Anonymous, 23 Jan 2018That's really misleading saying it's going to last a very long time as that's your opinion and... moreThere's still plenty of people who can't afford to upgrade to a new phone therefore there's still many older LG phones being used as well as other brands too. Widespread use is a little exaggeration on your behalf but nevertheless there's still many older phones being used despite many people having new toys. I don't see everyone running around with a new iPhone X but from the time it came out I seen like 3 people with it and that's it. The rest are older iPhone users such as 5's,6's, 7's etc. I even seen one user with a 3 but that is rare and it was some time ago. Regarding Samsungs, I seen the S8's/Note8's more frequently, more than the IPhone X however I usually see S7's all day among other cheap phones and of course the already mentioned iPhones. Regarding LG forum activity, there is indeed some on xda.
Rimac , 24 Jan 2018I suggest you the use of a 10.500 mAh battery to enhance both, their long lasting and your fee... moreI don't know so I will ask you if you currently own a V20 and if so, do you have this 10,500mAh battery?
If so, what is the name of it and how long do you have it and how is it working out for you?
Can you check how long is your SOT time as well?
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018Lol you bought two of these so 5 years from now you'll still be on 4g using nougat 7.0 getting... moreAnd stop talking about 5G technology. Do you honestly need 10,000 Megabits per second in a mobile phone just to watch HD youtube videos, and browse Facebook photos? And can you even see the difference between 720p and 4K in a mobile phone display? 4G+ LTE advanced's theoretical maximum of 1,000 Megabits per second is not enough? Heck even 3G's 20 megabits per second is already fast enough if network providers truly deliver speeds close to it. Your argument is like 'phones with 4G+ will become obsolete and useless in 4 years time because people will no longer text four years from now and everybody will be video calling each other in 8K resolution and 240 frames per second! Hello! in a 5-6" screen? You sound more and more ridiculous the more you talk. You might as well go back to the Samsung forum and promote your S7's virtues there than criticize LG phones just because you hated how LG handled your bootlooping G4.
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018Welcome to the V20 club!
I also initially found the absence of a led indicator light in the V... moreThank you for your warm welcome.
Can I ask you a few questions regarding your V20?
Which android you got and what is your security patch and are you rooted or not?
I believe I'm going to have to root mine since some apps I use require root.
Also, have you tested the SOT time with main screen on and 2nd screen off and vice versa?
I'm getting almost 7H that is 6H & 45min & I'm quite a intensive user but I don't have unnecessary bs on like Bluetooth, location or nfc etc.
Your comment with the battery & time on 2nd screen instead of the notification led got me thinking about not turning the main screen on to check the above as well but is it worth the battery drain since I know always on display on Samsungs does drain the battery more significantly then just checking the main screen.
Oh and one more thing, I do miss the power button on the side lol. - I do have the knock on enabled but it's a different matter if I don't want to pickup the phone and turn the screen off.
AnonD-680950, 24 Jan 2018any burn screen/ ghost screen issues so far?None that is permanent like what happens in Amoleds.
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018Lol you bought two of these so 5 years from now you'll still be on 4g using nougat 7.0 getting... moreDo you have any new arguments? Like how your Samsung with sealead batteries and fragile curved screen could be better than the V20? And stop talking about the cheap battery replacement of iphones when you can buy four brand new LG V20's for the price of one iPhone X. And $30 for battery replacement? That's highway robbery! Original OEM LG V20 batteries cost one third of that - $10! And $30 will get you the original LG V20 external charger accessory WITH an LG V20 OEM battery (model BCK 5200). Do a Google search and you'll see those are regular retail prices. You can actually get both for much less than those SRP prices - and we're not even talking about generic, non OEM batteries yet!
XX.XX, 24 Jan 2018I just bought a new LG V20 and I'm quite a intensive user yet I was amazed at the 6H 45 min SO... moreI suggest you the use of a 10.500 mAh battery to enhance both, their long lasting and your feel about it.
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018Read my previous posts again. I EXPLICITLY STATED, factory defects, abuse or misuse NOT INCLUD... moreLol you bought two of these so 5 years from now you'll still be on 4g using nougat 7.0 getting 4 hrs SOT while everyone else will be on 5-6g using Android S/T getting 8-10 hrs SOT and you're saying checkmate as if you're the winner in all of this?
I CAN understand someone buying a v20 and getting a couple years of use out of it, but you bought two. You might not regret it now, but maybe 2 years from now you will. Did you buy two crt tv's at a deep discount just before flatscreens went mainstream, too?
If manufacturers follow Apple's suit then hopefully it will become the norm that people with sealed batteries can get them replaced for around $30 then the argument over sealed and user replaceable batteries is finished. You know how much a replacement v20 battery is on LG's US website? $40!!! And Apple's doing replacements for $29 now so who's ripping who off?
NewV20isgood, 24 Jan 2018I just bought a new V20 dual sim H990DS for £260 after my Samsung Note 4 motherboard fai... moreWelcome to the V20 club!
I also initially found the absence of a led indicator light in the V20 an annoying design lapse. However I've learned to live without it using the second screen. My second screen is set to display battery percentage and date and time when the main screen is off. No need to turn on main screen to see battery percentage, date or time. It also displays message icons and missed call icons if there are any unread messages or missed calls. Not as visible from afar as led lights but I realized it offered more info than just led lights making the absence of led indicators more than compensated for. When main screen is on, my 2nd screen displays signature (though I usually just place emojis and holiday greetings as signature), also app shortcuts on first swipe, and blank screen on the next swipe. It is such a convenience not having to turn on the main screen every time when you just need to know what the date, time and battery percentage is. I'll definitely miss it if I upgrade to another phone without it.
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018All ridiculous once again.
The number one reason why phones go into service centers is dama... moreI just bought a new LG V20 and I'm quite a intensive user yet I was amazed at the 6H 45 min SOT of my new toy and I'm running stock 7.0 nougat.
I also don't have any unnecessary bs running like Bluetooth, nfc, location etc. that would drain my battery in the first place.
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018All ridiculous once again.
The number one reason why phones go into service centers is dama... moreRead my previous posts again. I EXPLICITLY STATED, factory defects, abuse or misuse NOT INCLUDED. That includes accidental drops and/or accidental mishandling! Drop resistance is another benefit of the V20 but I excluded it because any person who properly cares for his phone, will NOT have broken screen problems.
So, anything more to argue or is it checkmate?
I belong to a comparatively backward world region but it's possible to learn a lot in a forum with top level participants.
Thanks to everyone of them.
Anonymous, 24 Jan 2018Believe what you want to believe in. It's up to you to believe your 'ALTERNATIVE FACTS' when c... moreAll ridiculous once again.
The number one reason why phones go into service centers is damaged from being dropped. If sealed batteries are the nightmare you make them out to be then people really wouldn't buy them, manufacturers would have listened, and LG would have sold A LOT of v20's. None of which happened.
Have fun 2-3 years from now phones will be getting 8 to 10 hours screen-on time while you're on your v20 struggling to break 4 hours.
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2018It's your opinion and 2 years from now you and Rimac will probably be the only two people usin... moreBelieve what you want to believe in. It's up to you to believe your 'ALTERNATIVE FACTS' when clearly there are NONE. What I stated are FACTS culled from SERVICE CENTERS. The top notch #1 phone killer is dead battery/bloated battery/rapidly discharging battery closely followed by the other four. Wireless charging does not solve it. Heck, I had a Nexus 7 2013 with damaged usb port it won't charge. Had to charge it wirelessly overnight and still is not 100% full by morning. It got worse as time went by because if you don't know already, wireless charging ACCELERATES battery wear due to inefficiency which means MORE heat generated for LONGER time than regular USB charging. In the end, the rapid battery discharge of my Nexus was not helped by wireless charging. In FACT, wireless charging worsened it. So STOP bragging about WIRELESS CHARGING that does not help and worse, accelerates battery wear more than regular usb charging.
AnonD-732642, 23 Jan 2018Should i buy this phone in this year 2018?is it good for gaming?and what the problem it can be... moreI just bought a new V20 dual sim H990DS for £260 after my Samsung Note 4 motherboard failed after 4 years of use. I still love my Note 4 and I plan on fixing it myself, not for £150 like mobile repair shop wished to charge me but for around £50 since I seen mobo prices online.
I have to say this V20 is like the note 4's big brother. (but not in all aspects)
1st of all the negatives are that there is no notification led light which I grown much accustomed to plus I miss the high brightness on a low setting of the note 4's amoled screen vs the dark ips LCD screen of V20. 50% brightness of V20 is like 20-25% of Note 4. And to be honest I turned off the V20's 2nd screen because it's actually pointless. Hence why I like the notification led and in reality this phone could easily have a 5.9 or exactly 6.0 inch screen and it would be the enough for anyone or the perfect maximum.
2nd of all I chose this V20 because it has dual sims which I always wanted and the dedicated microsd slot is very rarely seen. Let me say that again, dedicated, so 3 slots in total.
3rd is battery is removable just like in the note 4 but it's 3200mAh vs 3220mAh (marginal difference which really doesn't matter).
4. IR blaster is very useful and both have it.
5. FM Radio is also very convenient which note 4 doesn't have and I always wanted.
6. The quad DAC's performance is something I have yet to test but I believe it's on par if not better than the Note 4's audio performance of which I can surely say was superb.
7. The dual camera has proved itself to me that it blows the note 4 single cam and its dark aperture in the dust.
8. I couldn't bare looking at phones with micro-USB ports anymore and the reversible USB-C in the V20 is a very big convenience and a hassle free cable plugging experience, plus the included flat charging/data cable is very nice & strong.
9. Finally, the phone is slimmer in width vs note 4 yet its 1mm thinner as well therefore its nice to hold this phone in my hand and I hate the bezels on the note 4 and it's width but I managed to use it with one hand anyway.
Only The Huawei mate 10 comes close to these two above and is the new kid on the block but the battery's sealed and non-removable if something ever goes wrong or if you just want piece of mind that your phone is truly 100% off with the battery pulled out.
In conclusion, get this phone. It's probably the last ever all in one best built phone ever made after the Note 4 and as a bonus it's military grade spec for shock with the 810G rating.
You'll enjoy it.
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2018It's not an opinion. It's FACTS. Phones that HAVE NO factory defects and that are NOT abused o... moreIt's your opinion and 2 years from now you and Rimac will probably be the only two people using one.
Newer phones have wireless charging which allow them to charge without using the port. And the v20's ips screen can suffer from LG's patented screen retention problem which actually gets worse with time. If your screen is starting to show this problem then 18 months later the retention is going to get so bad and noticeable. The only way to avoid it is use the phone lightly so it doesnt heat up (which means no camera and no games)
Again SD cards are not exclusive to the v20, a lot of phones take them and 2tb cards don't even exist yet and when they do you'll not be buying one because if you can afford a 2tb sd card then you could have afforded to buy a better phone. Remember the real reason why you bought the v20 in the first place, and that's because of the cheap price.
Finally don't expect anymore updates for this phone so I hope you're comfortable with using Android 7.0 for the next 5 years. Third party roms might come out but they'll have bugs and poor optimization and again, no support.
Congratulations you have the 5.7 phone with the biggest bezels but now you're going to tell me that's a feature which makes it easier to hold.
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2018That's really misleading saying it's going to last a very long time as that's your opinion and... moreIt's not an opinion. It's FACTS. Phones that HAVE NO factory defects and that are NOT abused or misused die primarily through any of the 5 MECHANISMS OF PHONE DEATH if you didn't know already. They are usually the first phone components to give up and call it quits. 1. dead screen 2. dead battery 3. damaged usb charging and 4. corrupted internal storage/severe internal storage wear causing extreme slowness/unresponsiveness and 5. damaged SIM contacts causing 'No network' problem. The LG V20 has 1. longer lasting IPS display vs the other flagships AMOLEDS. 2. V20 has removable battery which you can easily replace when dead. Other flagships don't. 3. V20 battery can be charged externally using external charger if usb port is damaged/loosened and won't charge. Other flagships cannot have external charging of batteries (non removable). 4. V20 has dedicated sd slot. By using internal memory only for critical apps and storing voluminous media on sd card, there is less wear on internal storage, less full internal storage, causing less wear and longer life. Just replace sd card when damaged/slowed through repeated read/write or when always operating at full capacity. 5. V20 has dual sim slots, 2 dedicated ones. Other flagships have hybrid sim/sd slots. If you damage sim 1, the LG still has sim 2 AND still has SD CARD storage availabe.
AnonD-732642, 23 Jan 2018Should i buy this phone in this year 2018?is it good for gaming?and what the problem it can be... moreYes, it is "good" for gaming. But the main feature or where the V20 excels is in photo/video department. When it was released, the phone that can go on par with it is the Mate 9, even iPhones are way behind. If buying it in 2018 is your idea and you would use it for gaming, it is acceptable, but if you have the money, go for latest flagship phones. The idea here is, LG V series are for filming, the 'V' states video. V30 is the greatest phone currently in the market in terms of (VIDEO), mate 10 can go on par with this and the pixel 2 too (which is a great phone btw). And I used them already, would still stick with the manual capabilities of V30.