Anonymous, 29 Oct 2014if you are real engineer then you should know
1) android ui means home apk+ settings apk ( w... moreYou don't understand android development then. the apps of the OEMs are designed with their overlay in mind. The overlays are time consuming effort to change from stock to theirs every time a new OS release done. This also means sometimes making changes to their custom apps to accommodate for some changes in the OS that cant be compensated at overlay level.
OEMs don't care about the customer's after the sale is done they like to do minimal effort in terms of updates as much as possible because of things called profits and shareholders. They can avoid the expenses by simply making it stock and only change their apps to accommodate for the new overlays. Android has kept most of the overlays for the better part constant. Lollipop is the first major change in that area. These happen on a slow pace, even more reason not to touch the overlays and put in OEM rubbish.
Tap to wake or other useful features or even some useless gimmicks can be added without much effort if they so want to. This all means faster updates at minimal expense.
Custom UIs by OEMs add no value what so ever, they are all just an excuse to differential from the rest on first impressions.
Finally, you suggesting people to root their phones and install Xpose and other tools to tweak overlays? That has to be the weakest suggestion ever, you do realize not everyone wants to learn or be bothered with tampering with their phones right? Many don't even know these things but they want bloatfree pure stock experience. Exactly why nexus is getting so popular when it originally was merely aimed at developers.
SO again the solution to this is to stop these useless OEMs from coming out with their rubbish UIs, just focus on what they can do on their own i.e make better hardware. Leave the OS to the people who really know what they are doing in this case Google.
Anonymous, 29 Oct 2014Wouldn't even consider buying LG flagship because of the ridiculous back buttonsi've used g2 and now g3 the back buttons are a great ergomic feature took me about a week to get used to it but now love them makes so much sense
i am repeating . Any vendor/3rd party app which uses the same API which google provides , will have equal performance . Its not skin change . And all OEM have to pass CTS certification to ensure framework are under google standards .
So dont say LG skin /samsung skin / pure nexus ..
Its just home/launcher application what u see and google's one is a reference application with source open.
MHanz, 29 Oct 2014Wow now that's interesting, care to show us a link where someone has a my exact userID doing &... moreif you are real engineer then you should know
1) android ui means home apk+ settings apk ( what visible to user) this can be overlayed by vendor/apps/apks .
2) so basically pure android means android home apk+ seetings apk done by google which is meant to be replaced by any oem or 3rd party apps as per android design .. there should not be any performane improvement as even a ghz processor can drive thes simple apps
3)so if ur real engineer say android is customizable and meant to be customized and nexus is developer phone with minimum features . im not sure how u evaluating phone based on UI
nexus5+better camera+better battery+IR remote+better screen +UI(im using cloudy g3 )+quick memo+ = G2
u can make g2 flash with cyanogenmod rom to make it nexus and lose features but cant do the reverse way.
Hey G2/G3 owners , how many of you flashed pure android based ROM ..sorry joking apart as we know from this forum itself we enjoy LG UI than pure android. and G2/G3 sales prove the capability of device
Hmm, debating stock android vs oem skin.
Come on, it's all about taste. Personally i hate stock android. Now i'm still used ancient Optimus G Pro :D with G3 rom, and it's fantastic. LG flat UI has done a great job, all G3 feature except knock on (because kernel related feature) is there. And i think people who love stock android is advance user, so you can always flash cusrom aosp based. I believe 80%++ regular user out there like unique OEM skin
Well Done LG! Congratulations on your success and wish you do even better with G4!
A proud G3 owner!
MHanz, 29 Oct 2014Wow now that's interesting, care to show us a link where someone has a my exact userID doing &... moreBut I have seen people who seek flat exchange of Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 with LG G and G2 respectively. If they love pure android they wouldn't have done this.
I have an LG G2 for one year now and I really don't feel any need to upgrade. It's that good. I will probably upgrade to the upcoming G4 next year, just out of boredom :)
Good job, LG !
Anonymous, 29 Oct 2014MHanz is always acting in LG forums doing some negative marketing ..
To people support pure... moreWow now that's interesting, care to show us a link where someone has a my exact userID doing "marketing"? BTW I don't even know a word of marketing I am an engineer.
....Or just maybe you are the paid OEM agent here, in this case perhaps by LG?
I advocate stock android over any OEM's rubbish UIs not just LG, this includes Samsung, Sony, Huawei et al
MHanz, 29 Oct 2014The Oneplus One I recently bought is good example of how to maintain stock android overlays wh... moreMHanz is always acting in LG forums doing some negative marketing ..
To people support pure android ... is pure bloatware from Google . Atleast OEM will give some additional features . I am always using dual-tap,IR remote.quick memo,quick window case and many more etc and saw people crying the same for the nexus phone in xda-forums .
many people dont know nexus is just a developer/reference phone which google show the capability of the latest OS (which is buggy like bluetooth not working in 4.1 when released )
Anonymous, 29 Oct 2014I would not consider buying a phone that doesn't have back buttons.Now that I have a G3, I would not consider it either. The physical side buttons just seem like a waste of bezel.
nice LG, 29 Oct 2014I get what you're saying, and I agree in terms of the gestures, it is too gimmicky. I do think... moreThe Oneplus One I recently bought is good example of how to maintain stock android overlays while exposing a lot of options to tweak the phone to your needs. Endless options to change notification lights sounds, their speed, lockscreen, tap to wake and tap to sleep to name a few, just pure awesome.
No one needs these rubbish childish attempts from OEMs, just leave android as it is and this makes it easier to support a device for several years after launch.
Good job LG eventhough I don't own one haha. Hope you don't increase your prices as your pricing is already pretty darn good.