Sony Xperia Z4 photo sample surfaces Comments
- Anonymous
- 8HR
darkraver, 08 Apr 2015You are... A lost case of a mindless rambler never providing any proof for your claims
Attack... moreActually I did initially. You just side tracked and denied like usual.
You have a bias jealous set of beliefs and will deny it at every point. The proof is still in the fact that you are the one always bashing and trying to make Samsung or another non Sony phone have all these exaggerated issues. It's basically every comment you post.
But I'd love for you to find one of mine like that.
- darkraver
- Mj{
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015Yeah when you lie that much in the first few words I could care leas what you are rambling abo... moreYou are... A lost case of a mindless rambler never providing any proof for your claims
Attack is best defense strategy for ignorance in your case...
Enjoy your bubble troll
:-)
- Anonymous
- 8HR
darkraver, 08 Apr 2015Never random claiming, but based on facts, always providing much links to prove my point, as o... moreYeah when you lie that much in the first few words I could care leas what you are rambling about. Come back when you have facts. You've been debunked as usual and making a bunch of denial and excuses like usual
- Anonymous
- 8HR
darkraver, 08 Apr 2015Peaceful peeacemaker...ahah, love that. :-)
Never claimed to be one, Im in a sort of war act... moreNo... You never talked about you live on the peaceful Sony island with all the other Sony fans where nobody lies or is a fanboy. It's all peaceful. And it's everyone else that attacks all of you.
And whatever other denial you rambled on afterwards is irrelevant
- darkraver
- Spp
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015Of course you will deny all the facts to say such random things. Like you do in every single o... moreNever random claiming, but based on facts, always providing much links to prove my point, as opossed to most of my debaters,
you should at least respect that, if you cant agree
So, I hope for imx230 sensor in z4, and you can keep your OIS s6 camera bump, Sony obviously has a different angle on tbe subject, we will compare and see,
just dont start with the review from this site as it is...well, lets just say my personal observations after thorough examinations are... quite different to their claims
Try and offer some of your own proof just like I do, like I wished to do here, but am not allowed to post those links...
You say OIS is better, prove it, dont just rant about it...
- darkraver
- Spp
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015Of course you will deny all the facts to say such random things. Like you do in every single o... moreN
- darkraver
- Spp
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015You shouldn't assume someone doesn't understand these things and go on self entitled explanati... moreNope, still I will claim there is no need for OIS, with a proper advanced sensor and software
And yes, sonys steadyshot stabilisation is an unmatched wonder, comparing recorded video with an OIS device it turns out looking better, although at cost of some detail loss
But new imx sensor promises to solve even that, so OIS camera bumps would be redundant.
Sony is I believe going that way, and we like it
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- darkraver
- m@H
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015Of course you will deny all the facts to say such random things. Like you do in every single o... morePeaceful peeacemaker...ahah, love that. :-)
Never claimed to be one, Im in a sort of war actually, always proving with some facts that sony is better yes.
Said my opinion based on actual photos to compare, I salute you for even doing that, going there and comparing yourself, thats a good start....
And you are wrong
But then again we do have the same this and that conditions on this sites compare tool to more properly compare phone cameras....
But nobody looks at those, they judge by comparing review shots and review opinions,cwhich is wrong
So go there and compare z3 wih note4 OIS, and try not to be bias
Once z4 is out, we ll properly compare it with s6, is
- Anonymous
- kr@
nick, 08 Apr 2015F/2.4 (it should be 2.3 to be specific) doesn't mean much, you have to combine it with the siz... moreYou shouldn't assume someone doesn't understand these things and go on self entitled explanations just because what they said does not praise what you have a bias love towards. Especially if what they said is factual.
Yes they have a large sensor. But large sensor alone doesn't cut it. And it's far from the largest sensor. And their software let's them down often. Especially if it lacks OIS.
If they would simply add in OIS and overhaul the software thing would get A LOT better. And the aperture would help a lot too.
There is no reason to make up excuses because these factual things are stated.
- Anonymous
- kr@
nick, 08 Apr 2015OIS isn't as great as many people think. Z3's digital image stabilization is great. Especially... moreYou just proved you bias fan stance with this.
Yes there stabilizing is good. But it in no way outshines OIS.
And saying OIS is not that great just to defend someone not having it is illogical.
- nick
- ntE
M3BA , 07 Apr 2015Sony Xperia Z4 is camera model imx 230 (21mp, 1/2.4). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor No, it's IMX220 from the Z3 because it is a refreshed Z3. Z4 may have IMX230 but we are going to see it before the end of the year.
- nick
- ntE
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015If it retains this type of processing, an F2.4, and no OIS Sony is reverting back to the Sony ... moreF/2.4 (it should be 2.3 to be specific) doesn't mean much, you have to combine it with the size of the sensor itself. IMX220 is actually quite big, it's bigger than IMX240 therefore it can catch more light.
- nick
- ntE
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2015If it retains this type of processing, an F2.4, and no OIS Sony is reverting back to the Sony ... moreOIS isn't as great as many people think. Z3's digital image stabilization is great. Especially while shooting videos i's better than any OIS.
- Anonymous
- kr@
yadda yadda, 07 Apr 2015Hell yeah Sony for not following suit on the lack of external memory. FU all androids that dec... moreYes. It's great that they kept the SD slot. And many take it away without any good reason.
However it's obvious where your comment was directed specifically. And unlike others they have a reason.
The new storage that is dramatically faster and more efficient. It needed most or all of the available pins to reach the potential speed.
Now what's up for debate is exactly why they couldn't add the extra needed pins to have the best of both.
Was it time, space, know how, money, higher memory profit, or a mixed bag.
- Anonymous
- kr@
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2015you do realize the z3c is 5month old not 2y right...
and has easily twice the battery life ... moreDouble the battery life??? LOL
Not even by an imaginable stretch.
Minus that you had a great point and response to their claims. Including that you are approaching the same level.
- Anonymous
- kr@
AnonD-376951, 07 Apr 2015In terms of features the Sony Z4 has the potential to be the best all rounder in the marketpla... moreI doubt they have the potential to do that.
The Sensor is same in the S6 as note 4, but you word it to negate the improvement of a much better lens.
Yes there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Z3 and similar looking Z4 design. It's only logical and already looks great.
Though while the S6 front looks like the S5 and the device obviously looks like a Galaxy you again word it to elude from the overall change. Especially in back and frame.
Again not that it's dramatically different in all ways or that Sony has to radically change theirs. But the facts are that the S6 did change and refine a lot and the lens/software improvements are evident in the S6.
Out of all things I do have high hopes for the speakers of the Z4. The Z3 bested the M8 in overall quality while nearly matching volume in most cases and even surpassing in volume when it came to fine quality music. And that was with having the water protecting membranes. Hopefully the Z4 can again do this to the M9. Even better if it can while having 80+DB volume.
Honestly while these speakers are starting to get louder and sound nice, I'm not really impressed with any yet.
Especially last year. They barely sound any louder and are only marginally clearer than my 2009 Omnia HD speakers.
This is hitting 6 years and the speakers are only a notch or so better.
You can't just mention Gigabyte size and say something offers better value. The Note 4 is older. And The S6 is using UFS 2.0 storage. It's much more advanced and newer more expensive home brewed tech. Like many parts of the S6.
And that is 2.5K for QHD. Not 2K. 2K is a tiny hair over 1080p.
And sorry, but that's just a regurgitated bias claim that QHD is useless on this display size. So is the battery claim. The battery claim is not universal. Especially when speaking about Amoled.
That's the same thing people said about Dual cores, Quad cores, 1080p, 720p, 2Gb ram, 1GB ram, 256mb ram, yada so forth throughout history.
The difference is not outworldish, but is perceivable to many. As well as it's basically a requirement to their Gear VR. And before you try and side track with not everyone uses that....Who cares? It's still there making the best display and is perceivably sharper, and higher quality across the board.
And as far as battery life. Um. The S6's display is 20% more efficient than the S5's which was 1080p. Which was around 10% more efficient than the Note 4's. Which was up to 40% more efficient than the average 5 inch 1080p LCD. It's more efficient than many 720p LCDs. Heck comparing it to the 5s's 4 inch qHD non HD display was in most cases less overall power consuming.
And has a much more power efficient SoC. The S6 despite the smaller battery outlasts the S5 in almost all ways except talk time. Which is more a modem and/or software issue.
Now as far as LCd goes yes QHD uses some more battery. But as far as I understand Sony's Triluminos is already ahead of most LCDs in power consumption. Though I agree the move to QHD is not a necessity. Especially with S810 throttling issues.
And as far as talking about people reacted to the pre release review of the S6 and to this. You again are letting bias cloud your judgment and misleading.
With all the given and readily available info most people with common sense "aka not darkraver who will bash and then denial and side track" knew the S6 should have comparable battery life to the S5 if not better. And GSM initially didn't mention it as a pre production review and just left it as this is what it is. Until people expressed their strong opinion on their mistake.
This is a leaked picture sample. Fully knowing it's pre release. And as well as this has been the case with Sony for years. This looks like it has every other time. A much further below than expected result that bares close resemblance to if not the same as final product.
Can it change? Could we be surprised? Could this not even be the Z4? Obviously. But we are used to what Sony has been doing for years.
Two things people are forgetting though is that with burst shots and more manual controls you can actually start to get more of the actual sensor quality out of the Z devices.
I don't know why their auto tuning is so...meh. But the sensor is great and the potential is there.
If the Z4 had OIS, improved auto mode processing, improved speakers, F2.0, 3,400mah battery, and an improved display that didn't loose a decent bit of brightness by going into accurate colors it could come out a top contender. The S810 would cause some issues, but even when throttling it still is among the more powerful. With a large 3,200 or more preferably 3,400mah battery and finding a sweet spot in clock speed/throttle it could be handled well. And come out with still having one of the best batteries.
- Anonymous
- kr@
darkraver, 07 Apr 2015Annnd, after studying and comparing the quality of compressed shots on that site between s5, s... moreOf course you will deny all the facts to say such random things. Like you do in every single other page.
Just random claiming of Sony ahead, samsung behind, and that you are just a peaceful peacemaker.
- Anonymous
- kr@
darkraver, 07 Apr 2015Galaxy S5 Camera sample from the same:
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=... morePretending this was even relevant...That's an entirely different scene with a LOT more to capture. Different scene, area, time, whether, yada all different variables.
And what does an S5 sample from a year ago have to do with how well an upcoming Z4 sample is supposed to show a super enhanced powerful sensor?
- Anonymous
- kr@
M3BA , 07 Apr 2015Sony Xperia Z4 is camera model imx 230 (21mp, 1/2.4). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor If it retains this type of processing, an F2.4, and no OIS Sony is reverting back to the Sony before the Z2 that was well behind the curve again. I had such high hopes.
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