Anonymous, 11 Jun 2018"Just admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of what the V20 has in features."
I do... moreIt's amazing how you go on to great lengths still insisting the V20's features are irrelevant. You insist all sd card slots in any form (dedicated or hybrid) are the same. Well, they are not and they will never be the same. You divert the topic by mentioning variants of the V20. I'm talking about the H990DS. Why, did I ever mention the 'dual sim' of the V20 as an advantage over other flagships with single sim variants? Did I mention it being 'unlocked' as an advantage? Stop diverting the topic. Give me an S7 variant with dedicated sd card slot rather than telling me not all V20 variants have dedicated sd card slot. And while you're at it, give me an S7, whatever variant: Chinese market, Korean market, international, US, European market, etc. that offers MIL-STD-810G compliance (drop resistance), that has FM radio that you can really play back and is not disabled, and IR blaster, slimport, removable battery, etc. Or just accept it already instead of telling me only 7 out of 8 V20 variants have an FM radio as one out of 8 has it disabled by the carrier.
Anonymous, 11 Jun 2018Just admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of what the V20 has in features. Dedicat... more"Just admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of what the V20 has in features."
I do not own a s7, I use the phone as an example to show that there were phones released in the same year as the v20 with at least half the features you claimed to be unique to the v20.
"Dedicated sd card slot is not the same as the stupid hybrid slot. "
The s7 has an sd card slot, I don't know why you keep pushing this idea that hybrid makes it less of a slot for an sd card? If a phone has an sd card slot, then it accepts micro sd. End of story for that "unique" feature.
"You can't have dual SIM functionality and still have 400gb sd card expansion"
The v20 doesn't have dual sim on all the models, only the two international ones, which are not priced the same as the common non dual models sold everywhere. If you're to compare the international models of the v20 to other phones, then its price point doesn't make it "1/3 the price of current flagships" anymore.
"Drop resistance is important because more phones die from drops than from wetting. A good casing in a phone with drop resistance assures an almost 100% survival rate even from severe drops."
If a user is expecting "severe drops" then that user would invest in a case regardless if a phone is advertised with drop resistance. The LG v20 is not all aluminum, the rear camera has a glass cover that's more prone to shattering than the rest of the case giving out. That already is reason enough to invest in a case for the v20, despite its drop resistance, because of the higher chance of damaging the back camera.
Anonymous, 11 Jun 20182. There is a sd card slot for the samsung s7? 3. It has FM radio, it was soft disabled until... moreJust admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of what the V20 has in features. Dedicated sd card slot is not the same as the stupid hybrid slot. You can't have dual SIM functionality and still have 400gb sd card expansion. Drop resistance is important because more phones die from drops than from wetting. A good casing in a phone with drop resistance assures an almost 100% survival rate even from severe drops. That's a lot more useful and more important than the much hyped waterproofing.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018Samsung S7:
1. No IR blaster
2. No dedicated sd card slot
3. No FM radio
4. No drop resis... more2. There is a sd card slot for the samsung s7?
3. It has FM radio, it was soft disabled until fall of 2016.
4. Drop resistance - Unless you are a klutz, the s7 can withstand drops an average user may experience in their lifetime with the phone
7. "No high quality audio playback/recording, photo/video: TIE" - ??? Any phone can be advertised with high quality "feature set here," that's just pure marketing. You would need technical specs to distinguish the actual quality of a feature.
8. Edge version has second screen.
11. "Costs more" - depends, if you look today on ebay, a v20 is priced similarly to the s7. Though I do not consider cost something unique to the v20 either, Oneplus normally excels in competitive pricing while offering a quality phone compared to brand name popular flagships.
I have visited the forums of the competition. Boredom, disinterest, dispassion . . . , but motivation to discredit the V20. Shocking.
Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018It's amazing the extent you go to to prove to the world that you bought the best phone. I alr... moreThe suggestions to minimize/eliminate any traces of lag I mentioned work for any Android phone, not just the V20. Of course, you don't have to do it if you are not experiencing any lag problems or if you like the default 'slow' Android interface with sluggish animations. I don't and many people don't. At least in Android, you can change animation speeds, etc. and you can even eliminate it altogether.
Planned obsolescence is very real. Manufacturers are slowly crippling phones - removing long-term and lasting features (FM radio, IR blaster, removable batteries, dedicated sd storage, etc.); features that make you still use and hold on to your old phone despite it already being outdated in processor speed, camera or Android version. In exchange, manufacturers put on short term flashy features that are absolutely WORTHLESS from the stand point of longevity - wireless charging (slow and accelerates battery wear; inferior to removable batteries with external charging option), waterproofing (which the manufacturer doesn't offer any warranty for and which becomes worthless in a year's time with the seals becoming brittle and needing regular replacement) and curved elongated 18:9 NarrowView amoled screens which add a modern, futuristic look but otherwise make the screen a fracture magnet and making the unwanted touch experience incredibly annoying. Then there's improvements that while nice technological developments (iris scan, face id, under screen fingerprint sensor), are really just alternative methods of authentication and do not render the regular fingerprint scanner slow or inferior in comparison.
You keep on stating that the overall experience is more important than features. Well I tell you, much of the positive experience about the V20 is because of its multitude of features that are truly geared to make it long lasting and truly versatile and smart. The bragging rights satisfaction and experience you are talking about cannot be quantified and so that is why people prefer to buy flagship Samsungs and iPhones even if their amoled screens or batteries wear out or die faster than you could pay for the 2-year monthly amortization, because well, the experience of bragging a new popular brand flagship phone is quite addictive. Never mind if its disposable and is replaced with a newer, even more crippled model year after year.
Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018It's amazing the extent you go to to prove to the world that you bought the best phone. I alr... moreOf an iPhone, Samsung or whatever phone you can change the battery, loosing the waterproofing, but not their amperage.
Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018Because the battery of the 2012 Lenovo P770 is removable, you can also get one with 4000mAh ev... moreIt's amazing the extent you go to to prove to the world that you bought the best phone. I already said more features doesn't mean better phone and what do you do? Blah blah blah more about features. Why can't you quantify user experience? The fact that people complain about lag or slowdown then you give them intricate instructions like forcing gpu and stopping apps from redrawing over other apps. Doesn't sound like a very good experience when you have to overwork it or cripple it or both to get the desired experience.
Despite everything you say about planned obsolescence i'm sure by 2020 there will be a higher percentage of iPhone 7's in use than v20's.
Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018Same with curved edge Samsung flagship phones. I've seen one too many of those curved glass ph... moreBecause the battery of the 2012 Lenovo P770 is removable, you can also get one with 4000mAh even at present. It's on ebay for so cheap. Again, the phone is a 2012 model with dual sim, dedicated sd card slot, 4.5" ips lcd screen but with HUGE removable battery up to 4000mAh (fits as well as the original 3500mAh removable battery without having to place a 3rd party back cover).
If a smartphone from 2012 can have a 3500mAh to up to 4000mAh REMOVABLE battery, why can't a modern 2018 flagship have it? Simple really... Planned obsolescence.
A 2012 smartphone with removable battery feature is still alive and in use by lots of users (how else would anybody explain why Lenovo P770 non OEM batteries are still available up to now if there's no demand for them)?
Years from now, the same will happen to the last flagship with removable battery - the 2016 LG V20. Keep yours while they last.
And don't worry about batteries. For sure, just like the 2012 Lenovo P770, you'll still have lots of 3rd party ones (non OEM) available for sale years from now.
Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018The V20 doesn't have that sort of horrible screen retention as your G5. Actually many V20 owne... moreSame with curved edge Samsung flagship phones. I've seen one too many of those curved glass phones that crack faster than their owners could fully pay for their monthly amortization or amoled screens getting those dreaded permanent screen burn and/or pink/magenta bars/streaks that is a portent of the screen's imminent death. And I've seen how devastated their owners were when told the screen replacement costs half the phone's price. I've also experienced how my old 2012 Lenovo P770 with removable 3500mAh battery is still alive because of cheap 3rd party battery replacements. Sure it doesn't have the fastest data speed (being 3G only) and the camera is horrible by today's standards or the small internal memory (4GB but with dedicated sd card slot), but I keep using it still because its IPS display is still very good, it still makes for an excellent call and text and browsing device, and it's FM radio is still perfectly working and you could listen to it on loudspeaker without need to attach headphones, and most of all, it makes for a long lasting emergency flashlight with 3500mAh removable battery in a 4.5" screen that's just a little bit chunkier than modern phones but puts to SHAME all modern flagship phones with sub 3500mAh sealed batteries.
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2018I don't know about the V20 but I had the G5 for around a year. The screen retention was absolu... moreThe V20 doesn't have that sort of horrible screen retention as your G5. Actually many V20 owners don't even have it at all or that the sreen retention in their units are probably too mimimal for them to even notice it or consider it a 'problem'. I used to like the Nexus line. (I had a Nexus 7 2013 LTE device before). It was nice to have the fast software updates but then I came to the realization about what truly mattered the most in phones and tablets: Battery life and screen longevity. The Nexus was slow compared to modern devices but I could tolerate it. But then its worn out sealed battery and damaged usb charging port resulted to frequent, slow wireless charging throughout the day as it would drain rapidly after about a year of heavy use. It's up to date Marshmallow software that was touted to improve battery life better than Jellybean, KitKat and Lollipop, did not make my experience less unpleasant. Sure, it had three (3) huge/major android software updates and timely security patches but in the end, it was the battery and charging problem that did it for me. The wireless charging did little to alleviate the problem. It made the battery performance deteriorate further.
As a conclusion, many users/phone buyers lose track of what is truly important/top priority in any phone or tablet: it's not waterproofing or wireless charging or fast software updates. Many users/buyers forget what matters most for phone/tablet longevity because they probably replace their phones/tablets every year or two. In the end, it's the battery and screen longevity matter most and should be top priority closely followed by storage expandability. Processors and cameras are already good/satisfactory in today's phones that we don't need to upgrade as frequently as manufacturers would like us to believe. That's the reason why I'm not a fan of the Nexus or Pixel line anymore. The latesr software experience doesn't matter when your phone/tablet storage is full or the battery is dead.
Anonymous, 05 Jun 2018Those who don't own a V20 really do not know how insignificant the screen retention is but kee... moreI don't know about the V20 but I had the G5 for around a year. The screen retention was absolutely terrible. I'd be on a screen for 30 seconds with 75% brightness and when I'd hit the home button, there was the screen retention. Incredibly obvious and distracting. Not to mention the ridiculous backlight bleeding, abysmal battery life (well under 2 hours screen on time), terrible durability (main camera broke within 6 months of light use, no drops, then camera glass broke a few weeks later) and the disgusting skinned software. And that's not to say all LG phones are terrible. I'm currenty using a Nexus 5X, which other than the battery life (worse than the G5 but as long as it's in power saver mode I don't really notice it) and processing speed, probably due to the 2 GB of RAM, it's a great phone. It doesn't have LG's stupid skin on it, has an easily unlockable bootloader, no carrier lock, meaning there is also no carrier bloat (I only buy unlocked phones or phones I can easily install a ROM on after my terrible G5 experience), and the camera is exceptional, especially compared to my OnePlus 5T I had prior to the Nexus.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018You can buy V20 rear glass camera lens cover at ebay or amazon. Thanks for the information but ebay has only the 8mp module the 16mp is out of stock.
Appreciate the help thanks.
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2018Another typo. This should have been: "Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three came... moreThanks a lot for the links will sure check them out. Hugely appreciate your time and effort.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20 selfie/front camera, 12 ... moreAnother typo. This should have been:
"Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20: the selfie/front facing camera, the 12 mm 8.0 megapixel ultrawide 'big' rear V20 camera and also the small (main 16 megapixel rear 'middle' V20 camera):
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2018Terminology they use can be confusing. The 'big' camera is actually one with the biggest diame... moreSorry for the typo. It should have been: "The 'big' camera is actually one with the biggest diameter (the 12 mm, 8.0 megapixel ultrawide secondary rear camera)". "
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20 selfie/front camera, 12 ... moreTerminology they use can be confusing. The 'big' camera is actually one with the biggest diameter (the 12 megapixel ultrawide secondary rear camera)..The 'middle' camera is actually one with the 'middle' sized / 'mid sized' diameter (that is, it refers to the 16 megapixel main rear camera). The 'small' camera actually refers to the smallest diameter V20 camera (that is, the 5.0 megapixel front facing/selfie camera).
Here's another aliexpress seller who has all three cameras of the V20 selfie/front camera, 12 megapixel ultrawide 'big' rear V20 camera and also the small (main 16 megapixel rear 'middle' V20 camera):
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018For the entire V20 rear camera module (main 16 megapixel rear camera), you can buy from aliexp... moreSorry my mistake. Link is for the secondary ultrawide 8.0 megapixel big rear camera module. You can try to ask aliexpress seller for the other (main 16 megapixel) rear camera as they also accept special orders.
For the entire V20 rear camera module (main 16 megapixel rear camera), you can buy from aliexpress: