i have a moto g3 .can i update to the android marshmellow beta vers. or should i go with the original version?
regs, 10 Aug 2015They should have been go with underclocked for power saving reasons Adreno 405 for S412, since... moreAgreed,
Any new SOC's announced by Qualcomm should from this point on feature Adreno 4** series GPU's, The 3** series should be retired, as they just don't cut the mustard in 2015
This is probably the weakest part of both these two new SOC's, if you look at the Wikipedia entry for the Adreno GPU's you will see the that 305/306 output is between 19.2-21.6 GLOPS, by contrast the 405 is rated at 59.4 (essentially putting it on par with the once flagship grade 320) this makes it twice as powerful.
I think Qualcomm would have been better served if they had followed the following SOC/GPU parings in 2015:
Snapdragon 212 = Adreno 402/404??? (there are 302/304 GPU's)
Snapdragon 412 = Adreno 405
Snapdragon 615 = Adreno 418
Snapdragon 808 = Adreno 420
Snapdragon 810 = Adreno 430
I know there's more to measuring GPU performance than just GFLOP output, such as clockspeed, power consumption etc. But I do think the above structure would have made Qualcomm a more attractive vendor for OEM's looking to marked all grades of devices as being graphically competent and competitive in 2015.
Big Daddy, 10 Aug 2015Even my SD 400 Moto G has USB OTG.. What are you even talking about..Don't mind him. My SD410 have otg too. He is just a strange guy that don't understand chipsets.
Qualcomn should offer upgraded version for 615 since it overheats and is supplied in most mid range devices
MediaTek mid-range processors are way more powerful than Snapdragon 400,410 etc
They should have been go with underclocked for power saving reasons Adreno 405 for S412, since S620 will receive Adreno 510. 306 is way too slow even just for Chrome.
Anonymous, 10 Aug 2015Snapdragons 410 without USB OTG function is. a real let down, hopefully Snapdragons 412 has U... moreSnapdragon 410 supports USB OTG just fine (Moto G/E for instance will do it so will the older Moto G with Snapdragon 400). If it works or not is entirely dependent on the software stack (hence the phone manufacturer)...
AnonD-246216, 10 Aug 2015Yes, the 810 chip did find its way to mainstream flagship devices that don't even sell all tha... moreWell in comparison to the S6 and iPhone nothing sells that well. You could put an Exynos 7420, or some other SOC into a M9/G4/Z3+/Oneplus two etc and it wouldn't alter their sales figures to any appreciable degree
Ale, 10 Aug 2015Way too soon to draw that kind of conclusion! Besides these are 'budget' chipsets, and will... moreYes, the 810 chip did find its way to mainstream flagship devices that don't even sell all that well...
Angry Mobile Nerd, 10 Aug 2015Or maybe for Androidwear devices if you could think that far (obviously not).What count's the most for Android wear is energy efficiency and since the newer cortex a53 is better in this point than the old a7, no one will choose for the 212. If the 212 series would be a good choice for Android wear, we would have seen any 200 series watch, but there is none.
rohit, 10 Aug 2015*Filling the hole left behind* lol That hole should be left alone instead of filling them. The 212 is absolutely unnecessary.
Antymalware, 10 Aug 2015Android devices are all about cpu clock speeds.... nothing else.... so whats the problem?Oh so you trying to say there is no heating issue with the chipset!!..lol
Snapdragons 410 without USB OTG function is. a real let down, hopefully Snapdragons 412 has USB OTG..
Anonymous, 10 Aug 2015So here we are, watching the downfall of former titan..Way too soon to draw that kind of conclusion!
Besides these are 'budget' chipsets, and will be comparable to other manufacturers offerings.
I'd agree that Qualcomm are in a lull of sorts at the moment, Mainly due to the 810 fiasco. That said, even with the bad press this SOC has attained, it has still found its way into most mainstream flagship handsets this year.
The 400/410 combo are all but dominating the lower end of the market, and the 615 seems to be doing well in the midrange segment (though this is probably where you see the most variation in SOC's from different vendors).
Qualcomm's fate it seems will be decided once the 820 and it's next generation 'Kryo' (though I think recently that a different name has started doing the rounds) custom cores start to become available, if Qualcomm don't see the same kind of success with products featuring these new core's as they enjoyed with Scorpion and Krait, then perhaps it would be time to start talking about the fall of a titan.
Qualcomm gets more and more uninteresting with every release. Their processors have lost their quality because of the pressure that is being put on them to release new chipsets in short time. That is a wrong way of treating customers and I'm already more interested in what Intel has to offer. Their releases seem more promising.