassurance for them that it is truly the best no matter what their geeky android neighbor with master's degree in computer science tell them. Why do rich people dine in ultra expensive restaurants and have ultra expensive Swiss watches. Because the food tastes 1000% more delicious and the ambiance is 1000% better? Because Swiss watches are 1000% more accurate and reliable in tracking time than cheap quartz watches? NO. It is because dining in a restaurant and owning a watch which 99.999% of the population can't own or afford is a statement in itself - that the person is not your ordinary next door neighbor.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I've already answered that question in the previous pages. But to make it simple, here's an a... moreSo your main argument is the phone with the most features must also be the best phone which the v20 has clearly demonstrated that features alone must not be everything. You are also trying very hard to elongate your list of v20 features by including "USB C" as a feature. USB C is a standard, not a feature. Then there are two mainstream features the v20 is missing which are pretty widespread and possibly even more appealing than having an IR Blaster or FM Radio, and that's waterproofing and wireless charging. Again, I expect you to reply saying those two features are useless and not necessary for you therefore must not be necessary for anyone, right? Then there are the other things that are not features, such as aesthetics, design, build quality, and just overall user experience which again may not be important to you who just cares about features, but in fact these things are very important to most consumers.
Trying to blame other companies with bigger marketing budgets for brainwashing consumers also doesn't add up as there are other companies with minuscule budgets that have launched widely successful phones. LG is no small company either, don't forget they also spend tens or even hundreds of million dollars annually on marketing and pretty much all the carriers carry and sell their phones on plans, including the v20. It's not about brainwashing because In the end, people want to buy a product that they like and will make them the happy. The car market is exactly the same, you can have a car that cost 15,000 with more features than a car that's selling for 20,000 so why do people still buy the 20,000 car? Maybe the 20,000 car has better quality or maybe the 20,000 car gets better fuel milage than 15,000 car, who knows. There are a lot of reasons but one thing is certain, and that's more features alone doesn't make one product better than another and the v20 is a perfect example of that. So please, please stop rambling on and on about features and specs, it's not everything although it may just be everything to you.
How is the battery life (SOT)? What about boot loops? XDA has a news article where they claim that V20 was also added to boot loop lawsuit against LG.
I've tried many android phones, Samsung's europa, s3, s5, HTC desire, one m7, Sony Xperia several models, and Xiaomi's redmi note 2 prime which was better than the fore mentioned brand's, but have recently got this LG V20 and i have to say its not the fastest or best flagship phone but its the best of the snapdragon 820,821 phones, the camera is very good and the sound recording is bang on and for the non usa models it had fm radio. What I will say is that for the price you get top camera and quad dac sound with other great features ( oh i got my phone for under £265 new )
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer ... moreI've already answered that question in the previous pages. But to make it simple, here's an analogy: Curvy Samsung flagships are like flashy, gold plated, gem studded nail cutters while the LG V20 is like a plain stainless steel Swiss army knife which just happens to also have a nail clipper. It also helps that the flashy, gold plated, gem studded nail cutters are being promoted by rich celebrities and advertised heavily on tv, print media and billboards while the lowly Swiss army knife is being promoted by a geeky promo boy talking technical gibberish to ordinary shoppers at a department store. Which of the two do you think will sell more?
I'd like to throw back the question to you:
If Android OS is superior to IOS and flagship Android phones have a lot more features than any iphone in existence (dual sim, sd card, more RAM, better amoled high resolution screen, Octa or deca-core processor, higher battery capacity, etc.), why do iphones still sell more than even ALL of the android flagships from various manufacturers combined?
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer ... moreThe real reason why it didn't sweep the market was because many people added at the brainwashed by propaganda the frivolous behaviour.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017You are dead wrong. Huawei flagships don't have FM radio, don't have removable battery, don't ... moreI am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer the same questions I've had all along but you've avoided and that is...
If the v20 is the best phone on the planet as you seem to paint it to be, why don't you see people with them everywhere? Why didn't it sell more than competitors? Is everyone who didn't buy a v20 wrong to have bought whatever other phone it is that they bought? After the Note 7 recall you would have thought the v20 would have been a home run with the competition out of the game, but that wasn't the case.
Despite the v20's impressive long list of features, and a price that sunk faster than the Titanic it still wasn't super successful. Please enlighten me why. There must be a reason why it didn't sweep the market.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017The G4, G5, and v10 also have most of the features you talk about as do a lot of Huawei phones... moreYou are dead wrong. Huawei flagships don't have FM radio, don't have removable battery, don't have dedicated SD card slot (they have hybrid slots so you sacrifice either the dual sim or sd card functionality), don't have slimport support, don't have Quad DAC audio, don't have drop protection, don't have a multipage second screen you can swipe where you have quick access to shortcuts, tools, apps and favorite contacts, etc. Huawei flagships have IR blasters but they are not capable of 'learn' mode which is so important as it leaves NO REMOTE that you can't clone/copy even if it is some obscure brand of aircon, tv, cable/set top box, etc. That's a lot of missing features for users and far from what you claim.
Previous LG phones? OK, let me lecture you: The G4 only has 32 GB internal memory, has NO dual SIM, NO dual camera, NO USB C, NO fingerprint sensor, No second screen, No drop protection and has bootloop issues with some units like your ill-fated G4. It also has an older 20nm less efficient processor which does not help the smaller battery.
The G5? Almost the same as the G4: only 32 GB internal memory, NO dedicated SD card slot, NO second screen and NO drop protection. It also has a significantly smaller screen (not in the same category as the V20) and a much smaller battery.
The V10? It is the closest as it is the V20's immediate predecessor but still, it is inferior with an older less efficient 20nm processor, NO USB C, NO dual rear camera and a smaller battery.
So NO. None of the phones you mentioned have almost the same complete feature set as the V20. Any more phone suggestions from your favorite Samsung brand? I'm all ears.
And dont forget useless edge screen on samsungs. Cant really protect the edge with a tempered glass. Cant type properly without touching edge screen. It takes up usefull screen area at the edges. I sold my s7 edge primarily for that reason. Now I see v30 has edge screen too what a shame.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017My phone isn't perfect nor is it the best and I can accept that. It's you who is blowing your ... moreThe matter is that many people don't claim that the V20 is the best but of course is the most complete about working functions.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017You don't want to accept that you have wasted your money on an inferior planned obsolescence p... moreMy phone isn't perfect nor is it the best and I can accept that. It's you who is blowing your horn that the v20 is supposedly the best phone in the world without flaws or cons, and that is simply not true. You boost about features you can't even use at the moment (such as support for 2tb cards that don't even exist yet). You see it as a perfect phone and there is no such thing.