Anonymous, 13 Jun 2017Yes this issue drive me crazy it's half the reason I went back to Samsung. The g4 had it, the... moreLG phones have exactly the same screen since G4. Unfortunately it's a poor quality screen. (Just mention that LG also reused the same camera from G4 in V10 and G5.)
Frank, 14 Jun 2017Very good post and perceptibly honest comparison. As I no longer have my Bose ear buds which ... morethere are ways of fooling the V20 into Full Hi-Fi mode with any headphone/speaker. You just have to be weary of overdriving your headphones in certain cases. (I believe 30 Ohms is the line for the DAC to switch modes) In low power mode, only 1 of 4 DAC outputs are live...in full, all 4 fire...
AnonD-677076, 14 Jun 2017I too have been an HTC One M8 owner and have loved it. However, the battery was beginning to f... moreVery good post and perceptibly honest comparison. As I no longer have my Bose ear buds which like many other ear buds stopped working, I don't have high end buds and so I am not sure if I would feel the same when comparing the audio to the M8 which I still love. Because of the way I praised my phone, my wife suggested multiple times, why don't I just get a new M8. They were available online. I did give that consideration but have not gone down that path yet. Still contemplating the LG v20 - maybe you want to go get another M8:-)
AnonD-677076, 14 Jun 2017I too have been an HTC One M8 owner and have loved it. However, the battery was beginning to f... moreIt's uncommon to see here a meticulous, well builded and unbiased critical post. Congratulations.
I too have been an HTC One M8 owner and have loved it. However, the battery was beginning to fail, so I was forced to go upgrade it (if I could have replaced the battery I would have, but far too complex of an undertaking). I looked at the options available with a removable battery specifically in mind and the only option at T-Mobile was the V20.
I didn't love the looks, though it's not as terrible as some people on here have stated in my opinion. I don't really care about the secondary screen, it's alright, but not anything you'd miss if you didn't have it. Nougat is alright, but again, I really haven't found any feature that is 'must have' with it. Double the internal storage is nice, but not really must have either with a SD card slot on both. Double the RAM is theoretically nice as well, though I haven't really noticed it yet in basic use, nor did I ever feel lack of RAM was holding the M8 back at anytime in the past few years. It feels maybe slightly snappier overall than the M8 after the M8 had been used heavily for 3 years.
It's a bit more difficult to manipulate with one hand versus the M8 obviously, but it does have a swipe across the home buttons feature to shrink the visible screen to make one handed use easier. The camera is obviously more powerful overall then the M8's, but I don't like how the entire camera area is raised up from the rest of the body. Makes me uncomfortable sitting it on it's back on most surfaces. A case will be a must and I never rocked a case with my M8. I feel like the wide angle rear facing camera is something I will rarely use, but might be nice once in a blue moon. The depth of field options from the M8 were something I used more often, but not all the time either. The front facing wide angle mode actually is handy though, that is a upgrade for sure. The one thing I don't like about the front facing shooter is even with beauty effects turned all the way down, the pictures are still way too soft. I blame the chicks who want to look airbrushed and blurry in every photo - but it's never been something I am after in any picture, though. Manual settings do not work for the front facing camera, but they are all there for the rear facing cameras and are nice if you know how to use them. Auto mode for the rear produces acceptable shots, but in my testing, tweaking the manual settings will produce better pictures, particularly in lower light settings.
The main thing I care about is audio. Basically, right out of the box, the One M8 sounds superior both with and without headphones. The V20 has one mono speaker at the bottom of the phone and after spending the last 3 years with the One M8 I guess I had gotten so used to it's front facing stereo speakers, that I forgot how far superior they are to pretty much everything out there. Needless to say the difference between the two is night and day in favor of the M8. With standard ear buds, the M8 and boomsound beats the V20 as well, even with the V20's Hi-Fi feature turned on - however, I discovered that the V20 scales it's Hi-Fi output based on the buds/phones/speakers plugged into the jack. If you are into listening to lossless audio formats on expensive 30+ ohm earbuds, then it's likely the V20 will sound better in that scenario. For streaming music/listening to MP3's on standard gear/bluetooth speakers - then it's a pretty clear win for the M8.
Battery life so far is much better compared to the failing battery in my M8, but I can see why some people think it is a battery guzzler. It does charge super fast and being able to swap it out for a fresh battery is the main thing that sets this phone apart and also the main thing I love about it. So overall it's growing on me a little bit, but I still find myself wishing I could have just gotten a new battery into my M8.
It's worth noting that they slashed the price almost in half just a few weeks ago, so it was only 480 compared to the 875 I paid for the M8. I won't hesitate to use T-Mobile's Jump program this time around, should a phone appear with a removable battery in the next year that's clearly superior. And nothing made me want to jump out of the M8. So for now the M8 is my backup/work around the house music player. Hope that helps you and any other M8 owners who are thinking about upgrading to the V20.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2017LG V20 is the best, but image retention issue cannot fix it even changed or replaced new LCD i... moreYes this issue drive me crazy it's half the reason I went back to Samsung. The g4 had it, the v20 has it, even MacBook Pro Retinas with LG screens had this issue.
LG V20 is the best, but image retention issue cannot fix it even changed or replaced new LCD image retention not fix,
The secondary display is practic. If you are for example watching YouTube and have a notification, go there and back again without "point" lost.
Bought this device....and its worl like a dream...if u know how to use it....battery is only concern but only if u have lot of apps installed.(that's me but no regret bcoz i know what is happening with lot of apps....not device's fault...)... Minimal the apps greater the battery life...i already ordered a spare battery ... Of same sizer...
Although 6600 mah and 10000 mah batteries are also available in market.... Will buy one of them in near future...
V20 owners can think about it bcoz they can..
We have the freedom of spare battery option...
And everything else in this device is just GREAT.... Belive me...i hv tried almost all of popular companies phones...
And this device is way better in most of the aspects than the others.......
This LG V20 was cheap because blankly.... It is cheap! I have had it for all of 13 days, have missed every call I have received pretty much on it. I guess some phones have a problem with data and service working against each other. Think the phone people can help out though? Psh... Heck no! That would be too easy. Its your sim card they say... Yea, I dont think so, my samsung worked like magic... How about you let me use it on your network!!!
Phone maybe big, and easy to read for ppl with bad eyesight like myself. But 100% NOT WORTH THE HASSLE IT IS GIVING ME. I get messsges every second saying my messages arent sending, to try again. Um, I did not buy a new phone for this!!! Samsung.... I'm coming back to you!! This phone was not worth any of the time i wasted on it!!!
Features like IR blaster, FM radio, removable battery and even NFC, aren't interesting to everybody.
But an almost pro audio recording. State of the art video recording. HI-FI QUAD DAC . . . and more, are appreciated by discerning people.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2017Use the sales data for first six months of each device and they sold a lot more g4's. I was a... moreYou didn't mention the first 6 months of sales. Even if you did, it's irrelevant because the V20 wasn't launched world wide like the G4 back then.
Even more irrelevant because following your line of thoughts the better phone is the most sold one.
Easy for you to choose, just check the sales data and buy the phone that sold the most.
And judging phones (or anything really) by the looks of them, everyone aside from you knows that looks are a subjective thing; everyone likes different phones regarding looks. And I'm not defending the V20 by any means, I personally like it. I like the look of the S8 more, but that was too expensive for me. I didn't like how the G6 looks, so I got the V20.
Rimac , 08 Jun 2017According your opinion, what is the item more important ? Specs or external apparence ? I want specs and looks.
I'm also disappointed, I actually really wanted to buy this phone but just couldn't bring myself to it because I was happy with everything except how it looks. It's a deal breaker. You want to sell ugly clothes for 1/2 price that wear as well (or even better) than good looking clothes I'm still not buying your ugly clothes.
Also, I was only considering this phone because of the price (read: cheap). If it cost as much as a equivalent Samsung then it's a no-brainer decision and get the Samsung.
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2017Use the sales data for first six months of each device and they sold a lot more g4's. I was a... moreAccording your opinion, what is the item more important ? Specs or external apparence ?
wut, 08 Jun 2017Sold more phones of a model that has been released in 2014 April, than the one released in 201... moreUse the sales data for first six months of each device and they sold a lot more g4's. I was always implying this type of comparison as it needs to be fair.
Please tell me your clever way of manipulating the data to suggest they sold more v20's. The G4 was a widely more successful phone for LG than the v20. The v20 launched and was forgotten very fast. In developed countries a lot of people only got one because they had to give back their Note 7.
I like the v20 specs but face it its ugly as fu...