[deleted post]huh??? u called iphone a gayphone??? hahaha groudless..anyway it much much better n stylish than granpa's phone Nokia hahhaa
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2009Read the article, Nokia is not suing apple for making a GSM/UMTS phone, they are suing Apple f... moreNokia is sueing Apple because they alledge Apple is using patented technology, whether they are or not is to be decided by a court, not a bunch of fanboys on a forum.
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2009You clame that multitasking sucks batteries, cause several applications are running in the bac... moreBlah, blah, blah...
September quarter 7.4 million iPhones vs 4.4 million N-series.
Consumers vote with their wallets, that's what counts, not meaningless specs sheets of useless features.
wow. company sponsored SPAM... Amazing. I like none of both companies USA products have isssues. Only locked products from one with a fully censored SW selection. None of the current quality products from the other (6700, 6303, 6700, E52 , E55, 3720).
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2009then how about flip phone design? Wasn't Moto the first to design a flip phone and the almigh... moreRead the article, Nokia is not suing apple for making a GSM/UMTS phone, they are suing Apple for using patented technology!!
Has nothing to do with design of phones, or beeing the first to introduce a certain technology on the market.
If motorola could have patented flip phones, but that seems unrealisticly, they could only patented a certain technology for making flip phones, that technology would have been easy to work around.
But when it comes to technologies included in the standard for GSM/UMTS communications, you cant simply make a workaround, you would have to either change the standard (wich is not set by Nokia, but several of companies), or make use of another technology (but then apple either by they own or, together with another company build US coverage and now worldwide covarege with that technology).
Im not claming that Nokia or any other company is the Almighty. Im not saying nokia was first to implement a certain design, or a certain feature. They, togheter with some other companies are simply the ones designing the standard and the standard technologies for GSM/UMTS.
Motorola made the first mobile phone, but impelementing a lot of technologies invented by other companies.
But according to you, any other company making a mobile phone is a copycat, and motorola could suit them. But the first mobile phone is not a product made by motorola, its made by a project, with other companies. Other companies where there to set the standards.
And if motorola would have patented the design of a mobile in such a way no other company could make mobiles. that woul not be very productive, since then mobiles would never been an succsess, and thus, just another bad investment. (like their sattelie phone technology).
Iphone-lovers out there, pelase stop with ur pathetic remarks.
the phone you love so much wont turn in to anything less of a phone because of this lawsuit.
Nokia owns some patents, that Apple didnt pay for. Either because theyve found ways around that (but as analysts say, not very likely), or because they didnt want to (cause not knowing of the patents are not very likely since nokia has contacted apple about that for the last 2 years).
Its up to court to prove that apple either broke the law, or that they found away around that technology.
However, if Nokia suspect that Apple broke their law, ofcourse they should file a charge against Apple.
And lets face it, if you love your iPhones that much, I assure you, it wont become less of a phone if Apple has to pay Nokia for licensing their technology. Sure Either Apples margins on phones will decrease or Apple will make next generation iPhone a few bucks more expensive. But will it be less of a phone because of that?
And does profits really count in the mobile industry?
No, the most important factor is the market shares.
Will Nokia gain marketshares?
will Nokia automaticly have a new phone on the market, a model wich by its own compete with apples marketshares?
Will apple automaticly loose market shares?
You have nothing to complain about.
Nokia has not forbidden Apple from making mobile phones that makes use of the GSM/UMTS technologies patented by Nokia, and thus not being able to communicate thru GSM/UMTS.
Be glad that they didnt do that... that could have stopped Apple from reaching any success at all with iPhones. If nokia would have wanted to do that, they would as soon as the 1st gen iPhone was released.
Anonymous, 23 Oct 2009The iPhone isn't a camera phone it's a smartphone, like the E71 (3.2 megapixel), E75 3.2, E63 ... moreThere are lots of mobiles out there being smartphones, that feature better cameras than iPhone 3GS.
Youre the one saying there is no need.
Besides iphone is not only marketed as a smarthpone, but a multimedia phone.
And most buyers of the iPhone are not business users... and had that been, Apple could probably have included some office suite in the package. Comparing to Nokia E series, HTCs business models, and black berry, is not very relavant, cause non of theese claims to be multimedia phones, but buisiness phones.
If apple was a buisiness phone, the app-store would not have reached success, cause buisiness users dont buy more applications than needed, and many of them cant buy at all, because of regulations of usage of their contracts.
Im not a nokia fanboy, that is just your word.
VGA is not enough for videorecoring today, cause the resolution does not perform well on a normal computer screen... on youtube people are expected to public HD videoclips. So surely users out there want something better. And there are phones out there with D1, WVGA, 720p recording. I never said that Nokia meet all demands, and not even the fanboys say that... that is what you say they do.
Today all manufactors should hade their aim at 720p recording, and what do you know, even apple might be working on that.
You are the one saying that there is no need for apple tu upgrade the camera specifications, cause the camera does all that you'll ever need in a phone. And that ther companies are out of their minds for releasing phones with better cameras.
Ive heard many apple users complaining about the camera. Some cause it does not meet the expected standard in a multimedia smartphone today. Or some, cause they've had better cameras in phones they've had before. Users who had better cameras in their phones eralier often take less pictures with their iPhone, than they used to, both because of the quality let-down and because of the fact that they cant take pictures at all, in the dark.
Today cameramodules in mobiles are used by a huge margin more than digital cameras of any other sort. Expecting some quality is very sane. and sure the 3gs did improve the quality a whole lot, but its still behind many of its competitors. And the lack of camera light of any sort or shutter-key has surely made iPhone a less appridiated choice of camera compared to competitors.
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2009does Motorola have a patent for making 3G touchscreen mobiles?
No, they dont.
Does nokia h... morethen how about flip phone design? Wasn't Moto the first to design a flip phone and the almighty brand just being the copycat?
I just wanted to point out the fact while the almighty brand is suing Apple, being nothing but a successful company with basically one product,
The almighty brand company itself has been copying others design
[deleted post]You clame that multitasking sucks batteries, cause several applications are running in the background. This is only true when you have several of programs running passively or actively in the background. The ability to multitask, use only marginaly more battery, than leaving it out.
And during all those situations, when multitasking is just so much easier, than closing or opening applications (this is when you are actively using the phone, switching betweene applicaions, you dont leave them running all the time)... or for those situation, where you need an application, wich is not made by apple, to keep on running, if there is an incoming call, or whatever. In these scenarios, apple have no solution.
Implementing the possibility to multitask, would only use marginaly more battery... but it would come with a lot of advantages.
If apple dont want their users to forget applications running in the background, they could simply have a popup on the strartscreen, and an indicator in stanby, reminding the users, that there are applications running in the background.
So actually, you came with no sane excuse not to implement multitasking... and since apple put a more powerfull CPU in the 3GS, dont go around being to sure its an inferrior technology that apple will never introduce... I think they very well might.
many people does actually not know of features issing on the iphone... there are several of users out there complaining... itregarding bluetooth file transfer (not being able to send pictures/sounds/music to friends), not being able to record video at all (the 3GS met that demand, but users buying iPhone before the 3Gs was complaining), there were buyers that wa desperately looking for the MMS feature, back in the days, when you told them there was none, they could not believe their ears. there are users out there complaining about the keyboard being to small for bigger fingers, and users complaining about how hard it is to type, if you have long nails. there are users out there, supprised that not all webpages work like on the computer, cause of the way Apple has marketed the phone (few other phones does that either, but they werent market that hard for beeing a replacement for surfing on your desktop). So there is a lot of critisism out there, among users. Not by iphone lovers, and constantly denied by iphone lovers... however, the critisism is out there, and its there, because either of apples marketing or features considered standard in the industry were missing (and some still are).
SMS delivery reports let you know that the other person has recieved that message. Without that notification, you cant really expect an reply... the other person might not have battery left, of might not have the phone turned on, and the sender still think that someone has recieved it. So its a very usefull funktion.
Right now you think apple will keep on upgrading your phone forever, and that you will be able to by all applications in the app-store, and that the programs youve downloaded will be compatible if you ever get a new ihpone.
That holds true, till the they when apple upgrades the resolution on the screen. start making phones at different sizes. start using another cpu architecture, however, at the moment the upcoming multicore CPU A5 will have backward compability... but that might not hold true for all future CPUs...
And some day apple will have to follow the market an adding different product to their portfolio, othervise they will start loosing market shares.
And no, Apple is not at a stable marketshare, that would mean, that they have not advanced since the iPhone was introduced.
Sure, apple want world domination, and sure they will struggle to get as much of the market shares as they possibly could.
and what the f** has full touch smartphones to do with it? Nokia has several of smarthpones out there, without touchscreens... they are still smarphones. All nokias running S60 (touch or no touch) are smartphones. In the future you will have to add maemo to that list. So nokia has a lot of smartphones out there, and several released around the time of the 3GS. N96 and N95 barely make the statistic anymore, but there are N86, 6720 classic, 6710 navigator, E55, E75, 5630 xpress music, and lots more.
It's ridiculuos to say that because apple gave one thing for free, that would make them a sinterclass.. LOL.
It's just contradict the basic logical assumption. You can't use one minor fact to conclude the big picture.
And as for Nokia showing his true colour, or that they said they are doing some 'openess'. Well.. I've never heard such thing. And again, based on that one fact (if it's true), you make conclusion again. Lol.
Anyway, I'm using neither iphone nor nokia. I am an android user, but on all these things I sided with Nokia, as anyone who understand the meaning of royalty and heavy investment R&D would..
Anonymous, 23 Oct 2009"A920 came before A925...
3G, back in those days, were just an expensive technology, not used... moredoes Motorola have a patent for making 3G touchscreen mobiles?
No, they dont.
Does nokia have patens regarding GSM/UMTS technologies, yes they do!
Does motorola have patents for charging via USB?
I hardly think a mobile phone was the first ever product to implemente such a freature. keep in mind, beeing the first mobile manufactor to include such a feature, is not enough, they've had to be first all categories.
And, no, they have no such patents.
Im not talking about any almighty companies, those are your words, not mine.
[deleted post]I'm a fan of both!! Cause their phone are actually cool! Not like Nokia bricks!!
If nokia lose this lawsuit
That means multiptuch on n920 and n98 is not far away
Apple pay pay pay.....
Nokia colliect money:)))))
speed up the symbian^4 and maemo6 and QT
and multiptouch implement
nokia all the way
[deleted post]Nokia closed platforms pay us or we sue.
Apple here's WebKit use it however you want, here's Grand Central use it however you want.
It's good to see Nokia showing their true colours after scamming people with all their talk about how open they are, they just did that to get people to work for them for free.
MMS on the N900? The "community" will do it, portrait mode, "the community" I thought slavery was illegal.
z, 24 Oct 2009you stole something, you pay for it.
You are innocent until proven guilty.
So tell us specifically what Apple allegedly stole?
Unless you are an expert in patent law, mobile phone technology and computer and phone software your opinion is worthless.