gigabyte did it before but samsung now....... even better ,1 ghz excellent but i wonder how will the new mobile micro motherboard on which the new excellent voltage performance processor look like ?
hardware or software, 28 Jul 2009"1080p full HD recording on a mobile phone" WOW and the quality would be still ordinary as mob... moreSeems like i mixed my facts up and became a little exagerated, Sorry guys the tegra prototype shown on MWC 09 shows some 720p videos at a 3D carousel interface - in Live!. and the Qualcomm snapdragon QSD8250 used in TG01 and will be used in both Xperia vulcan and rachael can render 22million 3D triangles per second. i just learned that snapdragon is using AMD Z430 chip which is essentially the same with the AMD/ATi chip used in XBOX 360! both tegra and snapdragon can render 12Mpixel images and record D1 videos at H.264 format - not the nasty 720i H.263 3Gp gimmick that samsung has to offer with Omnia HD. the two engines can PLAY 1080p videos at 22-24fps.
Tegras have enough power to playback 1080p@24Hz/720p@60Hz (just), but not enough to record it.
razec, 28 Jul 2009I wonder how this gimmick is going to last, i don't care about its 2000MIDPS speed if the grap... moreA PC has unlimited power to draw on to run a graphics card compared to a phone.
Wait until fuel cells are developed then there will be enough power to run advanced chips to their full potential.
Overheating is also an issue you can run fans and water cooling to a PC graphics card but I can't see it happening on a phone.
"1080p full HD recording on a mobile phone" WOW and the quality would be still ordinary as mobile phone lenses are pretty bad.
Its unbelievable how many people get excited over processor speed, megapixels, memory etc etc. Take a look at the iphone, very average camera, only just got video, no memory card, low res non amloed screen etc etc but the usability and apps are the best by a mile which is why they are so successful. Once some of these companies start spending on software not hardware they will start making money.
(PS APPLE the home screen is starting to get a bit tired..... people dont realy need 20 icons on their screen, most would prefer N97 widget style)
I wonder how this gimmick is going to last, i don't care about its 2000MIDPS speed if the grapgics chip is as crappy as the old Arm cortex A8 used in omnia HD. Nvidia despite the 600Mhz clock beats every single mobile chips in terms of graphics rendering. just look at the amazing nvidia prototype viewing several 1080p videos at once in an awesome 3D carousel view. Snapdragon is powered by an unknown AMD gpu which is imo an ATi imageon chip capable of computing over 8 million 3d triangles per second. it's like comparing intel vs amd with the former using a crappy intel chipset while the latter using AMD790FX!
just imagine all the apps & game you can play on this baby...it's mad....muahahahahahhahah
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2009I am not super tech savvy but I have a theoretical question, with the release and implementati... moreAlso its micro-sd hc to be correct but in development is a new x-series cards that go up to 2 TB ..These should start at 64 MB and only read a bit about them in pda mag..Someone put earlier about tegra being at 40nm ive never heard of this size electronics but will find out and not saying its untrue just never heard of this size,,plus,,tegra was mentioned months if not years ago,,are we ever going to see it exist in this future economic climate..??? Doing self learned computer science course ,,anyone on hear studied java its rudy complicated ...
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2009I am not super tech savvy but I have a theoretical question, with the release and implementati... moreThey have sort of with the UMPC,, but its such a waste with a 4 inch screen limit before it starts to become a UMPC rather than a mobile..
Shinigami, 28 Jul 20091280x720 = 0.92 mp, 24 times per second (or was it 22 at most?) 1920x1080 = 2.07 mp, which is... moreNvidia needs to stop using ARM11 cores in their Tegras and start using Cortex ones. It's all very well and good to have fast GPU performance, but it's small consolation if the majority of software (which is CPU-bound) is sluggish.
1280x720 = 0.92 mp, 24 times per second (or was it 22 at most?)
1920x1080 = 2.07 mp, which is more than twice the resolution. My guess is 15 fps. Besides, if battery drain will double, the device will run out of juice in 10-20 minutes of video recording.
We need Nvidia Tegra 40nm yesterday.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2009It shouldn't be a problem for the UNIX kernel of OSX as seen in the iPhone OS.Or Nokia's Maemo. The problem is not getting an OS to run on it, but getting an OS with a good GUI and sufficiently large software library that people would actually want to use it.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2009The only limitation is that there aren't many OSs that have kernals compatible with ARM, and e... moreIt shouldn't be a problem for the UNIX kernel of OSX as seen in the iPhone OS.
David, Sweden, 28 Jul 2009Sorry, answered my own post, i menat to answer this one. Exactly, that's what i mean, 2000 DMI... moreThe Cortex A8 is already much faster than the PSP. The MIPSIII architecture would be lucky if it even managed 1/10th of the instructions per clock of the ARMv7 architecture, and that is without even considering the three times faster clock rate compared to the PSP's 333MHz processor.
The Cortex A8 is about on par with the Pentium III and PowerPC G3 in terms of instructions per clock, although obviously with much better power consumption figures. In that sense it's more like a desktop computer at the turn of the century than some limited portible device.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2009The snapdragon CPU doesn't compare to this beast even though both are rated at 1Ghz. It's n... moreSorry, answered my own post, i menat to answer this one. Exactly, that's what i mean, 2000 DMIPS in a 1ghz processor makes it 2.0 DMIPS/MHz, which enables amazing high CPU clock speeds, increasing CPU performance and cutting down on power. I can the portable games you can make for such mobile processor. You might be looking at games that look much better than PSP. Snapdragon is gonna get run over big time if Samsung puts this in their phones. Can wait to see what image processors can be used with this one, we might at lat be able to take real HD clips, not laggy fake ones that mobile phones have now.
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2009I am not super tech savvy but I have a theoretical question, with the release and implementati... moreThe only limitation is that there aren't many OSs that have kernals compatible with ARM, and especially not for the full Cortex A8 instruction set and with the capabilities to support multithreading. I'm sure there'd be a version of Linux out there that's capable, but there probably wouldn't be much software for it. I wouldn't be surprised if Google's Chrome OS supports Cortex A8 processors, but that's still a bit off.
The snapdragon CPU doesn't compare to this beast even though both are rated at 1Ghz.
It's not all about how many Hz. Clock for clock there is nothing on the market that can compete with the Cortex.
I am not super tech savvy but I have a theoretical question, with the release and implementation of newer phones with faster and faster processors such as this, coupled with the HDSC being able to have up to 32GB of memory what would stop someone from actually putting a desktop OS on a mobile phone?