nutjob2, 16 Dec 2016So you're never going to buy a phone again according to that logic, since every manufacturer h... moreWhat? was this supposed to be in response to me? I have stated after this that I have had many phones in the past with major issues (2 G4's bootlooping, and a Note 7 fire to name the examples). Shot for the V20, because my last phone that still works just fine is a V10, also for the removable battery and Quad DAC, I was skeptical, but I haven't regretted it.
I don't grasp your point if it was, in fact, towards me.
Anonymous, 16 Dec 2016To help with the other guy, does anyone here own an LG v20? If so has there been any hardware ... moreI haven't had any as of yet, and I haven't seen many reports online of any software/hardware issues, outside of defective devices. Not even the previously dreaded camera glass cracking, which pre-release, was going to be a HUGE problem...but so far, hasn't made a splash at all.
Anonymous, 16 Dec 2016Why two Phones, just get a phone with removable battery, instead of paying for another phone w... moreThe batteries in the samsung are still good. Sorry, auto correct in my tablet sucks.
DaXiong, 16 Dec 2016I learned from G5 and earlier LG phones that LG don't care about software problems and aren't ... moreWhy two Phones, just get a phone with removable battery, instead of paying for another phone which is likely to be over $100 (at least here in the usa), just get a spare battery for under $20. And get the portable power bank and stuff. But I agree though, what use is there if the software sucks. Through personal experience, I would be looking for a phone with removable battery, but it must also have reliable software/hardware. If I get a good phone with non removable battery, when the battery goes bad the phone is useless. But if I get a phone with removable batteries, if the software/hardware goes bad, the batteries are useless cuz the phone won't be working properly.....So far I have had the battery go bad but not the software, but I was using an HTC (went bad at the 20 month mark). Currently going on almost 2 years (at the 20 month mark) with my Samsung, and the battery is phone because I am swapping the two I have every month. Software is still good. I haven't had a smartphone from LG. But I have had their phone before smartphones were around and the one I had lasted 6 years as a hand me down to my parents. That thing was a brick! Solid in all aspects. My motorola came close but the screen got dead pixels out of nowhere and within a few months too and it bugged me. But the Motorola was when smartphones began to emerge.
nutjob2, 16 Dec 2016So you're never going to buy a phone again according to that logic, since every manufacturer h... moreI learned from G5 and earlier LG phones that LG don't care about software problems and aren't fixing them. Maybe LG is on top of things in Korea but here half around the globe the local LG don't give a c**p.
If 4000 mAh always is enough to get me through any day and still having battery charge left while 2800 mAh means the battery runs out in the afternoon then of course 4000 mAh is much better for me (and for a lot of other people).
If I need to be prepared for all eventualities I would bring two phones, a charger and a power bank instead.
To help with the other guy, does anyone here own an LG v20? If so has there been any hardware or software problem to date? Personally, if I wasn't so picky with the size of the phone that I prefer (I prefer compacts), this phone would be my top choice behind the one plus 3T. This phone is a beast!
Anonymous, 14 Dec 2016http://betanews.com/2015/08/18/this-is-precisely-why-phones-without-removable-batteries-are-a-... moreSo you're never going to buy a phone again according to that logic, since every manufacturer has made a phone with problems.
I'm guessing you don't learn from your mistakes, becuase you think no-one else ever does.
DaXiong, 16 Dec 2016Because it's completely effortless to keep two batteries charged every day, the extra battery ... moreThat's the weakest set of excuses I've ever heard. Meanwhile you act like another 1200mAh is going to cover every possibility. Riiiight.
Whatever your power needs a replaceable battery, with the right number of replacement batteries is going to cover you, that is a fact. Yeah, wow, you have to charge and carry them and pay for them. I guess that 4000mAh battery didn't cost more either, and 4000mAh batteries take less room, don't they? And they take less time to charge, right? And ooh the effort and inconvenience of swapping the battery versus... your 4000mAh phone turning into a door stop.
Keep telling us how the laws of physics don't apply to you.
nutjob2, 16 Dec 2016I'm going to assume that you have some sort of disability that stops you from being able to sw... moreBecause it's completely effortless to keep two batteries charged every day, the extra battery and charger is always provided free from the manufacturer, the extra battery doesn't take up any space when going somewhere and it's always a good time to power off your phone and start fiddling with a battery replacement.
Or maybe not!
But if you actually read what I wrote then the main problem with LG G5 isn't the below-average battery life but all the software- and hardware problems. I will wait a good while before getting the V20 to see if it has similar problems.
Anonymous, 09 Dec 2016If your argument against this phone is solely the battery...and you ever bought an item in a s... moreTotally agree! I'm still using my beat up LG 3. No issues with anything, including the original battery. Tomorrow I think I'm going to break down and get the LG V20. I love my music. I want to download my free Amazon Prime movies. I want to utilize my premium headphones.:)
DaXiong, 14 Dec 2016G4 is only one phone away in the same series. Anyway, I was like you earlier but these day... moreI'm going to assume that you have some sort of disability that stops you from being able to swap batteries in a phone, becuase otherwise that statement makes no sense whatsoever.
I had used LG G4 for a year heavily. it was the only phone which satisfied me after the usage of sony xperiaz1. G4 had a better cam and easy menu. which is superb in ma opinion. but the only thing is about battery. even i got 2 batteries while i bought it. battery is nt good even if am nt a hard internet user. i sold it only bcos of this issue after a year. it was fell down many times from my hand bt i neva faced any issue with its display, it had only smal heating issue while using the cam. what abt the V20. is the battery enough ? how about the heating issues?
Anonymous, 15 Dec 2016You should compare the LG v10 since we are talking about the v20. G4, is a separate model. It'... moreI'm comparing with LG G5 because that's the model that sort-of fulfilled my requirements while the LG V10 didn't. I'm aware that HTC phones are generally non-repairable.
Anonymous, 15 Dec 2016You should compare the LG v10 since we are talking about the v20. G4, is a separate model. It'... moreThat is very true, some manufacturers glue the battery down, and removing it can damage or even destroy the hardware inside. Not to mention if the case is opened, in most cases, the warranty is void, and you compromised the IP rating of the device, (unless you send it to the manufacturer or authorized repair, which are more expensive and sometimes don't even offer battery replacement)
As for the V20's battery, I own it, and I am a power user...I haven't had any issue with the battery, it lasts me all day with 20-40% left when I put it on charge at night...there are days where I use it excessively (many games during boring waits), where I need to swap and go...luckily LG gave me a spare battery with the device as a promotion...as well as some pretty good B&O earbuds. I haven't had any software/hardware problems, (I had 2 G4's...(first warranty replaced, second I got a free upgrade because they messed up) both bootlooped, I had a Note 7...which burned up...usually I don't have the best of luck). So coming in I was skeptical too about the V20. However, I pulled the trigger...and am not regretting it.
DaXiong, 15 Dec 2016I agree in principle but if the phones with removable battery aren't good enough then i will s... moreYou should compare the LG v10 since we are talking about the v20. G4, is a separate model. It's like comparing the galaxy note and the galaxy s models. The note had battery failure but the s models did not. And as far as replacing a non removable battery, do research on which phones can be done easily or not. I had an HTC with non removable and it was unfeasible to replace no matter the price. So it really depends on how the certain phone model is built whether it is replaceable or not. If I had a choice I would choose removable batteries, but nowadays that feature is becoming rare.
Anonymous, 14 Dec 2016http://betanews.com/2015/08/18/this-is-precisely-why-phones-without-removable-batteries-are-a-... moreI agree in principle but if the phones with removable battery aren't good enough then i will still buy a phone with a sealed battery.
LG V20 is just too much of a gamble for me because LG G5 had lots of software and hardware problems and the battery life is not so good (and other phones with removable battery doesn't even come near in fulfilling my requirements).
DaXiong, 14 Dec 2016G4 is only one phone away in the same series.
Anyway, I was like you earlier but these day... morehttp://betanews.com/2015/08/18/this-is-precisely-why-phones-without-removable-batteries-are-a-terrible-idea/
old article, but still relevant until a new battery tech is utilized (as I said previously, graphene batteries are on the horizon, Tesla is looking at them for their cars). This is a major cause of the Note 7 debacle, and another reason sealed batteries are bad ideas.
Anonymous, 13 Dec 2016Yes, the G4. 2 flagships ago. (G5 and V10 came after, and had very minimal, sporadic cases). ... moreG4 is only one phone away in the same series.
Anyway, I was like you earlier but these days I will take a sealed 4000+ mAh battery over replaceable 2800 mAh any day, simply because it makes the phone much more usable. Of course it would be better if the 4000 mAh one was replacable too but no phone is perfect.
And you can usually replace the sealed batteries even if it's harder or you need to pay someone to do it.
DaXiong, 13 Dec 2016Many older LG phones such as G4 died from motherboard failure long before the battery needed r... moreYes, the G4. 2 flagships ago. (G5 and V10 came after, and had very minimal, sporadic cases). The G3 didn't, the G2 didn't...
so, your point is? If you're trying to say that there's a chance that the phones motherboard or other hardware will die prior to the battery, every phone has that chance...no matter the brand. Defective devices are a thing that every company suffers from.
Sealed batteries lock in a planned obsolescence, especially with quickcharge "technologies" (they're literally just the limiter on the SoC being removed or altered, allowing higher wattages to pass to the battery) degrading the li-ion cells faster.
Personally if companies started researching and began utilizing new battery tech, like graphene or the like, I wouldn't mind sealed batteries, as graphene has already shown that it can hold 7.5x more charge, degrades much slower, and is multitudes safer, as it isn't reactive.