review please gsmarena
this is the first waTER prof android and anti doost
Anonymous, 23 Sep 2010does the phone have dual sim capabilitiesNo dual SIM for Defy.
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2010The benchmark includes graphic-components! The Kobe does have a PowerVR SGX 530 GPU, the defy ... moreOkay get it. Defy is without GPU.
Do you know that Verizon will lanch Droid world edition and Droid Pro world edition?
Droid Pro, 17 Sep 2010Moto MB520 Defy and Moto MB525 Kobi have 800Mhz but on benchmark they beat Samsung Galaxy S wi... moreThe benchmark includes graphic-components! The Kobe does have a PowerVR SGX 530 GPU, the defy doesn't..it has NO dedicated GPU so it will, so that everybody may understand this now, NOT perform as good as the Kobe, the Galaxy S etc within this benchmark or any graphic-heavy benchmark. Sure it's possible to calculate faster than older 1Ghz if you exclude graphics.
it's like comparing on-board graphic-cards from Intel Anno 2007 with high-end cards by Nvidia or ATI Anno 2010. You will not be able to play crysis on the on-board one with full details, while you could (if the rest of your PC is good enough) with a card of named producers.
Get this right once and for all: NO 2D/3D accelerator in the Defy because of OMAP 3610 CPU, A good 2D/3D accelerator in the Kobe because of OMAP 3440 or 3630 (like the link mentioned) and many many other mobile phones released within the last 2 years.
And again i will buy this phone because i will keep the mobile gaming to devices that can actually display 3D-graphics.
[deleted post]Can somebody provide a link to a thorough test and or benchmark pretty please ?
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2010I don't hate moto, my last 2 phones were moto AND I WILL BUY THE DEFY YOU "INSERT RANDOM ... moreMoto MB520 Defy and Moto MB525 Kobi have 800Mhz but on benchmark they beat Samsung Galaxy S with 1Ghz all running android 2.1
100 Moto, 17 Sep 2010So my guess you have actually used the phone and evaluated its REAL performance?
Just becau... moreI don't hate moto, my last 2 phones were moto AND I WILL BUY THE DEFY YOU "INSERT RANDOM INSULT" because of the outdoor capabilities And that's what i'm talking about when i say the performance is probably worse, that we have to wait for benchmarks, which i already wrote on several blogs + youtube. Great heh ?
BUT the specs INDICATE that it will perform worse WITH GAMES, which i couldn't test on IFA obviously. (gasp yes i held it in my hands). Jeez .Other than that i said absolutely nothing but the obvious letdowns even you can't deny.
i don't understand the Oprah statement because well nobody cares about her outside the US, but she probably promotes it because Moto wanted to promote it and it's cheaper to give away.
Anonymous, 16 Sep 20101: "It's the strongest Android phone available" (2x) Strong like in tough? No big de... more1: "It's the strongest Android phone available" (2x) Strong like in tough? No big deal when you have no competitor.
4: Crystal talk was bad in earlier Motorola devices.
How come no big deal when there is no competitor? Does that mean Moto is MIELS AHEAD of the competition as nobody else knows how to make a rugged phone?
The space shuttle is unique without competitor, is it being no big deal?
Exactly how bad Crystal Talk is in early Moto devices? My friend is using U9 and once I spoke with him and thought he was at home, he said he was at a carnival!
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2010It's not about top specs. It will deliver performance of 2 years ago or worse.SO this is just ... moreSo my guess you have actually used the phone and evaluated its REAL performance?
Just because you don't appreciate a rugged smartphone, that doesn't mean people out in the woods don't need one.
The numbers on paper may not necessary translate real performance.
A 2011 Honda Accord (US version) LX has 177hp. Does it really go that much faster than a 1996 Accord with 140 or so HP?
I am currently using Motorola Milestone, Quench, and Cliq. Yes, Milestone is no doubt being the sportscar of the batch. Though the rest are also "ok". (especially vs. Symbian!), especially taking price as consideration. The latter 2 are like regular sedans, instead of being buses or trucks.
Be glad to hear more from your ACTIAL EXPERIENCE when using Defy, as most of us haven't even seen the real thing.
Anonymous, 16 Sep 20101: "It's the strongest Android phone available" (2x) Strong like in tough? No big de... moreCheck what Moto 800Mhz CPU can do.
2 upcoming Moto midle end phone only 800Mhz.
Moto MB520 Jordan annonced as Defy for TMobile with 3.7 inch
Moto MB525 Kobi and with 4.3 inch for AT&T
Both with 800Mhz and android 2.1 but beat Galaxy S.
Compare to Samsung Galaxy s a high end phone with 1Ghz.
Anonymous, 16 Sep 20101: "It's the strongest Android phone available" (2x) Strong like in tough? No big de... moreRead again what I post. Do not post for pleasure and reply to me because you hate Moto.
I said maybe can update to HD video.
Can also update to 2.2
I did compare it with upcoming phones that have same CPU and it better. Which android phone can last 30 minute under water 1 m deep? Only Defy now you can with B Berry but it's not amdroid and I hate BB phones.
Moto Defy it's special and Ophar W made it so popular in is show. She only comment about 1 android phone in the past HTC Evo and now it's Jordan android Moto phone call Defy.
Whatever, you don't like it but I do so keep voting down Moto phone hater.