X, 08 Dec 2014Notice that no one plans to use the 64bit Tegra K1 chip in a phone. That's due to the way to h... moreThe K1 has a TDP of 4.5-5 watts, not 8-11 watts. Some phone chips have 4 watt TDP's but 2.5-3 watts is more the range.
Supremo, 09 Dec 2014What you think is right but you didn't get my point. I am saying that Nokia N8 which runs Symb... morealso remember that old apps where not as new apps
Supremo, 09 Dec 2014Split screen is a niche feature which is mostly found in some mid to high end Samsung phones ... morei get your point loved the 5800 and the n97 when i had them but they just dropped it when android and windows came in i just hope that android 5.0 take advantage of the hardware phones have
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Apple has 64 bit OS and only 1GB of RAM. It is a matter of optimization. No, it's a matter of laughing all the way to the bank.
Matt, 08 Dec 2014I'm confused , what the he'll is the faff about 64 bit? It's just a hype you can't really tel... moreDude, Samsung upped the Note4 to QHD over the Note 3 1080 res and still reduced the battery usage across the board. Don't forget that the res doesn't really effect power drain unless you are dealing in 3D Graphics (running at QHD and not a 1080 res) otherwise, desktop res matters not.
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014And if you were lucky enough to get the exynos 5433 note 4, you will even get a taste of 64bit... moreYes, this was a great disappointment that they don't sell it in Germany. :( More MOD action happening on the XDA forum for Samsung's chip variant, the QUALCOMM is getting no love.
nickysor, 08 Dec 2014I think that n8 can't match the performance of sd800 bunch of phones, let alone sd805 or upcom... moreWhat you think is right but you didn't get my point. I am saying that Nokia N8 which runs Symbian on a average processor, GPU and got low RAM according to today's standards can multitask with 50 apps and still have some RAM free. So, the point is, Symbian Belle is resource efficient and gets things done with less processing power and low RAM which in turn doesn't take a toll on battery life. :) Here's hoping for Android L to be less hungry on resources.
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014split screen is just enough to beat the n8, and sure android is not 100% optimized since it co... moreSplit screen is a niche feature which is mostly found in some mid to high end Samsung phones in the Android world. Moreover, you can't find it in most of the phones. Nokia N8 got a shitty processor and paltry RAM according to today's standards but it can run 50 apps and still have some RAM free. This is how efficient Symbian Belle is.
As much as I hate Apple products I, I have to agree with this statement. Companies spend too much time concentrating on raw power and neglects optimization. Its sad that the average consumer is complaining that their battery won't last a day's of charge.
And its amazing how apple got their team together and start actually manufacturing, for once, a useful chip processor that is quite a leap ahead. If SD wants part in the game they should think "better and more efficient cores, not more cores". Tech giant companies like Sony or (I'm just picking names) should focus on optics and not megappixel count.
Better display, not bigger.
Efficient cores, nor more.
Not to mention this all boils down to battery technology.
Supremo, 08 Dec 2014And Android even with twice the RAM, twice the processing power can't multitask like the legen... moreI think that n8 can't match the performance of sd800 bunch of phones, let alone sd805 or upcoming sd810.
Notice that no one plans to use the 64bit Tegra K1 chip in a phone. That's due to the way to high TDP(Thermal Design Power) to be acceptable in a phone (8-11W) while Apple's A8 processor has a TDP of only 2W. It seems that Qualcomm runned into the same problem as nVidia. The problem stems from the high frequency(2.5 GHz vs 1.4GHz for Apple), chip scale(28nm vs 20nm for Apple), the chip architecture and software(both optimised for eachother in Apple's case). The only possibility for Qualcom and nVidia to scale down the TDP is to reduce the frequency of the chips, since they can't reduce the scales. But that will decrease the performance, meaning the Apple's A8 CPU will reign supreme until the next Apple chip generation. But the Android OEMs are practically toast. H1 means first half of the year(not Q1, first quarter) meaning that the Qualcomm chip will be ready only at the middle of the year, and on the phones only at the end of the year. And remember, that chip will be less powerful than, by that time, one year old Apple A8 chip. And by that time, the new Apple chip will be even more powerfull, and it is possible to be twice as powerfull as the chips on the new Android phones at the time. And this will matter for the buyers!
Supremo, 08 Dec 2014And Android even with twice the RAM, twice the processing power can't multitask like the legen... moresplit screen is just enough to beat the n8, and sure android is not 100% optimized since it could do more with the ram and proccesor they have but hope it will improve with 5.0 version
Snapdragon 810 is a bit slower processor comparing to available 32bit chipsets.. Not every 64bit processor is faster than 32bit processor.
Matt, 08 Dec 2014I'm confused , what the he'll is the faff about 64 bit? It's just a hype you can't really tel... moreBattery time? They'll ruin that by putting in 32 CPU cores into the SoC. :-/ Gotza haf moar of doze CORES!!!
20nm? Would wait for a 5 nm or 14 nm processor.
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014icraps don't multitask as androids doAnd Android even with twice the RAM, twice the processing power can't multitask like the legendary Nokia N8.
I'm confused , what the he'll is the faff about 64 bit? It's just a hype you can't really tell the difference. In much more interested in the 20 nanometer sized chip. Moar battery! And yes I'm waiting for the new xperia z4
Dear Sony I'm fully ok if you use 805 instead of 810 if 810 overheats, and please pair that with 1080p screen not that qhd chap, again Moar battery.
People here are really spec driven huh?
So xperia z4 won't have 810.
Don't worry, they will come with a free asbestos glove.
AnonD-307714, 08 Dec 2014Sorry dude, while your brief lesson was ok its not really perfect. The RAM requirement for an... moreAnd if you were lucky enough to get the exynos 5433 note 4, you will even get a taste of 64bit with android L (if samsung chooses to compile a 64bit version that is).. Samsung didn't market the exynos note 4 as 64bit cos of the snapdragon note4 / kitkat not really supporting or compiled for 64bit I guess..
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