I came to a conclusion after my experience with all different mobile phones :-
Motorola - very modern looking phones but with difficult menu. Screen resolution not so good with those 4 letter models!
Nokia - Very reliable, durable & user friendly phones. CON: Some phone models have tiny text size/fonts which make reading difficult.
SE - Packed with lots of features & the best camera in the business. CON: Unstable reception in some models.......e.g. K800, but my 610 is fine.
Samsung - Packed with gadgets. Main screen is usually bright & color sharp. Text size are big & easy to read( Except the numeric "0" which has a line across the "0", making confusion with the "8" easily. CON: Recent phones all look similar, also too wide & flat which make the phones uncomfortable. Weak battery, weak & un-stable reception. From my own experience with so many different Samsung phones, these phones always came up with something wrong after 3 to 4 weeks of regular use, & this seem to be a norm with Samsung phones!( Remember there was nothing wrong in the beginning ).
BTW: the price of th krzr k1 its 450$. by that and just a little more you can get n73 k800!! that overcome it features in every aspect. or EVEN for a lesser price around 300$ a n70 a really recommended phone.
and your motoroal will probably cause u cancer because of the high SAR!!! the moto L7 have 1.58!!!!!! in america the limit its 1.6 its barely passed!
motorola have good designer.... thats true but their features are a YEAR late. their interface it way behind Nokia and sony ericsson.
when people get sick of razr moto that its already happening razr sales are dropping so will motorola
Even though I'm not a Moto lover but I would suggest you NOT to waste your time in comparing KRZR with 8800 just because they are available at the same time and on the main page of GSmarena side by side.
It doesn't worth comparing 8800, the most feature-less piece of crap with a high price tag with any phone at all. 8800 falls under the "Exclusive" crap. Its not for everyone. I'm sure those who will buy it will show it off and when getting a call, simply answer ---- "Hey, how its going..listen I'm on the other line..so let me call you back from MY OTHER PHONE". Lol.
Although I agree it is more rational to purchase a KRZR K1 over a 8800 SE, it really annoys me to see the number of "business people" and "rich folk" walk around with the whole "RAZR" type phones and are just regular people who are showing off.
Personally I love Nokia ALOT more than Motorola and I would purchase the 8800 SE over any Motorola any day.
finally, a forum where people can talk about the good phones out there!!
Im sooo sick of hearing about how good that stupid 8800SE is!! All it is good for is a paperweight lol
The KRZR K1 has it all... and it looks hot. I couldn't sk for more in a phone.
Now, all u moto haters out there, get a grip on reality and come over to our side where the GOOD mobiles are!! hehe
"The design simply carries on the old V3 theme. They cost a lot when released but drop 80% of their value within a few weeks."
oh yes, because adding an indented thumb print has kept the 8800SE design so new. the 8800 is over a year old pal, hello! open your eyes!
and of course we want our phones to remain expensive because they're like cars and we need them to hold their value for trade-ins and what not. how ridiculous. nokia purposely keeps that phone expensive just so you think it's special. they could be selling it for $200 if they wanted to! and you fall for it like a wimp!
i didn't ask your personal opinion of motorola phone. i'm going by fact. fact is that motorola has fitted more features into a smaller, thinner case that's just as attractive for less than half the money. it is also more useful as a quadband world roaming handset. you cannot argue this, just give pityful "moto sucks" jargon.
"Well, 6hr talk and 300hr standby is B.S.! (256k color scr. + MP3 + Bluetooth!). We all know from previous exp. that Moto and SE greatly exagurate batterry life spec."
the battery times are inflated of course. but motorola is not the most notorious for this. infact i point you to a european study that actually tested phones's battery lives in comparison to what the manufacturer states:
nokia came out some of the biggest losers, their chunky brick n-series phones as well as.. well, what do we have here:
"For instance, the Nokia 8800 has a list price of more than $600 and still falls short of 3,5 hours of talk time. Many of Nokia's other flagships, such as the 3250 and 6233, have just as poor battery life."
you know what one of the top handsets were? THE MOTOROLA RAZR V3 with 6 HOURS vs. the manufacturer rated 7 HOURS. the V3, which is thinner than the 8800, has DOUBLE THE BATTERY LIFE. and that's with a 262,000 color screen and bluetooth pal! you know what the battery of the V3 is? li-ion 680mAh. how could the KRZR K1 not maintain similar times with a higher capacity?!?!
motorola rates k1 at almost 7 hours. that's why i say krzr will be double the 8800se. i'm taking into account the inflated times and adjusting and when all is said and done, the krzr k1 will still beat the 8800se's horrible battery life by a far margin! all in a smaller package! all for less than half the price! all in a design which, when letting sales talk (even when V3 was expensive it sold more at a faster rate), has been more widely accepted across the globe!
anybody else need their ass handed to them?
OK, AT LEAST SOME IMPROVEMENT:
1)Finally a normal Keypad layout on Motorola!
2)Stereo Bluetooth profile (A2DP)
-Too thin again! (uncomfortable to hold!)
-Due to thinness is Batterry capacity of only 780 mAh.
Well, 6hr talk and 300hr standby is B.S.! (256k color scr. + MP3 + Bluetooth!). We all know from previous exp. that Moto and SE greatly exagurate batterry life spec.
How can you even compare this to a nokia 8800 for desing or N80 for features? Motorola phone are garbage, unreliable and outdated. The design simply carries on the old V3 theme. They cost a lot when released but drop 80% of their value within a few weeks. This thing just screems bad taste.
oh yeah, and i keep forgetting to mention one of the most important factors of all.
the KRZR K1 is QUADBAND!!!!!!
i couldn't agree more, saimon. the krzr k1 is smaller, thinner and lighter yet it has twice the battery life of the 8800se, faster data and a microSD slot. that longer battery also has to power -two screens- btw. all in an arguably more attractive package.
nokia was outgunned on this one. moto made sure it was released right along the 8800. look at the front page of gsmarena, in stores now section. there together head to head.
Yeah the greatest phone I had ever seen!It si very nice and beatiful like a pussicat.
K1 have light pack and Full pack ( including bluetooth, hf, cable ),before u buy, make sure what they comes with. light-around $386 USd, full-around $430
Sad another crappy moto phone with the same messed up design and repetitive USER Interface. For god sakes at least try to attempt some effort into R%D. Sad...
Just picked one up at the shop for US$400 only(discounted already). Nice to hold because of the overall slim design(slim do not mean thin, flat & wide like recent Samsung phones which are uncomfortable to hold).
I only brought the Nokia 8800 sirocco yesterday & this K1 today, so I can only give basic comparison of this phone with my black 8800 sirocco :-
The blue colour K1 is shiny & sharp(the new Nokia 8800 sirocco in black is also very shiny).
I prefer the look of my original 8800 to the sirocco. Regarding the look of the K1, it's very modern but not as classy looking as the 8800.
Feel of the sirocco is solid but the K1 is not bad either.
The K1 does not look much narrower than the sirocco but it feels a lot narrower in your hand. K1 is also thinner.
The K1 screen resolution is not in the same class as the sirocco(my Moto A1200 beats them both). Don't understand why Motorola is still using the same resolution as my old V3 or my D&G V3i ?
The flip of the K1 is very easy to open & close with one hand.
The MENU is almost the same as the Moto V3 series.
I have to play more with this 2 phones to tell which one is better.......even though the 8800 is more than double the price of thr K1.
450$?!!??! just for 2mpx more an EDGE?? that razr didn't have! motorola its stupid.. by that price you can get a k800,d900, n73. sad sad