Gino76, 30 Dec 2017I don't take plenty (i.e. thousands of photos) or watch Youtube all day. And I don't even have... more11pm... 20-25% at 11pm. Most of the time.
Im not exactly a camera type user, but you can find many videos about camera quality. For me, like totally enthusiast, quality and performance are good enough.My main complaint is depth mode and lack of eis on 4K video recording. Edge detection on depth mode is absolutely poor. 4K video is good but very shaky. Cant say about night pictures bcoz didn't take much. But again, lack of ois will take effect of the focus and details, I think. But again... Search on youtube and you'll find much detailed reviews.
kubar, 30 Dec 2017I mean after few camera software updates, now shutter speed is better than bfor.
Watter proo... moreI don't take plenty (i.e. thousands of photos) or watch Youtube all day. And I don't even have Facebook (which is the numero uno battery drain of all time) and I'm quite knowledgeable with Android in saving battery life so i think I will know how to squeeze enough juice out of that 3000mAh battery.
But do you mean at the end of the day (say 9pm) you would still have about 20-30% left in the tank?
That's good if the shutter speed is faster now. But I want to know about the camera quality and performance in general. How about telling us about low light shots? Overexposure on bright backgrounds or surroundings? Any purple/orange fringing when on night or on direct light? Is there resolved detail i.e. the corners and backgrounds subjects appear as sharp and slightly blurred out? Are the photos tend to be on warmer or cooler side? Is the actual photo close to what you actually see - is it contrasty or bland in colour?
It would be great to know these things.
Gino76, 30 Dec 2017What do you exactly mean by camera working "better now"? Care to elaborate more please.
Speak... moreI mean after few camera software updates, now shutter speed is better than bfor.
Watter proof is like it should be. No problem at all. Wash it few times already. No damage.
Apps opens instantly. No lag etc.
For battery... All day without any problems for me. I didn't play games. Facebook, Youtube, Google plus, Instagram, Browser, Camera. Plug in to charger most of the time on 20-25% Battery life is very good.
kubar, 30 Dec 2017After few updates camera works better now. I'm sure after oreo they will improve even more. Ba... moreWhat do you exactly mean by camera working "better now"? Care to elaborate more please.
Speakers any loud/louder than the G5 phones?
Water resistant coating working well? No internal water damage so far when it got wet?
Do apps load instantly or almost instantly?
Battery life lasts the whole day the very least?
Gino76, 29 Dec 2017What's attracting me to this phone is the seemingly A1 hardware and specs. But I'm also hearin... moreAfter few updates camera works better now. I'm sure after oreo they will improve even more. Battery life is awesome. Fast charging is great. Battery backup is great. Ram management is one of the things that can be improved. For example, i have installed 82-86 apps, most used fb, viber, chrome, youtube, google plus and instagram, in background and have around 1,0-1,3gb free ram constantly. I feel low ram state once when put a rainpaper live wallpaper. Then ram was around 600-700mb free. For me phone works well. Mine is 64/4gb. System storage is little bit more. Use around 16.44gb which is too much i think. Overall phone is solid.
I just played with Alexa a little. Not sure if I'll ever use it. "OK Google" is so much better. I will try the Moto voice but not sure it has much to offer.
Homer-Simpson, 29 Dec 2017Hi, what is the best way to update to 8.0 Oreo? By OTA or by computer? How long does take ov... moreI update via my wi-fi directly to the phone. The time it takes depends on your network speed. Direct to my phone doesn't take long on my 350Mb/s wi-fi.
What's attracting me to this phone is the seemingly A1 hardware and specs. But I'm also hearing very negative reviews such as an unoptimized software especially in the camera, battery life, memory management departments.
Between this and the G5Plus (or G5S) which one is better in those departments
Hi, what is the best way to update to 8.0 Oreo?
By OTA or by computer?
How long does take over?
Dark Shadow 23, 29 Dec 2017With above average usage i get one day. And charging speed is also good. Not as good as one pl... morethis kind of reply is what i like when asking for battery endurance lol. thanks sir for this
Most of the time screen on time is around 6hrs to me. Depends of what i'm using, but 5-6hrs is like standard. Stand by time can be better in my opinion. Feels like it not that great.
Jussi, 28 Dec 2017How's its real-life battery endurance? I actually like the design, it stands out from many of ... moreWith above average usage i get one day. And charging speed is also good. Not as good as one plus 5 (that is awesome), but this one is i believe 2nd best (there might be some costlier phones that can charge slightly faster) but definitely unbeatable at the price.
I never checked screen on time but definitely it is beyond 6 hours for me as i use light apps. M not a fb user. Little bit of quora, lots of wats ap, some camera usage (every now and then someone comes to see the quality so you consider 20 shots a day or 10-12 mins of viewfinder being turned on at an average). phone dies for me by 8 PM everyday. i charge and then sleep. Which takes 1.5 hours for a complete charge (which I do only once a weeK), as such i go upto 88% charge every night and my day starts from 80% charge that lasts till evening 8.
How's its real-life battery endurance? I actually like the design, it stands out from many of those iPhonish looking devices ...
Superb.. Fast Internet, great camera & water proof..... What else u want ????
Dark Shadow 23, 28 Dec 2017icon size setings-
Settings > Display > Display size ( i did not understand your proble... moreThanks. I have been talking with Moto Support Level 2 on Moto Key and they are pretty clueless. Works well on the phone but not with my Win Desktop. Just found a long article on it so will have to read it over.
As for the icons, I found that setting and have a compromise of 4 x 4 that is OK.
Thanks for the feedback.
Android V8.0 update soon to be avail for the STANDARD X4 in India. The rest of the world soon after.
Darude Sandstorm, 26 Dec 2017The phone is nice but no 18:9 ratio. Not a deal breaker but still.
I am either going for Hono... more18:9 is not that bad in fact you may start liking it once you start using it.
honor 7x looks good but surely moto x has a better build. Also i am not sure about the performance of the device although reviews are good. I have no idea of mediatek processors so cant comment.
Q6 very bad processor so out of question.
G5 plus is something that lacks a dual camera but i can tell you without thinking twice dual camera is a gimmick and that blurr can be achieved by a 2 MB software installed through playstore. Although it wont be that simple but once you master it it will be even better than the dual camera gimmick. And for sure g5 plus has best camera among all of mid range phones. I am using x4. Its camera is not bad (definitely you have to install google hdr+ because stock app is laggy and not that good. But for some particular shots it is more capable so i am using both depending on the shot. I can share images if anyone wants to see). Point is that if camera is priority - low light , natural colors g5 plus is unbeatable. f1.7 helps it a lot.
Mi a1 is also not a bad phone . It does not have that crappy interface of xiaomi plus portrait mode (that 2 MB software) works the best in this device. Moto x4 also cant compete (but perhaps with google hdr+ lens blur it may give better shots as i have not compared side by side yet). So mi a1 is for stock android and portrait mode.
U11 not worth.
Nokia 7 - Can be considered. depends on price. Its camera will be able to compete with g5 plus in terms of quality which no other can do in whole lot. So might be a tough competitor to x4.
Its just that x4 has the build, wide angle lens (barely usable but still if you are creative enough you can), IP 68 (no other has), Voice commands (awesome which hardly any phone has in this range), USB C, very good quality speaker and definitely one of the best IPS displays. Camera has to be installed (google HDR+ from XDA developers) rest of the things in this phone are better than what anyone can offer for this price.
Fulton, 27 Dec 2017Anyone know how to get the icon size to show 4 across and 5 rows? I'm just getting 4 x 4 with... moreicon size setings-
Settings > Display > Display size ( i did not understand your problem fully but this might help
I guess moto key will not work on windows 7 as it was released in 2009 and the moto key itself is a new feature released in 2017 only so very less chances are there that it will be compatible with that but still you should talk to motorola help center if they will be able to tell.