RedWheelbarrow, 29 Oct 2017redwheelbarrow
I have decided to make this honest feedback based on my hands-on experience ... moreCongratulations to take your time to write this honest post.
About HI-FI QUAD DAC I recommend you strongly the use of the highly powered loudspeakers simply connected by Bluetooth.
Of course, wired and FLAC are awesome.
I have decided to make this honest feedback based on my hands-on experience with the LG V20 that I bought last month. I have to say, this phone is a pure BEAST! If raping replay buttons are overrated and an absurd understatement, I don't think that V20s raping other midrange and flagship smartphones would get the same response treatment. lmao. This phone is highly underrated indeed. If you're on a budget and still undecided on what smartphone to buy below the $400 price tag, no doubt, the LG V20 is the right one for you.
- Price (I got mine for $392 brand new)
- Overall performance (The SD 820 x Adreno 530 x 4GB RAM combo is a safe bet that it would be future-proof)
- Build quality (Although the top and bottom is made out of plastic, it can be easily scratched but the removable military-grade shockproof metal on its back is enough to secure your phone whenever accidental drops happen. Bad news for average to severe water-related accidents though. Fyi, I am not currently using any "protective" case for my V20 for I love to use it bare naked)
- Rear Camera (Wide-angle feature. Flexible Manual mode. Great overall quality but sucks at low-light. Bro tip: Do not remove the removable plastic attached on the camera. It serves as an additional protection for unwanted cracks on the surface)
- Audio and video recording (Outstanding. I highly recommend to set the video recording to manual whenever you feel the need to record videos)
- HiFi Quad DAC (Bro tip: Get yourself a decent pair of headphones or earphones. I am still broke asf so I am currently stuck in using the bundled cheap version of B&O H3 earphones. Its sound quality is good, but a lackluster in some areas. However, you can really tell the difference whenever you try to activate the HiFi feature. The overall improvement of the sound quality is noticeable and worthy to be praised)
- Display (The IPS Quantum 2K display is good enough for a phablet. Colors are sharp but the blacks are not deep. Screen is protected with CGG 4 but it will not protect you from various things that can cause potential harm or produce unwanted scratches on its surface)
- Removable battery (100% in a jiffy through hot swapping. If you don't mind sacrificing the aesthetic of your V20, Zerolemon offers 5,000mAh & 10,000mAh battery for the V20 that bulks your phone)
- Expandable memory (Up to 256GB using a micro SD card. I installed a 128GB micro SD card and with 64GB internal memory, it is more than enough)
- Dual SIM (I got the H990DS version. Legit dual-SIM. Two (2) dedicated SIM card slots and one (1) dedicated slot for the micro SD card)
- Secondary display (Not a gimmick. Reliable, convenient, unique, and somewhat useful especially the Always On Display. You can turn it off anytime though)
- Fingerprint sensor (Works all the time)
- KnockON feature (Useful and convenient)
- IR Blaster (Handy and reliable. Brands and models for household appliances are limited. Can be used for pranks and trolling. Proceed at your own risk)
- FM Radio (Not that useful for me but still deserves to be included on the list)
- Ghosting issues (Good thing it would heal and disappear if you let your phone rest for a while unlike Super AMOLED/AMOLED/P-OLED screens)
- Battery drains quickly (Seriously, only 3200mAh!? Who would want that smfh. Such a bummer for demanding power users like me)
- Heats quickly (Depends on usage)
- Noticeable hiccups and lags (I blame the 4GB of RAM for this. Also, the lack of software updates and optimizations had already taken its toll)
- Force closing of apps (Happened more than twice already since day one. I lost count)
- Front Camera (Overall quality is crap but tolerable. But, 5MP really!? It's 20fuckking17. How disappointing LG. Good thing the wide angle feature is there. Can be useful when needed)
- Software updates (LG is slow on updates. At least give us the the 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 Nougat update perhaps? The V20 deserves an Oreo update asap! Also, firmware updates should be up-to-date and readily available via OTA to all V20 versions, and delays should be avoided at all costs.
- LG UI (Stock LG UI is still sshit. I am currently using Nova Launcher since day one)
- Speakers (Non-stereo. Audio output is mediocre but tolerable to some point)
Dear LG, life won't be good and our gold stars won't be so lucky if you will not fix these concerns on the V20 and to your future smartphones asap!
Despite my due frustrations, kudos still to LG for the existence of this man-made marvel, the LG V20, that has the potential to stand the test of time.
AnonD-557583, 27 Oct 2017This device becomes better and better the more you use it :)Since the moment when discover their whole capabilities.
AnonD-709885, 24 Oct 2017This phone could be the best value for money, but I'm little concerned reading many complaints... more@danili
I've this phone and the ghosting issues is "there", noticeably with LINE messenger after the 2017 September security update. This is my daily driver & haven't had other issues throughout the last 7 months time.
This phone could be the best value for money, but I'm little concerned reading many complaints about ghosting issues it has.
I'm not sure warranty could cover it, not to mention that it is not available on all markets through regular channels, hence no LG support could be expected if some serious issues occur.
Alex, 23 Oct 2017Dear LG V20 users, can any one tel me how to fix my phone lg v20? last time i receive one upd... moreDon't have any issue after updates. V20 already on September 2017 security patch level as of last OTA update. Optimization of apps in the background happens after every update. Give phone some time to finish background processes after update. Make sure internet connection is fast as Google play services may also be updating in the background. Everything should be back to normal after update and after background processes related to the recently installed updates are completed. If not, disable draw over other apps (see previous posts here) or do factory reset (last option).
Dear LG V20 users,
can any one tel me how to fix my phone lg v20? last time i receive one update and installed , after the installation of Android update the phone works very slaw and often the apps stop working during using, Please let me know what to do in this situation? does any one face this problem too with the last Android update? Thanks a lot!
The phone that has (almost) it all.
1. Big screen, as good as it gets for IPS... But not as good as the best amoleds.
2. Big and replaceable battery.
3. Expandable storage AND dual sim (you can use two sims and one microSD at the same time).
4. FM Radio (yes, somepeople like it).
5. Exceptional main camera for photos - do not trust reviews and DxO marks... see for yourself... Checkout for RAW photos.
6. Dual camera on the back with wide FOV and a good frontal camera. Great for videos too.
7. Some fancy DAC for FLAC, DSF, DSD and DTS music... It will be hard to go back to MP3s after listing to music on the LG V20.
8. Fingerprint reader.
9. Quite clean and very customizable interface... LG stuff for android is better than ever
10. Knock code for screen, I really like it.
11. It have USB type C that seems more durable than the older type.
The not so useful:
1. Secondary screen... I really don't care about it... I would prefer a notification led...
Cons (what is missing):
1. Could be a little more compact.
2. Could be waterproof (like the Galaxy S5 waterproof).
3. The display could be amoled.
4. It could have a notification led instead of a secondary display.
5. It could have stereo speakers
6. It could have a heart rate sensor like the Samsung's S series.
7. The design of the main camera lens could be better.
8. It could support to fingerprinter reader gestures... That would be cool.
9. It could have dual microSD slots like the Saygus V2.
10. It could have a curved display like the LG G4 for added ruggedness.
All and all it is the most feature rich flagship available. The LG V30 lacks the FM radio and the replaceable battery and don't seem as resistant as the LG V20.
AnonD-709854, 22 Oct 2017I like to know if LG V20 allows users to use microsd card as adoptable memory. Secondly as su... moreNope, V20 does not have adoptable storage. Can confirm this on US9996 Unlocked V20, it might differ with other models. Using Sandisk Ultra 64 GB.
I like to know if LG V20 allows users to use microsd card as adoptable memory. Secondly as suggestion to Gsmarena if they could add adoptable memory as a feature in their specifications e.g. Samsung switches this feature off. Alo cover how seasy to use it or if it is hidden away, etc
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2017Heres a better gasoline anology.
You buy a new car and enjoy it very much. a couple of yea... morePoster said: "Same exact things with phones, the batterys wear out rendering them unusable, in as short as a year or two depending on usage. previously you could replace the battery for a tiny fraction of the cost of the phone. now you have to buy an entirely new phone."
I agree a great deal of thought goes into making phones obsolete, and honestly that shows Humans are living in Fairly Land where needed conservation is being replaced with status symbols and marketing $$$ levels like a stupid glass back on a phone that breaks falling off your knee where if you put it in a case as you should you can't see how shinny it is.
However when it comes to the battery I can see myself at age 14 running my own Internet business replacing non-replaceable batteries as you CAN replace the battery if you can disassemble and reassemble the phone and the battery is available. Everyone and that includes the observer you call you as long as you have the right number (about 98.6) should make sure they can buy a replacement battery of the same quality or better and draw the line there as throwing a good phone away exposes the wise tale "waste not, want not" and hammer any manufacture that forces a phone into a land fill just because there is no replacement battery available by not buying their products as that's really stepping over the line.
Right now for my needs the LG V20 at it's current price is by far the best choice and REALLY like having the 32 bit audio DAC which is icing on the cake with the IR blaster.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2017 If you routinely use up more than two spare batteries on your travels (equivalent to usage ab... moreNot through the scientific knowledge but empirically I think that your latest posts had been a big help for many of us.
If you routinely use up more than two spare batteries on your travels (equivalent to usage above 6400mAh per day), then a removable battery phone is your only option for convenience. As for me, based on my moderate to heavy usage pattern, I must have at least 4000mAh battery in my phone. If less than that, it should be removable.
MLAVRA, 20 Oct 2017I believe that this discussion is pointless. This is V20 forum so it is somehow natural that m... moreI agree. Just sharing my thoughts and experience coming from phones with sealed 4000mAh batteries or higher. The V20's removable battery is really an advantage to other flagships with about the same battery capacity (3000mAh to 3900mAh range) as it is the capacity range that tends to be convenient enough to make it through the day, but also one with deep discharge prior to recharging and hence, faster battery wear and tear. As I said, at this capacity range, a removable battery is best for a phone's longevity. Once you get to 4000mAh capacity, it wont matter much since battery will still likely be good even after 3 years and by that time, you may have already seen and bought a new phone. If you plan to change phones less frequently than 3 years, then removable batteries is a must for you but you must buy plenty of spare batteries before they are phased out.
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2017My sealed battery phone is 1 year old now and the battery is still going strong and can still ... moreWhat I stated was a general guideline. It may not be applicable to light users but generally applies to moderate to heavy users. Battery technology has been the same: lithium ion/lithium polymer. They are sensitive to drops and overheating which shortens their useful life. The more deeply discharged a battery is, the greater the wear and tear. Therefore, a 70% discharged (30% power left) 4000mAh lithium battery at the end of the day which will be recharged at that remaining battery level, will have less daily wear and tear compared to a 3000mAh one which will be 94% discharged everyday (6% power left) prior to recharging, given the same usage level. Even if you manage a day without recharging and only charge a phone when you get home, if it frequently gets to deep discharge levels, it is going to have shorter life than one that is lightly used and gets charged daily at say 30% battery power left. The total battery capacity and usage pattern determine battery life, not the technology which still hasn't changed much in years. My guideline therefore stays. 1. Do not buy a phone with less than 3000mAh battery, 2. If you must buy 3000mAh - 3900mAh battery phone, it shiuld be removable/user replaceable and 3. 4000mAh or higher battery capacity is best as it will wear much less. Between a Huawei Mate 10, a Samsung Note 8, a Pixel XL 2, and an iPhone 8 plus, the Mate 10 is expected to outlive the others in the battery department. Of course if you are a light user with your phone not deeply discharged at the end of the day despite the low battery capacity, then good for you. You can have any phone you want.
I believe that this discussion is pointless. This is V20 forum so it is somehow natural that most of us are V20 owners and this is because we love its features and functionality. I love it because of replaceable battery; I travel a lot and even the best battery will discharge after some time and if you are stuck at the airport or somewhere else and want to change the reservation, cancel the hotel or simply call home it is convenient to take a fully charged battery out of your pocket and replace it. What else makes V20 distinctive is a dedicated SD card slot (2 SIMs + SD card slot) which is a rarity today too. The advantages of other solutions are not acceptable for me but I will not try to persuade others that they are wrong. Therefore let's concentrate on functionality of V20 here and exchange the experience about hardware and software problems, updates and like.
For hesitant: GSM Arena has a wonderful tool where you can specify exactly what you want your new phone to have, then from the short list, you can select the one which fits your budget the best.
BTW, V10g-AME-XX, the latest update for H990ds, works great!
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2017As a general guide for those who value screen-on-time and battery life and at the same time wa... moreMy sealed battery phone is 1 year old now and the battery is still going strong and can still get over 6 hours of screen on time.
So I guess you're wrong because I don't think my battery is going to tank so much so fast in the next 6 months to the point where I'm going to be carrying a power bank or charging twice per day.
You are also forgetting that battery technology is improving over the years so batteries are able to stay fresher longer then what it was like say 3 or 4 years ago.