The LG G4 said to feature a slightly curved screen Comments
- AnonD-345273
- 3bm
LG need to do and "LG G4 mini" with this specs:
1.Display.- 4.7"inches FHD - IPS Quantum - CGG 4 - 470~ppi
2.Memory.- DDR4
3.Chipset.- Snapdragon 625
4.Battery.- 2400mAh
- Iskander
- iE7
Anonymous, 23 Apr 2015"...But yes, S810 is too powerful for such small devices to use its full potential ...&qu... moreIt's more that Qualcomm made a one-size-fits-all chip with SD810, calling it a 'smartphone and tablet chip'. Fact is that even if you make the phone really big and thick, it still won't have enough space for normal cooling solutions fit for this type of device.
CPU cores already had throttling going in earlier chips, if all put to full load (guy on Semiaccurate forum did a test with a nexus 5 and folding and figured that out), but with the GPU's being made stronger, something that makes sense for high res tablets, you inevitably end up with those chips throttling in small devices like phones, unless you dial down the clocks straight away. Doing the latter however will make your device look bad in benchmarks, which seemingly are the be all end all for deciding what phone to get.
To give an example, the one phone praised into heaven, winning all benchmarks, has an interesting long term performance result:
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&D1=LG+G3+%28Adreno+420%2C+F460%29&os1=Android&api1=gl&D2=Samsung+Galaxy+S6+%28SM-G920x%2C+SC-05G%29&cols=2
It's worse than the performance of Adreno 420 on the same resolution. Adreno 420 again performs worse than Adreno 430 (and as it seems Adreno 418). So if playing games or doing other GPU heavy stuff for prolonged time is your aim on a new phone, the Galaxy S6 is a rather poor choice, contrary to what benchmarks would like one to belief. Not to mention that Samsung is known for rigging benchmark results with detection software on their devices.
- Iskander
- iE7
stark2991, 23 Apr 2015m.gsmarena.com/lg_g4_hits_gfx_bench_with_snapdragon_808_chipset-news-11726.php
Qualcomm say... moreI had not seen that article, but in the GFXbench site, those results do not exist anymore, while a new result for a G4 device is added (same performance anyways).
Adreno 420 already throttled quite a bit as well, when in phones, which can be seen when you compare a SD805 phone with an SD805 equiped 8"+ tablet. Ofcourse build quality matters, but a phone will always be too small to enable enough cooling for a chip like SD810.
In any case, GFXbench has results for an LG G3 with SD805 (Adreno 420), which scores worse than the leaked LG G4 with SD808 (Adreno 418). Sadly, still no results for long term performance, which will tell the whole story about actual performance, as it shows what performance can be delivered after the initial 1 minute.
- adeeb
- u7G
lg dont u worry whether others but it or not i will try to buy one.
and i am sure this phone will out sell its predecessors.
- Anonymous
- mTn
ravan, 22 Apr 2015ugly as hell. why lg is soo much outdated??? i mean who the ffff is the designer? if i want a ... moreYou put the phone perfect in your back-pocket but also use it in the front... to protect the jewels when sporting :-)
Gorilla Glass jock protector LG G4 :)
- Anonymous
- mTn
stark2991, 23 Apr 2015m.gsmarena.com/lg_g4_hits_gfx_bench_with_snapdragon_808_chipset-news-11726.php
Qualcomm say... more"...But yes, S810 is too powerful for such small devices to use its full potential ..."
...Hence they should make the devices a bit thicker to accommodate better cooling. What's the use of a powerful cpu/gpu combo if it's crippled into a mid-range performer?
Who the hell runs these companies? Monkeys?
- Anonymous
- mTn
AnonD-237381, 23 Apr 2015You guys complain when the phone is hair thin without removable battery, low mAh, and don't ha... moreNo those are other guys :)
- korn
- T0v
Anonymous, 23 Apr 2015don't have the wow factor YoU Right
- Anonymous
- EYH
don't have the wow factor
- AnonD-237381
- PjS
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2015Sorry but i never had any good experience with micro sd cards in android, "SD card remove... moreI've had that problem too, with a low-end Galaxy Ace, a Galaxy SII, now I am having the same "SD Removed Unexpectedly" with a Xperia T2 Ultra, it's a Sandisk 32GB Class 10.
Before the Xperia I had a Lumia 720, used that same SD Card for 1 year, all my apps installed on it (WP8.1), never had problems.
- AnonD-237381
- PjS
ravan, 22 Apr 2015ugly as hell. why lg is soo much outdated??? i mean who the ffff is the designer? if i want a ... moreZipped? That is sewing
- AnonD-237381
- PjS
You guys complain when the phone is hair thin without removable battery, low mAh, and don't have SD card like S6. And when the phone is more thick but have those features you complain aswell
You guys are always complaining.
- AnonD-379427
- bJ8
Not digging the design. And the thickness, why is 2015 phone still so thick? Id rather pick up a slim phone anytime than a thick phone even without sd card and removable battery. Its 2015 already LG. Plus even the chinese phone with similar spec could make a slimmer phone. Smh
- AnonD-190634
- HIk
I noticed the curve! Thought of exact same thing!
- Kris Chan
- vpc
LG seems to have a winner on these 4th iteration of their G series..Hopefully positive expectations will equate to outstanding sales..
- stark2991
- mik
Iskander, 22 Apr 2015I'm quite curious, do you know the actual performance of Adreno 418? Or is it just that 'it ha... morem.gsmarena.com/lg_g4_hits_gfx_bench_with_snapdragon_808_chipset-news-11726.php
Qualcomm says it should be 20-30% faster than Adreno 330. Adreno 430 is almost twice as fast as 330, based on benchmark scores. Check M9 vs M8 scores to see yourself. So, G4 will not be noticeable faster than G3 and, thanks to its idiotic QHD screen, not even much faster than G2.
But LG phones were never good for gaming due to throttling.
Snapdragon 810 in M9 in fact works similar to 808 because it uses 2 A57 cores most of the time and when it gets hot, it shuts them down entirely going with all work to small A53 cores. GPU throttles quite serious as well. In real life it can be hard to feel the difference between S810 and S808.
Remember that throttling depends on construction of the phone and thermal limits, not only GPU itself is problem. But yes, S810 is too powerful for such small devices to use its full potential
- Anonymous
- tyq
Best of this year. :)
- Slayer
- nIA
AnonD-244086, 22 Apr 2015hey,the weirdest thing in the world:to see a curved Sony Xperia Phone like g flex 2,that will ... moreRemember Sony's Arc series..? Sony has been there and done that.......!
- Koreans
- vxr
AnonD-244086, 22 Apr 2015man youre blind arc series just body is curved but the screen no!yes the body is curved and that's exactly im talking about.
i did not say the screen is curved.
by the way a bit curved phone is really beautiful to me g4 is beautiful to me
- Iskander
- iE7
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2015Sorry but i never had any good experience with micro sd cards in android, "SD card remove... moreI'm quite curious, do you know the actual performance of Adreno 418? Or is it just that 'it has a smaller number thus it must be utter crap' kind of reasoning?
Fact is that the Adreno 430 starts throttling like a maniac (just like that lovely GPU of Samsungs Exynos btw, which is even worse) when on heavy load in phones, that it actually hardly performs any better than the Adreno 330. It may well be that Adreno 418 manages to remain cool better in these small bodies of the phones and actually, as result, have a better performance in general.
Calling it Adreno 418 anyways would make you think it will perform ever so slightly worse than Adreno 420, which on paper is significantly better than Adreno 330, but as well throttles so much that in reality, after short time, it performs hardly any better than Adreno 330. These GPU's in these new SoCs just aren't made to work on full load for prolonged time in phones. In tablets, they can be great, but your Adreno 430 likely won't be a better phone-solution for prolonged load than Adreno 418.
Generally, Snapdragon 808 makes for a much more sensible phone-SoC than Snapdragon 810, which really needs the tablet size device to have enough coolingspace. The few times you actually might have use of a 3rd high performing core in phone-related tasks, most likely can be counted on 1 hand over the 2 year period most contracts last.
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