Anonymous, 07 Dec 2009SE x10 vs. HTC bravo
ok compare what we know about them so far:
- screen: 4" TFT vs 3.7"... morewe still howvere do not know if android 2.0 will bring more colors to the X10 experience. Cause what i've heard before the display is capable of displaying more than 65k.
Sure Amoled should be better... and 3.7 if housed in a more compact body are both pros for HTC.
About the cameras we cant pass any judgemend at this stage.
SE often outperforms HTC. And with X10 and its 8mpix module, stills should be quite a lot better than HTCs 5 mpix. But we dont know SE might use a less advanced 8mpix module then they do in their other 8mpix phones.
As for videorecording... sure 720p is a lot better than wvga, but at this point we do not know anything about the quality of the HTCs videos. They might turn out really bad, and the 720p just some cool specs to try and sell a phone, that actually would have been better of with a high bandwith wvga video.
about the battery, either one of them might be the worse perfomer... SE used to be good in the battery department, ut has lost some grounds there. HTC has made a couple of phones with good battery performance. And in this case, smaller display, with amoled technology might not but them behind at all.
about the HSDPA connection, we still dont know anything about the experience... the rendering is more important than the download speed.
about the buttons, the 4th button on the HTC isnt that just the searchbutton... So if you dont use that often, 3 is not really worse. But the trackball if that is a trackball is a slightadvantage in some cases... a trackpad would perhaps been better, since you can always use the touchscreen when you want some more precision.
About multi-touch... its not really the best way to go, since it require two hands. Ive yet to see multitouch used in a more pratical way than single touch can ever do, in an serious application... in some games you need it, but I could manage without those.
At this moment, all we can say is that the Bravo is more compact.
was this it?
I sure hope they have some well kept secrets as well, cause this lineup didnt really excite me. A lot of underpowered devices.
Sure HTC will re-use old platforms to keep prices down, and reach a wider audience... but they still have to have some real cool stuff up the latter for us willing to pay for it.
Bravo being the onlye one here...
HD-recording is a great update however, we just have to hope it performs well. Competing with Samsung and SE is not all that easy when it comes to camera performance, and HTC has not been up to the task before... Lets hope they are, this time.
NvS, 08 Dec 2009What i'm saying is they will imitate what iPhone gave first :
capacitve screen,multitouch i... more1st Capacative phone on the market, and introduced was the LG Prada, not iPhone.
Multitouch is not really a good thing in a mobile, since it require two hand operation. But sure, they were 1st.
App-store... yes, nokia didnt call their portal for buying applickations direktly in the mobile for app-store... and it sure didnt have as many programs.
Same goes for Sony Ericsson.
But Apple was not the first one to offer a solution for buyig applications in a mobile.
The OS is a matter of personal taste, some want settings, customisation, and powerfull applications. Some prefer one less click to do certain things. And comparing with non touchscreen UIs, iPhone OS sure isnt always the best choice for handling.
But sure its an good OS. Just not a revolution.
No, Apple has not surpassed Samsung in touchscreen devices, Samsung sells quite a lot of them.
I dont know about the Nokia sales figures, but they are probably behind Apple.
HTC is behind apple.
So some truth to the statement, however, all sold phones are sold phones, not all people want a touchscreen. SO in terms of sales, they are way way behind Samsung and Nokia. Even quite a bit behind LG, and even behind SE.
Apple fanboys keep telling us that the next iPhone will revolutionise the world... fist update was the 3G, it didnt bring anything to the table but some connectivity. Then it was the 3Gs, aomewhat better camera, but still behind K800 in picture quality, which by then was of the market for a few years, and well surpassed by almost any other mamufactor out there, and iPhone still was lacking any kind of cameralight.
So why would this time be any different. Looking at apple's trackrecord, we cant expect much at all from the next generation of iPhone.
And where is the multitasking?
for me and many others out there, its not a real smartphone without multitasking... and a decent file manager.... blutooth connectivity... The copy/paste issue, they've delt with, thats one step in the right direction.
And the app-store, honnestly, with apple refusing a lot of pretty practial apps, just because they feel like it, its not such a great deal anyway.
Please, if all you want to do is praise an actually quite mediocre phone, with an decent UI, go to an iPhone forum, they'll be happy to have you.
This is an HTC article, no iPhone entioned in the article, and we dont want to hear you nagging about a phone most of us reading and commeting here has already decided does not live up to our demands.
Wooooooooow! HTC is the best! i like the htc bravo this is what i want for the android devices. it has everything that i want! for sure i buy this phone this coming April.
It's about time that HTC should really bump the camera of their devices
Etolix, 08 Dec 2009HTC is slowly overtaking market. Great devices are coming. I just hope that HTC don't start pr... moreI really think that HTC don't have popularity as a brand it's deserve..
Not many people even know HTC brand, and their first reaction are, "Is this another chinese brands?" Lol..
I personally think HTC is the king of smartphone and this roadmap is showing even more why it is so..
I pray the HTC bravo will become the T-mobile G3. As for apple's innovation with the idont - why weren't they continuing topush the bar higher up, instead they just sit on their piles of cash. Fair enough other UI's are imitating to get on par withidont, but will apple ever surpass what they have already made. Iphone(hsdpa)3gs anyone??
David, 07 Dec 2009Oh, you mean Apple will add more than just a digital compass on the next "same" iPhone as the ... moreWhat i'm saying is they will imitate what iPhone gave first :
capacitve screen,multitouch input,entertaining UI,and App.store.
Apple just got into this business less than 3 years yet surpassed HTC Nokia Samsung in touchscreen device,as for its competitors made nothing all this time but ugly UI of winmo and symbian.
So when the next iPhone give users new things to experience with,those copycats will imitate again trying to catch up iPhone without creating anything new,that's why they become losers,and good luck for those losers.
Apple made a new definition in touchscreen by inventing something with its UI when those failed to give us :
The best interaction of human and smartphone
HTC is slowly overtaking market. Great devices are coming. I just hope that HTC don't start producing crap for low low low end. HD2 is ruling, and nothing will replace it soon.
Strange but true - HTC will release nothing better than my lovely HD2 ... HD2 seems to be yhe parfect choice :)
SE x10 vs. HTC bravo
ok compare what we know about them so far:
- screen: 4" TFT vs 3.7" AMOLED both at WVGA. HTC bravo has the better screen, SE just has the bigger 1. i think a 3.7" display is big enuf and this display is better cos not only is it amoled vs tft but also htc has more dpi/ppi so the quality is better.
- battery: 1500mAh on x10 vs 1400mAh. obviously 1500 is better but it seems like the ui SE r developing needs more power to run it than the htc sense ui so battery life might be close. how efficient the manufacturer can make their software and hardware work is also important. until there r tested figures, there is not that much we can compare in terms of standby, talk time, wifi...
- navigation: 3 buttons vs. 4, a trackball, and multitouch gestures. Bravo wins here
- ui/os: SEs timescape/mediascape ui vs. sense ui. this is personal choice so none of them can win. SE will eventually update the x10 to android 2 but there is no given date for that whereas htc will ship this with android 2. but since there is no definite date for either of these none can win.
- camera & playback: better stills vs better video? SE probably has the better cam for taking stills seeing as how htc usually disappoints with stills but 720p is much better than wvga. this is a personal choice. htc however does hv divx and dolby which SE lacks
- memory: SE has 1gb internal with an 8gb card but bravo is said to come with a 16gb memory card and internal memory is less (at 512mb) but overall htc wins for out-of-the-box memory.
- connectivity speed: upload is a tie with both at 2mbps but download SE wins. both hv same bluetooth specs.
- size: htc is more pocketable
that is rly all that can be compared at the moment. so now can SE fanboys stop saying x10 is better cos its not. u might personally find its better but dont mistake ur opinion for the reality. they r both good, each with their own advantages.
I must say, watchig from the form, the three WinMo phones look mutch better as the 5 Androids. 65mm wide phone... No Thanks. Buzz looks good, but Photon kills...
whats new??? same old thing nothing different,,htc are getting like s/e nokia that just bring out same old thing in different shell..
The width of the "HTC Salsa" android-phone is 65 mm - makes it that much harder to find suitable generic mobile-cases for it. And 8.5 mm thick - yes, a puny 1100 mAh battery is much more important to squeeze in than a 1400 mAh one if the thickness was allowed to be at least 11 mm (like in the HTC Trophy model). Other then that it seemes to be a nice phone.
Why the hell have htc never released their flagship phone that compatible with 850/1900 3G!!?? Seriously, I really want to use their phone but I don't want to change to t-mobile!!!
X10 group, 07 Dec 2009dont tell me that you prefer HD video (IN MOBILE PHONE!) more than 8mp camera with best qualit... moreBut the comparison for anyone who would buy one of these 2 would be between:
4.0" TFT vs. 3.7" AMOLED
8MP with WVGA vs. 5.0MP with HD.
UX UI vs. Sense UI.
These are the main differences which would make anyone's mind up.
X10 group, 07 Dec 2009dont tell me that you prefer HD video (IN MOBILE PHONE!) more than 8mp camera with best qualit... moreSome people prefer HD recording, some don't. But when comparing this counts for Bravo, you prefer or not remains a preference, not a standard.
For the screen, yes the size matters, but not when the difference is too small 0.3" is not the difference to give up an AMOLED and 16M colours screen for.