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Xiaomi infringes Ericsson patents, ordered to stop sales in India Comments

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  • Genius
  • wdL
  • 10 Dec 2014

AnonD-309678, 10 Dec 2014Well, Xiaomi are selling their phones actually cheaper in India than in China. This might be t... moreNo phone regardless of hardware currently costs more than $225. That's the highest cost to manufacture a phone in China and various brands sell theirs with varying amounts of margin. Xiaomi just sells them for a lesser margin. For those who want to cry R&D costs, Apple spends less than 3% on R&D.

The patents in question are SEPs which are required to implement a standard to specification and absolutely required to be used by every manufacturer using that standard. The committee creating and enforcing a standard is supposed to get the license for the requisite parents and make them available to the implementers of the standards. This is prevent companies from excluding competitors resulting in unfair market. In this case, Ericsson has patents which qualify as SEPs which they are selectively using against companies that they want to damage.

Whats even more interesting is that we are talking about a country which gives absolutely no protection to medical patents of foreign companies. Many new drugs introduced in the market are allowed to be copied by local pharma companies and sold cheaply and they also make it tough for the original company to sell locally. Of course the original parent holder is still held accountable for any side effects etc caused by the copies.

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    • Anonymous
    • 6u9
    • 10 Dec 2014

    A copy-cat company. No one will know or care about them in three years.

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      • AnonD-201061
      • rAe
      • 10 Dec 2014

      AnonD-4470, 10 Dec 2014What patents?Same hear.

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        • AnonD-201061
        • rAe
        • 10 Dec 2014

        1s is still In stock on flipkart...

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          • AnonD-243873
          • Xu@
          • 10 Dec 2014

          Muthu, 10 Dec 2014Why do you think Samsung will be the beneficiary? Why not Micromax, Lava and most importantly ... moreThat's because these companies are not involved in predatory pricing but xiaomi is they have their own miui.They are selling handset in disruptive way called flash sales.They are creating a storm in India by this way.Samsung are only brand Indians love that is changing because of flash sales by xiaomi. Now very much happy that no more flash sales nonsense nd black marketing.

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            • Anonymous
            • 2@t
            • 10 Dec 2014

            AnonD-340222, 10 Dec 2014I wonder y it take's high court just hours to hit livelihood of many and years to solve rape a... moreErr Criminal courts are different from Civil courts (Though they really should fix the law and order system here)

            Ericsson already has cases on against Micromax / Intex / Gionee.. Sadly Xiaomi decided to ignore Ericsson's repeated notices which made it very easy for them to getting a sales injunction (But the case is not closed.. it will now go on for ages till the resolve the issue..)

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              • AnonD-4470
              • mGJ
              • 10 Dec 2014

              What patents?

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                • Anonymous
                • 2@t
                • 10 Dec 2014

                People who don't know much but come up with conspiracy theories:
                1. Samsung can't be behind it cos Ericsson is part of 'Rockstar Consortium' which had sued Samsung. So they aren't exactly friends.
                2. Ericsson hasn't made consumer phones in ages. But they hold patent/IP to quite a large number of technologies. So to use them you have to pay..

                Xiaomi must realise that India isn't China where patents don't mean anything..

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                  • AnonD-324565
                  • uts
                  • 10 Dec 2014

                  This was just waiting to happen after they came out of China.......the IP laws are so bad in China that even Lenovo makes iPhone knock offs

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 2@t
                    • 10 Dec 2014

                    AnonD-146024, 10 Dec 2014I wonder how apple hasn't sued xiami as miui looks undoubtedly a iOS rip off.Xiaomi isn't a threat to Apple's main market like U.S.
                    Plus suing in China wouldn't get them anywhere.. IP Laws are not really strict there.
                    They have iphone clones which are exact copies but no one cares..

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                      • Muthu
                      • 9Lc
                      • 10 Dec 2014

                      AnonD-243873, 10 Dec 2014Good move by samsung .Now let's hope Samsung with their pathetic products get hold of low or m... moreWhy do you think Samsung will be the beneficiary? Why not Micromax, Lava and most importantly Motorola? They are also selling phones cheaper than Samsung and are likely to benefit more fom this verdict than Samsung.

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                        • Chandan
                        • GZ1
                        • 10 Dec 2014

                        Xiaomi rocks .

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                          • AnonD-315724
                          • pqI
                          • 10 Dec 2014

                          So, what's a company who was once a world leader in mobile phone technology do when nobody is interested in buying their aging, non-innovative, has been, expensive phones anymore?
                          Resort to lawfare. For those who can't, anymore.

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                            • AnonD-78264
                            • PEW
                            • 10 Dec 2014

                            AnonD-324589, 10 Dec 2014100% agree with youyeah, that's my point too :)

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                              • Peter
                              • uv3
                              • 10 Dec 2014

                              AnonD-243873, 10 Dec 2014Good move by samsung .Now let's hope Samsung with their pathetic products get hold of low or m... moreWhy ar u contradicting ur own words please explain

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                                • AnonD-324589
                                • Px}
                                • 10 Dec 2014

                                Ericsson is no more in India, Who is behind it?

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • y$h
                                  • 10 Dec 2014

                                  More high u stand, more strong the wind blow. If u can pass, the glorius will be yours.

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                                    • AnonD-241589
                                    • J1B
                                    • 10 Dec 2014

                                    derrick, 10 Dec 2014Nobody cares about Ericsson LOLEricsson is a strong holder of essential patents in the wireless industry and have approximately 35,000 granted patents in 2012...

                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericsson

                                    So Xiaomi Should care ...

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                                      • xeres
                                      • spw
                                      • 10 Dec 2014

                                      xiami boss - we had to buy a license to use this Technology ??

                                      we are not used to do this in china...

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                                        • stobs
                                        • utY
                                        • 10 Dec 2014

                                        AnonD-340222, 10 Dec 2014I wonder y it take's high court just hours to hit livelihood of many and years to solve rape a... morethis is applicable for all countries, not only for your country. it is easier to determine whether a patent has been infringed. its a matter of documentation and is rather straight-forward.

                                        but it is difficult to determine if a case of rape is a genuine one or a fake accusation by a woman with bad morals. if it is handled carelessly, it is even more easier to destroy the life of a person who is accused of rape but has done nothing. which is why rape cases take a while to get solved, even in so-called straight-forward cases.

                                        the woman may have had a bondage fetish for all you know (take fifty shades of grey). it is up to the court to look past the obfuscation and determine things properly.

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