Investment bank says Samsung's business is imploding Comments
- Schillinator
- 7sw
who stands to gain from misinformation/ disinformation ?
a propaganda war between rival phone manufacturers.
- Anonymous
- Ibx
Investment banks don't know jack. On average their market predictions do worse than random guessing (numerous studies have shown this).
But they do need to say things that sound authoritative, so that they can justify their huge fees, to rich clients, who like to think they're getting some sort of special inside information, even though they'd be better off just investing in passive index funds (like an S&P 500 fund) like every other schmoe scrimping for retirement.
But then the rich people wouldn't feel special. One of the (many) dirty secrets of wall street is that the people who get taken advantage of the most are rich people. They can afford it, so they don't notice.
- AnonD-401897
- Ia7
Part of the problem, is the built-in battery. For iPhone users, its fine, but Samsung Galaxy users, especially power user and business users and travelers, have grown accustomed to the huge advantages of having a replaceable battery. This is what made users like me own device after device that was Samsung, and not Sony or HTC. Now, for my next phone, it may be another Note 4, and no upgrade to anything that hasn't got a replaceable battery. The Galaxy S6 is not attractive to the business community. Its a phone for people that want cute phones.
- Anonymous
- 5Mb
Not only do previous owners not see any new values worth upgrading, but they actually lose by downgrading to the new generation S6
- thefrarfulsilence
- p6Y
The cost of the handset itself is simply ridiculous and the sole focus on hardware over software is a bit of a miscalculation on Samsung's part.
There are always a few sheep out there who will automatically buy a handset regardless of price/spec, but my view is that Android users, by the nature of the OS itself, are more likely to shop around due to the greater number of available handsets and OS iterations.
Apple may have enough zombies out there to buy their overpriced gear without question but Samsung do not.
I'm happy with my S5 and I refuse to buy the S6 for the same reason that I refused to upgrade from my iphone 4s to the iphone 5.
The competitivenes of the market (considering Apple's strong position), still relies largely on Samsung's efforts so they need to sort themselves out as we will all suffer if they stagnate and start losing market share.
- AnonD-401861
- uuX
I'm a S3 user, and i agree with the few guys here,
S6 being a flagship isn't worth spending a fortune at the moment.
The biggest problem for me is still, waiting for a perfect galaxy phone is the Water proofing and Battery life.
I have a friend who owns a Xperia Z2, and i'm often jealous of how least he's bothered about charging his phone.
I guess i'll wait for the next galaxy to pass the 85hrs Battery Life of that of the Xperia Z2(According to GSMArena,
Bring back the Water proofing and a decent 3000Mah+ Battery and the Galaxy Flagship will be worth it.
Worse if the Sony comes out with a Xperia with Fingerprint scanner, then i'd unfortunately have to switch loyalty. :"(
- AnonD-365011
- K8L
AnonD-92769, 01 Jun 2015In fact it's about market saturation! TW software suits is by far most evolved on top Android ... moreI like the words you used, Market Saturation~^^
Some people still using S3 for three years, and they feel no need to upgrade--not because they have no money, because there is no need to!
So instead of coming up with monstrous specs, it is better to observe what is coming in future....^___^
- AnonD-92769
- 0Uj
In fact it's about market saturation! TW software suits is by far most evolved on top Android brand software among all android device manufacturer so I think the cause of Samsung decline sales it's not Samsung itself but Android slow evolution and rapid market saturation! Personally I'm owner of note3 bought 1 year ago and I don't need next iteration note4 because note3 is an excellent smartdevice which satisfy all my needs! There's no reason or need to change my smartphone year over year! This will happen with all android manufacturer and there's a lots.
- joe sHmoe
- UD{
AnonD-364786, 01 Jun 2015Have you checked the link given by me ?? Either you give some proof or keep quiet !!! http... moreYou sure are one sided.Did I ever brought apple in our conversation? did i just say about the scale of the markets?You should do more research and apply math to instead of just depending on something.Wait ill give you links later as soon as i get out.
- AnonD-365011
- K8L
AnonD-391800, 01 Jun 2015Well, good pick of words, decent... Quality is not their imperative, only high tech assembled... moreI do agreewith you that Samsung spent quite a lot in mass-advertising its products, but the quality is there. I do not despise Huawei phones, but when comparing it with Samsunh mid-range phones by testing them through dropping to the ground, Huawei does break easily. Also, Samsung is a strict company, the QC should not be too bad.
- casualsuede
- iZX
AnonD-391800, 01 Jun 2015Its quite simple
It is imploding by a simple fact that if s6 sales are on a s5 level or worse... moreIt is imploding, not because the device isn't as good as the GS5, but because Apple is eating many OEM's lunches with new larger screen format devices.
The iPhone 6 and 6 plus were devices that Samsung should have anticipated (and anticipated its arrival for a long time), but they were either caught off guard, or it was a tsunami that was so big, they could do nothing to protect against it.
- AnonD-391800
- B}Q
AnonD-364786, 01 Jun 2015Samsung produces decent phones.
But when it asks for a premium price , it needs to justify i... moreWell, good pick of words, decent...
Quality is not their imperative, only high tech assembled to be sold at max profit through heavily financed marketing, and oversaturating the market with products that pass obviously very badly handeled quality control, not to mention really bad software quality control...one can accept one or two bugs, but a dozen of them...seems they spend more on marketing than quality assurance...
- AnonD-364786
- XNa
AnonD-391800, 01 Jun 2015Its quite simple
It is imploding by a simple fact that if s6 sales are on a s5 level or worse... moreSamsung produces decent phones.
But when it asks for a premium price , it needs to justify it.
Premium phones need regular software updates ( not completely its fault ) ,
consistency in user experience and
after sales support.
Sammy is poor in all the above.
- moto g man
- 9LA
sorry guys but the device is ugly...sammy tring to copy apple success..no no no too bad...have to lear by a lot....
- AnonD-391800
- B}Q
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2015http://fudzilla.com/news/wearables/37889-apple-s-iwatch-fails-key-functionThank you very much, not ios fan either, its downright basic and most uninnovative OS out there, a ripoff...
- AnonD-391800
- B}Q
Its quite simple
It is imploding by a simple fact that if s6 sales are on a s5 level or worse, and they indeed are,
The amount of profit from sales does not equate the amount invested in marketing and development....
Mobile division goes into red...
Samsung will cut development and user support down drastically, mark my words....That company doesnt care about user experience, only selling and profit
- AnonD-364786
- XNa
joe sHmoe, 01 Jun 2015As i said lets put it in actuall numbers.
-China-1.7B population rougly 870Mil +celphon users... moreHave you checked the link given by me ??
Either you give some proof or keep quiet !!!
http://www.statista.com/statistics/220977/global-smartphone-market-share-forecast-by-country/
In another source,
http://www.wired.com/2015/04/iphone-now-crazy-popular-china/
Apple's revenue in china region is 16.8 billion USD and their revenue from whole europe is 12.2 bllionn USD.
This clearly shows that china is a very important market , which samsung lost.
Japan market was lost by samsung in 2014 itself.
- joe sHmoe
- UD{
AnonD-364786, 01 Jun 2015I loled when you posted singapore mkt is bigger than Japan !!! What are you smoking then ?I just gave you an idea of the numbers involded.But that should give your brain something to think about.And hit me again go ahead.
- joe sHmoe
- UD{
AnonD-364786, 01 Jun 2015I loled when you posted singapore mkt is bigger than Japan !!! What are you smoking then ?10% is still the largest market share.But still its very far from your 30%.
- joe sHmoe
- UD{
AnonD-355209, 01 Jun 2015Oppenheimer is a lead director for Apple.inc. so what would u expect from a bank that owns maj... moreIF you squize all the other counties in my list the world excluding china as you stated has 30% of the whole smartphone market is wrong.
-China would have about 10& or less of the whole market if even we just put one smartphone per person.
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