Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer ... moreI've already answered that question in the previous pages. But to make it simple, here's an analogy: Curvy Samsung flagships are like flashy, gold plated, gem studded nail cutters while the LG V20 is like a plain stainless steel Swiss army knife which just happens to also have a nail clipper. It also helps that the flashy, gold plated, gem studded nail cutters are being promoted by rich celebrities and advertised heavily on tv, print media and billboards while the lowly Swiss army knife is being promoted by a geeky promo boy talking technical gibberish to ordinary shoppers at a department store. Which of the two do you think will sell more?
I'd like to throw back the question to you:
If Android OS is superior to IOS and flagship Android phones have a lot more features than any iphone in existence (dual sim, sd card, more RAM, better amoled high resolution screen, Octa or deca-core processor, higher battery capacity, etc.), why do iphones still sell more than even ALL of the android flagships from various manufacturers combined?
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017I am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer ... moreThe real reason why it didn't sweep the market was because many people added at the brainwashed by propaganda the frivolous behaviour.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017You are dead wrong. Huawei flagships don't have FM radio, don't have removable battery, don't ... moreI am not here to promote Samsung (my last two phones were LG btw). I just want you to answer the same questions I've had all along but you've avoided and that is...
If the v20 is the best phone on the planet as you seem to paint it to be, why don't you see people with them everywhere? Why didn't it sell more than competitors? Is everyone who didn't buy a v20 wrong to have bought whatever other phone it is that they bought? After the Note 7 recall you would have thought the v20 would have been a home run with the competition out of the game, but that wasn't the case.
Despite the v20's impressive long list of features, and a price that sunk faster than the Titanic it still wasn't super successful. Please enlighten me why. There must be a reason why it didn't sweep the market.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017The G4, G5, and v10 also have most of the features you talk about as do a lot of Huawei phones... moreYou are dead wrong. Huawei flagships don't have FM radio, don't have removable battery, don't have dedicated SD card slot (they have hybrid slots so you sacrifice either the dual sim or sd card functionality), don't have slimport support, don't have Quad DAC audio, don't have drop protection, don't have a multipage second screen you can swipe where you have quick access to shortcuts, tools, apps and favorite contacts, etc. Huawei flagships have IR blasters but they are not capable of 'learn' mode which is so important as it leaves NO REMOTE that you can't clone/copy even if it is some obscure brand of aircon, tv, cable/set top box, etc. That's a lot of missing features for users and far from what you claim.
Previous LG phones? OK, let me lecture you: The G4 only has 32 GB internal memory, has NO dual SIM, NO dual camera, NO USB C, NO fingerprint sensor, No second screen, No drop protection and has bootloop issues with some units like your ill-fated G4. It also has an older 20nm less efficient processor which does not help the smaller battery.
The G5? Almost the same as the G4: only 32 GB internal memory, NO dedicated SD card slot, NO second screen and NO drop protection. It also has a significantly smaller screen (not in the same category as the V20) and a much smaller battery.
The V10? It is the closest as it is the V20's immediate predecessor but still, it is inferior with an older less efficient 20nm processor, NO USB C, NO dual rear camera and a smaller battery.
So NO. None of the phones you mentioned have almost the same complete feature set as the V20. Any more phone suggestions from your favorite Samsung brand? I'm all ears.
And dont forget useless edge screen on samsungs. Cant really protect the edge with a tempered glass. Cant type properly without touching edge screen. It takes up usefull screen area at the edges. I sold my s7 edge primarily for that reason. Now I see v30 has edge screen too what a shame.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017My phone isn't perfect nor is it the best and I can accept that. It's you who is blowing your ... moreThe matter is that many people don't claim that the V20 is the best but of course is the most complete about working functions.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017You don't want to accept that you have wasted your money on an inferior planned obsolescence p... moreMy phone isn't perfect nor is it the best and I can accept that. It's you who is blowing your horn that the v20 is supposedly the best phone in the world without flaws or cons, and that is simply not true. You boost about features you can't even use at the moment (such as support for 2tb cards that don't even exist yet). You see it as a perfect phone and there is no such thing.
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2017Yup just keep blabbing on and on whatever it takes to validate your purchase decision.
The ... moreYou don't want to accept that you have wasted your money on an inferior planned obsolescence phone. The truth hurts you, so you're trying to validate your purchase decision.
You should read my comment again instead of repeating the same arguments, because I've already written the facts in my previous comment. You couldn't make any new argument. I've already addressed all of your points.
Anonymous, 29 Sep 2017Those who visit the V20 comments section are seriously contemplating on whether to buy the V20... moreIf the V20 is your first LG, it's better to you be specially a young person to recognise that is better a totally equipped unit than the last model launched with the latest technological "birds".
[deleted post]The G4, G5, and v10 also have most of the features you talk about as do a lot of Huawei phones.
That's why I emphasize the DAC and video/camera and audio recording are truly the standout features and are the real reason anyone should buy a v20, if you are not into those three things then there are other options out there. The v20 is not "battery powerhouse", just look at all the users on xda forums disappointed with the v20's battery life. The gsmarena review also suggests sub-par battery life.
It is ridiculous to think the v20 has no flaws. EVERY phone has flaws.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017It is really quite easy to correct lags in android phones. Even cheap phones with entry level... moreYou should just go back to the Samsung forum. Those who came here are looking for a phone with exactly those features absent in a Samsung flagship (ir blaster, fm radio, dedicated sd card, removable battery, etc). The V20 is for those who demand their phone to be everything they want it to be: remote controller, battery powerhouse, FM radio, storage powerhouse, etc. If they have no value to you, you shouldn't spend more time here than in the Samsung forum. Unless if you have an axe to grind because your are bitter with LG because of your bootlooping G4. To sum up, a Samsung flagship is like a good flashy nail cutter. TheLG V20 is like a good Swiss army knife. It is not for everybody. It is for those who want their phone to be everything to them.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Please stop force feeding everyone what you think. If it's so great then WHY isn't it in the ... moreThose who visit the V20 comments section are seriously contemplating on whether to buy the V20 or not. I'm a happy or should I say, ecstatic owner. That doesn't mean other owners will be happy because yes, the V20 is not for all users. Android phones are not for all users. Those who complain lagging in a flagship phone regardless of whether it is the V20 or a Samsung or other phone deserve to know the probable causes and that the brand name is immaterial, more so when you have a flagship processor running on a phone. I know you had a bad experience with a bootlooping G4 but that doesn't mean you and other bitter former LG users have the privelege to come here and criticize all LG phones. As I said, this is my first LG phone. It is not wrong to correct misconceptions about specific problems (example lagging) as specific to brand alone. You get the same comments at the Samsung comments forum. You'll be better off defending Samsung there than being bitter of the LG brand here.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Please stop force feeding everyone what you think. If it's so great then WHY isn't it in the ... moreAt present for people who want DAC, camera and /or video & audio recording, another LG options are available, without being suffering the V20 complete possibilities and for they backwardness.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017I have none of the issues you mentioned. You may need to check and disable draw over other app... morePlease stop force feeding everyone what you think. If it's so great then WHY isn't it in the #1 phone on this website? If it's so great WHY isn't this forum super busy with activity? If it's so great then WHY hasn't everyone gone out and bought one because the v20 is so cheap but with so many features?
It's a phone, it has pros and cons just like every other phone. And then there's the intangible overall user experience that no feature set can save if it's not good. I for one don't need an FM radio, IR blaster or my SD Card slot to recognize 2TB cards that don't even exist yet. For me screen quality, battery life, and camera are what is important and the v20's battery life or screen can't touch a Samsung, period.
The v20 is best suited for people who need the DAC, camera and/or audio recording. Everything else is just "so so" or very "average" about it despite the elaborate fantastic picture you're trying to paint.
Nauman Majeed, 27 Sep 2017Lg v20 is an average phone. Camera,DAC and other such things are great. Main issues are Ran... moreNot only doesn't have overheats but, without hard gaming, it is "A quiet american".
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Owned for about a year, very laggy and no quick way to clear memory. Autorotation is possesed... moreIt is really quite easy to correct lags in android phones. Even cheap phones with entry level snapdragon 435 processors and just 2GB of RAM can run smoothly if you just know how to tweak, disabling unnecessary permissions. In particular, try to disable all 'draw over other apps' permissions and turn off all battery optimization and disable 'run on start up' of most apps. If you don't know how or don't bother doing research about what all those things mean and how they can affect an android phone's performance, you may be better served by an iphone or a windows phone. If you did as suggested and still have a laggy phone, try a factory reset and redo those suggested above. If still the same, you may have hardware issue (internal memory, sd card, etc.) Have the phone replaced.
Owned for about a year, very laggy and no quick way to clear memory. Autorotation is possesed and late to the game, on sprint network. Main issues are updates mess with memory causing lag or just not enough memory management on active app. Have had to reboot a dozen times for issues with volume focus or non responsive.
Nauman Majeed, 27 Sep 2017Lg v20 is an average phone.
Camera,DAC and other such things are great.
Main issues are
Ran... moreI have none of the issues you mentioned. You may need to check and disable draw over other apps permission and disable battery optimization for many apps if you are having any lags (random or otherwise). Also battery heating is average and normal, nothing out of the ordinary; typical of flagship phones with powerful processors. Battery life, yes average but definitely better than flagship phones with less than 3200 mAh battery, that is, if you really are a heavy 4G LTE only mobile data user. For heavy mobile LTE data users, you should know that only the battery capacity matters. No amount of power saving or optimization helps. The V20 should get you through the day most of the time just like other flagship phones with similar battery capacity (3000-3200mAh).
Average phone as a whole? This I don't agree. It is actually the best one you can have in terms of true smartphone versatility. Rare or absent features in most flagships that the V20 has: dedicated sd card support up to 2TB, remote/I.R. functionality, FM radio, removable/replaceable battery, hdmi out/tv out/slimport support, excellent dual cameras with extensive manual controls for photo and video capture, hi quality quad DAC audio, drop resistance and swipable, multipage second screen for quick access to apps, contacts etc. Other 'more common' flagship features that the V20 has: QHD screen, fast processor, fingerprint support, dual sim support, LTE-A capability with multi LTE band support, fast charging (QC 3), USB C, headphone jack, etc.
So NO, the LG V20 is NOT your average phone, and even more so, NOT your average flagship phone. It is UP and ABOVE the rest in terms of overall versatility, features and performance. I am a 'price no object', buyer with no brand loyalty whatsoever. Please name me a single flagship phone other than the V20 that has EVERY feature the V20 has (I mentioned them all above) and I will buy it if it outperforms the V20 even just in screen size or in processor power.
If you are talking about external looks and screen size alone however, the V20 is an average phone. But once you get into the essentials - the extensive feature set, the versatility, the flexibility and the overall smartphone experience for the most demanding of users who want everything in a phone, then sadly, it has absolutely no competition.
Lg v20 is an average phone.
Camera,DAC and other such things are great.
Main issues are
Random lags (really annoying).
Battery life average.
Rimac , 26 Sep 2017Please tell me, if fitting a spare of 10.000 mAh battery is still pocketable and the possible ... moreYes, it still fits in pocket but feels a bit bulky which you will get used to easily. Zerolemon has own back case which fits fine. Here's a link to a real life review: https://youtu.be/3c_tfipwotA