Anonymous, 22 Jan 2018You seriously think you're seeing less on the new 18:9 displays? Listen, it's simply your tra... moreGeez its pointless explaining things to you. You come up with new interpretations that are far fetched. I don't expect 16:9 to last. Neither will 18:9. After 18:9, another aspect ratio will surface because manufacturers always want something new to justify yearly upgrades. It's all in the name of continued sales and profit. Pushing updates meant to make phones obsolete looking even in exterior looks only. They are good at it.
In a recent statement the CEO of LG informed that new models will not be released every year, but when it is appropriate. Wise words.
Two years ago, as in a favorable astral conjuncion, the R+D department of LG improved the V10, as in an anticipation of the productive policy declared by the CEO.
If this is the case, LG will be a precursor.
Anonymous, 22 Jan 2018No, no and no.
1. NarrowView 18:9 displays allow you to see less, not more. Less total area ... moreYou seriously think you're seeing less on the new 18:9 displays? Listen, it's simply your traditional 16:9 expanded up and down to fill where the top and bottom bezels would be to make 18:9. They are still 1440 pixels wide. Text wrapping doesn't change. Websites display exactly the same as they would on a 16:9 display just you get to see more at the bottom hence less scrolling.
The only person who is seeing the least is you because you've also got soft keys taking up the bottom of your screen.
And no, in developed countries most people don't use dual sims because in developed countries phones are cheap but service is expensive. Most of us here get country wide calling so it doesn't matter where we are in the country the rates are the same. I know in developing countries it's not like this hence why dual sims might be more useful there especially if you live in one province and work in another.
Next your going to tell me how the overly wide angles lens camera on the back is the best and most useful in the world.
Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018The only thing LG has proven with the v20 is that the phone with the most features isn't necce... more2K (QHD) screens are still pointless in phones. It still wastes the GPU performance and battery life. This is fact, and it can't be dismissed. V20 would be even better with 1080p screen, but LG couldn't afford to do it, because in that case the reviewers and people would have complained and V20 would have been much less popular, because unfortunately the majority of people want QHD.
However, LG V20 has another unique and useful feature: you have an option to reudce the screen resolution and/or framerate in games! It is called "Game Battery Saver". So you can play even at 720p. It solves the QHD problem.
Ahmed, 21 Jan 2018Other than average battery life i didn't find any downside in V20. Excellent camera setup , br... moreSince there are available in the market batteries with the following mAh : 3.500, 6.400, 9.400, 10.000 and 10.500., the only inconvenience to the V20 are solved according your use needs.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 20181)"narrow view" 18:9 screens allow you to see more of a site or feeds at one time which means ... moreNo, no and no.
1. NarrowView 18:9 displays allow you to see less, not more. Less total area for the same screen diagonal (fact) , smaller photos (fact), smaller videos which are still mostly 16:9 by the way (fact) and leaving big, wasted black bars top and bottom or left and right for MOST other apps, MOST of the time (fact). Narrow width means earlier word wrap. Therefore, more scrolling (fact). You can zoom to fit and you get chopped off heads and lower portions of the body. You probably like that so good for you. And no, don't compare 4:3 and 16:9 with stupid 18:9 NarrowView displays. The 4:3 served real purpose in spacious website browsing/reading whether in portrait or landscape mode while the 16:9 in movies without compromising too much on photo viewing and reading. The 18:9? It was created just so users upgrade to a new, trendy form factor and design and to have FAKE bragging rights as to having a monstrous 6" display that actually displays everything MUCH SMALLER than an equivalent sized screen diagonal in 16:9 aspect ratio. When all phones are 18:9, manufacturers will again force a 21:9 change just so they can sell more new phones and new tv's, monitors, etc. Nothing to do with ergonomics or immersive view. It's all about planned obsolescence and more sales.
2. Yeah right - in theory. In real practice, once a sealed battery needs replacement, seller is going to tell you replacement battery is no longer produced so phone is beyond repair. Or they'll tell you swap your phone with new model because replacement battery costs one third the original launching price of the phone!
3.Hybrid slots are lame. And NO, MOST (not a small minority) always use dual sims. It's not only in the developing world (India, China, Asia) mind you. Even in advanced economies, US, EU, Japan and Australia, dual sims are gaining wide acceptance because 1 sim = being at the mercy of the single network provider's expensive roaming or other network service.
Other than average battery life i didn't find any downside in V20. Excellent camera setup , bright QHD display , fast processor , enough on board storage and QC 3.0
What else you need ?
Anonymous, 20 Jan 2018Who wouldn't want a 2k or 4k screen in a phone if it has removable battery like the V20 in whi... more1)"narrow view" 18:9 screens allow you to see more of a site or feeds at one time which means less scrolling. Again you need to get with the times, I suppose you thought 16:9 was a step backwards from 4:3 for the exact same reasons but since the v20 uses 16:9 therefore 16:9 must be the best there is and the best there will ever be, right?
2) Apple is replacing batteries for $29 now. That's a great deal. If other manufactures follow suit and you can get your sealed battery replaced for $20 to 30 then half the argument of having a removable battery evaporates.
3) Most phones have SD card slots don't know why you're making it sound like the v20 is the only phone that supports SD cards because that's not true. Yes in many cases it's a hybrid slot but guess what most people don't use dual sims.
Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018The only thing LG has proven with the v20 is that the phone with the most features isn't necce... moreWho wouldn't want a 2k or 4k screen in a phone if it has removable battery like the V20 in which case, shorter battery life will be a non issue since you can just replace it when it is low battery? Now if a manufacturer puts in a 2k or 4k screen in a flagship but puts in a small, sealed battery, what's the point? I'd rather have a 1080p display on that same phone but with a removable battery or a sealed, but bigger 4000mAh battery like the Mate 9 has. Prioritization is the key. Too many flagships now prioritize looks, design and short-term glamorous curved screens and elongated NarrowView 18:9 displays. Slowly, manufacturers are removing anti-obsolescence features - thus no more removable batteries, no more headphone jacks, no more sd card slots, etc. No removable batteries means when the phone's sealed battery is dead, you'll buy a new phone. When your Bluetooth headset's sealed battery is dead, you'll just buy a new Bluetooth headset sold by the phone manufacturer when your old and trusty audiophile grade wired headphones would have never needed replacement even after 10 years. When the phone is out of internal memory, you just buy a new phone with bigger internal memory. No sd card means you wear out internal memory faster (more read/writes if you are a heavily into media consumption [photos, videos, music]). Don't you see the pattern? Everything is going to be disposable in the future if phone users keep on buying into these new trends that guarantee rapid obsolescence. It's not about the future. It's more about phone sales and the assurance you'll keep buying new phones year after year when you don't really have to like in other electronics products (desktops, monitors and tv's, etc. which you don't have to replace every year or so).
Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018The only thing LG has proven with the v20 is that the phone with the most features isn't necce... moreWho wouldn't want a 2k or 4k screen in a phone if it has removable battery like the V20 in which case, shorter battery life will be a non issue since you can just replace it when it is low battery? Now if a manufacturer puts in a 2k or 4k screen in a flagship but puts in a small, sealed battery, what's the point? I'd rather have a 1080p display on that same phone but with a removable battery or a sealed, but bigger 4000mAh battery like the Mate 9 has. Prioritization is the key. Too many flagships now prioritize looks, design and short-term glamorous curved screens and elongated NarrowView 18:9 displays. Slowly, manufacturers are removing anti-obsolescence features - thus no more removable batteries, no more headphone jacks, no more sd card slots, etc. No removable batteries means when the phone's sealed battery is dead, you'll buy a new phone. When your Bluetooth headset's sealed battery is dead, you'll just buy a new Bluetooth headset sold by the phone manufacturer when your old and trusty audiophile grade wired headphones would have never needed replacement even after 10 years. When the phone is out of internal memory, you just buy a new phone with bigger internal memory. No sd card means you wear out internal memory faster (more read/writes if you are a heavily into media consumption [photos, videos, musix]). Don't you see the pattern? Everything is going to be disposable in the future if phone users keep on buying into these new trends that guarantee rapid obsolescence.
Gaijin, 17 Jan 2018Apologies Guys, Ignore my earlier query. I have established from another forum that yes, the L... moreI wouldn't say it is standby. You need to chose which card is going to be used for mobile data. Then the other is automatically switched to GSM only. So one at a time. (H990DS)
Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018I'll hold on to my V20's for as long as it is problem free and functional, unless --- a TRUE s... moreYou got them all right! Congrats! Related to some replies you got, I don't think this forum should be used for explaining psychological profile of other participants. Phone features and experiences should be discussed here. So all replies who like to tell what kind of people users of V20 are should be dismissed. The same applies to those who discuss the problems which they never experienced or seen. Let's separate real user experiences from gossips. That is the only way to make this forum useful for readers.
Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018I'll hold on to my V20's for as long as it is problem free and functional, unless --- a TRUE s... moreThe only thing LG has proven with the v20 is that the phone with the most features isn't neccessisarly the best phone. Yes it does a lot of things but doesn't do any one thing particularly well with the exception of the camera and DAC.
Once again you go in and on about features but can't comment on user experience because that's very difficult to quantify in a numbered list.
I'm guessing this phone is only somewhat popular in India now as the rest of the world has moved on. You knock 18:9 screens, sealed batteries, hybrid card slots but there is a high chance your next phone will have all these features and when that happens you will think that phone is the best in the world. When your last phone had a 1080p screen you probably ranted that 2k screens were pointless and ate up battery and now your phone has one and you're not saying anything bad now about 2k screens, are you?
I'll hold on to my V20's for as long as it is problem free and functional, unless --- a TRUE successor with all the feature set of the V20 comes along. The V30 is not that successor. I'll only compromise on features, dropping some of them when my V20 is dead but no other phone with as complete a feature set is in sight.
Again, let me enumerate the features why I bought the V20 (update to Oreo has NEVER been one of them, but I do appreciate it if it gets Oreo or Peanut butter):
1. The V20 has a built-in IR blaster to control all your appliances including those of your noisy neighbors. Volume of their sound system too high? Turn it down or turn it off with your V20 secretly through their window. It will scare the hell out of them so they will stop being noisy. Want to input your song number in a karaoke player? You can do it with your V20! Aircon? TV? Washing Machine? Car stereo? Teach your V20. It has a learn mode! Just REALLY spend time learning how to use it and customizing it and you'll wonder how you ever survived using a phone without one.
2. The V20 has dedicated sd card slot, not that stupid hybrid slot where you are forced to choose between dual SIM or one SIM + SD card only. With the V20, you can use the 2 SIM slots AND still add your SD card. What's more, the V20 supports up to 2TB micro sd cards.
3. The V20 is probably the ONLY recent flagship with analog FM radio. All the rest have removed it. When theres a calamity, you'll realize its utmost value when nothing other than your FM radio is working. When you just have to listen to your favorite DJ on those long trips without data available, you are going to realize how much you miss not having an FM radio with you, anytime, anywhere, without wasting data and draining your battery in the process.
4. The V20 has drop resistance which ensures your phone will handle drops. More important than waterproofing really. I have dropped my phone a lot more times than wetting it with liquid and damaging it in the process.
5. The V20 has slimport (hdmi out/4K video out) capability. Wireless screen share of movies is nice but results to downgrade in video quality due to WiDi bandwidth limitations. Not so with slimport.
6. The V20 has removable battery. Low batt? Replace with a fully charged spare while charging the depleted battery using an external charger accessory. That means no charging time needed, no wear and tear of usb port (loosening), and no frequent exposure of phone internals from heat generated due to charging. Forget slow wireless charging! Why accelerate battery wear with even more heat? External charging is best!
7. The V20 has high quality audio recording, high-quality 4K video capture with manual controls and superb photo capture with dual cameras and full manual controls.
8. The V20 has a high resolution QHD IPS display with SECOND SCREEN. Place app shortcuts, your name or even Christmas greetings or whatever you like (Halloween, Valentines, emojis, etc.) on the second screen.
9. The V20 has fast charging when you need it through USB-C. It's OTG compatible too! Usb thumb drives, external hard drives, even those in NTFS and exFAT formats (not limited to FAT32) can be read with the proper app.
10. The V20 has analog headphone jack when all the rest have removed it.
11. The V20 has LTE advanced (4G+) with support for wall penetrating 700mhz. It has ability to force network mode to 4G/4G+ only (LTE only) for those places where the auto mode (GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto) keeps on giving you the slower HSPA/HSPA+ (H/H+) signal.
12. The V20's screen is a bright, 5.7" IPS panel in ideal 16:9 aspect ratio. 18:9 may be IN nowadays but consider this: 18:9 screen actually makes Facebook photo feeds smaller! 18:9 is too narrow. It makes keyboard typing cramped for the same screen diagonal! Reading in 18:9 curved phones look like reading text from a bottle of shampoo! Too much scroll! Amoled screens look nice, but if you didn't know already, they actually have much shorter life span than IPS panels. Amoleds tend to burn all their blue pixels and white pixels faster than the red and green ones, losing brightness faster with time and skewing the white balance towards reddish or amber tones.
13. The V20 has a powerful processor but costs only half to 1/3 the price of current flagships. Do you need the fastest processor for Facebook, Mobile Legends and Clash of Clans? No! Even the midrange snapdragon 625 will be do. Processors are like cars. The only benefit of the fastest cars are bragging rights and speeds in the race track. They're barely noticeable in everyday city driving.
The V20 is a phone meant to last and built to last, and not some latest trendy model that gets dumped after every year when newer flashy designs and newer models are released.
Get the V20 if you truly want to slow down the nonsensical yearly upgrade cycle phone manufacturers push so hard on consumers with the main objective of making your phone obsolete faster than ever, but actually adding nothing meaningful other than a fresh new exterior design and a new color option.
Exterior designs and looks rapidly go out of style. Useful features like those enumerated above don't.
Get it while it's available and cheap. It may be the last flagship phone to truly have it all.
Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018They've already done that, it's called the V30.The V30 has not IR blaster, very important for me and other specific circumstances.
Also I can not use a 10.500 mAh battery to long time videos.
AnonD-731695, 18 Jan 2018Does anyone know if LG fixed boothloop problem with v20 ?Nobody here who owns a V20 has a bootloop problem. But I do know many phones regardless of brand can have defective units (isolated bootloop issues). Yes, even some units of the iphone X and Samsung note 8 have bootloop issues. You just Google ' + bootloop' and voila! you see bootloop issues regardless of phone brand/model you put in the search.
Anonymous, 18 Jan 2018Hilarious; everyone's buying this phone for super cheap and still expecting LG to keep it upda... moreActually, after 2 year's time, all android phones will have outdated Android versions--- even Google's own Pixel phones. They will all be on equal footing with the LG V20 in terms of having an old android software that won't be updated anymore. The difference is that the LG will still have vastly better battery performance due to removable batteries, vastly better screen as Amoleds start to darken and shift white balance to redddish or amber (blue amoleds degrade much faster than red or white amoleds), phone's storage will be filled up in phones without dedicated sd card slot if user is using 2 sims, etc. In addition, V20 users will still be able to use the FM radio, IR blaster etc. as they still will remain functional even when Google playstore no longer supports nougat phones. So there you have it. I don't care for the delay or absence of an Oreo update for the V20. I didn't buy the V20 because I want Oreo. Besides, after two years time, no phone is going to have updated software unless you root them and install custom ROMs.