I'm still waiting for the Z5 Ultra, are Sony going to release another Ultra or not ? my Z Ultra is still brilliant but i'm hoping by next year we will have a success or. This Premium Z5 should really have been the Z5 Ultra with a 6.4" screen providing a 684 ppi, let's hope this happens soon though.
Honest realist , 03 Sep 2015My Apple has iOS :) so keep your specs on your piece of android trash. (This is one of the nic... moreYeah good luck with your iOS don't forget to cry for someone to jailbreak it. It's good that after 5 years your crapple was able to copy/past and send SMS like normal phones do.
And btw, don't forget to ask crapple for permission if you want to use your device or connect it to your pc ? I'm glad I got rid of itunes one of the most annoying shitty app in history.
That 'overkill' 4K or any higher resolution should leave users able to notice the difference between a 1080p, 720p, or lower and a 4K. Just as users would hardly notice any difference between a 2K and a 4K, it also goes without saying that users would barely notice the difference between a 1080p and a 2K, too. But if one would run figures/numbers, of course, they will result in different values. Doi!
The funny thing is 4K aside:
Didn't Android fanboys say you need 4GB RAM for 64bit to work or useful? :P Why only 3GB in this phone?
It seems only Note 5 hit that mark.
Sony may have cut their road to some 'World's Firsts' awarding night. I can't blame them for excelling or innovating in display and camera department as they have years of experience and a business of their own (lenses and sensors). And for them deciding on an S810 and a 3GB RAM, they aren't of their own but are what is currently and readily available for mass production. I guess they might have heard Sony users who have been ranting how they've been using the same camera for years and have been lashed for halting major upgrades on that particular department other than, maybe, software tweaks. It's a good thing they have retired their old camera out to make room for a new one in as their previous camera, though still capable, has been showing its age. Maybe they've reached their peak in tweaking their image processing/software that they have to resort to a new camera for major enhancements and, perhaps, compatibility or optimization with the image processing/camera software. Even I wouldn't want Sony to miss their opportunity to write Z5 in 2015 for garnering something noble on their history books. If playing numerology were to take over, this might be the most suitable year for their Z line with the number 5, an easy-to-remember year in history. Maybe they couldn't wait much longer for an S820 and 4GB RAM pair that they just had to cram a phone with more pixels squeezed in and are just sheer excited they've managed to do so on a mainstream flagship before any phone maker could have, all to prove that it is possible and that it can be done as soon as now, not 2016 nor later. Digital video standard/format UHD (4K and 8K) is older than most realize on TV, that is, just not on mobile phones. Knowing Sony's propensity to push technology not only in displays or camera sensors and lenses but also in other standards/formats (if Blu-ray and the rest ring a bell), I'm not at all surprised if they be the first to manufacture a phone with 4K display when it's not at all impossible that Samsung, LG, or Sharp could have easily snatched the fame or pioneer award for having the first 4K display on phones. All of them, including Sony, already implemented 4K displays on TVs, it's just a matter of how they could further stuff the tech on smaller screens such as on smartphones. Don't fret though, as all three have already previously rumored or announced that they will be employing 4K displays on their phones in the future (one of which will be as early as 2016), just not as early as this year. Other companies will eventually get to taste their own 4K and Sony might eventually get a taste of their own S820 and 4GB+ RAM combo.
When asked about when will we get a smartphone with a 4K display, "Kurozumi and Sony's VP of Mobile Development Akihiro Hiraiwa both laugh. Hiraiwa says, "Some day! There was the idea that users wouldn't be able to discern any increases in resolution once it got to a certain level, but that's wrong. People can tell." Kurozumi adds, "We now need the right size for phones, the right processors capable of running 4K. We're looking for [these] solutions." Smartphones would also need enough battery power to run on such a high resolution for a respectable amount of time." Smith, M. (2014) Source: www.engadget.com/2014/03/21/sony-xperia-z2-4k/
Statements on the above article distinguishes Sony from others. A few weeks after that article was published, there were even conceptualized renders of the Z3 and the Z4 having 6 inches screen size and 4K resolution that surfaced online. But unlike Sony that didn't go into details on a set of date(s) for launching/releasing a phone (until the recent unveiling - launch is just around 2 months away) with 4K display and didn't come specifying which phone model they'll be producing it with, other known brands, such as Sharp, that officially specified a set time frame or date for releasing a 4K display phone might be totally stumped now that Sony recently and officially confirmed their upcoming 4K display flagship before others could. I always knew Sony would be implementing such display on phones some time in the future, just not this early, which I must say, as of the moment, is the only thing that surprised me. Which now leaves until the Z5's November launch date for other brands to mass produce and release/launch (and maybe skip official/press announcements or leaks/rumors) their own 4K display phone to surprise and excite us consumers even more.
Maybe Sony was quick to realize it's about time to bring their weekend car out for a race to the UHD's (UHD 4K, UHD+ 5K, FUHD 8K, and the future standard, QUHD 16K) and, in the meantime, garage their daily driven car that only aims to pick up the S820 (given more companies may eventually employ the S820 or later SoCs). This way, SoC manufacturers will eventually push improvements or enhancements for support and compatibility on higher display resolutions. Who knows, maybe successors to the S820, HX20, E7420/E7422, TK1/TX1, or the Intel ones, may arrive sooner than we think - wouldn't techies love that? I honestly impartially care whether LG with their G4 Pro or Xiaomi with their Mi 5 duo be recognized as the first flagships to run on S820, I care more if S810 could already properly or decently handle a 4K display. If it doesn't, Sony could always opt for an S820 or some capable SoC that pops up by the time they unveil the Z6
IA64, 03 Sep 2015To all the Samsung, Apple and crap fanboys, I'll sum it up for you once for all. - There i... moreMy Apple has iOS :) so keep your specs on your piece of android trash. (This is one of the nicer pieces of trash, but alas, still an android toting pieces of trash nonetheless)
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2015No OIS and 4K? Really? Better go OLED and stay 1080P/2K for much improved image quality.
It... moreDepend on OLED technology. Both LG and Samsung uses pentile with resolution of just 940x560 in two subpixels.
But JDI's RGBW OLED would be interesting
jrharbort, 03 Sep 2015Many of the apps/games are still limited to 1080p max when being rendered, and don't display a... moreThat's not true at all. Android has scalar raster interface. It doesn't have native resolution. Not talking about 3D games.
gadgeteer, 02 Sep 2015Game changer. Samsung , Apple are you watching ? This is how its done. Apple will probably ge... moreThe 4k screen is a useless resource hog that is not yet needed in the current state of the market. That is why Apple didn't implement it as yet. As for samsung they would have probably rushed it out too were they capable. Yes Sony is first. But my money is on it being a flop. You don't need to believe me. You will see it on this very same website given some time. ONE thing I do take my hat off for, is the design, beautiful by any standards! So in conclusion well done Sony hope it works out for them!
IA64, 03 Sep 2015To all the Samsung, Apple and crap fanboys, I'll sum it up for you once for all.
- There i... moreHaha. Go buy one now.
And do a real life test, else i will not be convinced! That 4K will be the phone's downfall!
Adrian F, 03 Sep 2015Adreno 430 can achive 420GFlops (double than the Exynos 7420!!!) it's mean that the Xperia Z5... moreAt 700 MHz? It won't work on that frequency. It will overheat and throttle pretty quickly. It hardly even work on 600 MHz. Only if CPU is drastically underclocked.
To all the Samsung, Apple and crap fanboys, I'll sum it up for you once for all.
- There is no overheat with SD810 v2.1 and Sony did not throttle down the CPU, they used some thermal gel acting as heatsink and what do you know about Sony, they have their own way
- 4K is not an overkill as Xreality engine is used to upscale here giving much higher details compared to 2K. Sony stated before that 2K is meaningless as it offers no advantage over 1080p unless it's 4K.
- The benchmark posted already show that the performance is outstanding and after 10mins of 4K recording the device only reached 50C. Samsung crap can't record past 5 mins... go figure
- Sony is known for its outstanding battery life and with 3450 mah you certainly get it.
Let's see what we have here....
- 4K Screen with Xreality engine
- 23Mpix ultra fast shutter with one of the most advanced sensors
-Support of SD card up to 200GB ( eat that )
- Waterproof / dust proof device
-Great design and superb built quality
- Playstation compatibility
- Octacore CPU + 3GB RAM DDR4 ( lag free as even with 4GB your shitty S6 lags )
- The name of Sony on the device
- Newer version of Adreno 430
- Support from Sony and OTA updates that target even mobiles older than 2 years
- Amazing set of accessories
What does your Apple or Samsung crap offer more ? Let me tell you. Absolutely nothing. So stop trolling and go cry for some better specs fanboys.
Sony doesn't need to cheat like that cheap samsung who overclocked the CPU once bench-marking is running because they need to brainwash you with marketing crap about how their utter ugly device can barely handle kitkat with 3GB of RAM....
Ill get you some tissues no worries.
Make . Believe
I would buy the Z5 compact. Most of the same specs and capabilities, but lower res screen to save on battery and performance hiccups. The screen is still over 320ppi, so plenty good enough
The only flaw in this ultra new smartphone was the Snapdragon 810 SOC. Don't know why people still chooses to go with this problematic chip while they are well aware that it dampens the performance while on load. And they expect us to pay premium price for that.
Trashboat, 03 Sep 2015At least they tried to innovate and not do what samsung and apple do which is copy each otherIncreasing the resolution isn't innovating, it's just copying what every one else is doing but to a higher degree, a degree which IMO is overkill and unnecessary.
at least sony did not follow Samsung, which followed apple, in naming this unit + or plus.
this is much better than the s6, note 5
Trashboat, 03 Sep 2015At least they tried to innovate and not do what samsung and apple do which is copy each otherwait... innovate with what? 4K display? so to you Sony is innovating, while if Samsung or LG does it, its an overkill/waste of battery/gimmick?
Some people here just makes me laugh with their knowledge.
i think 4K is way to much, overkill. Killing the battery, killing the chipset, pretty much killing everything important. But i don't know, sony might have the solution to address this. But still, it is way overkill. I'm perfectly happy with HD resolution of my Z1C
The chrome body though, very intriguing. With that mirror finish, i can tease a cat without a laser pointer. Would love to have those in Z5C body, that will be my prefect phone, for now. And of course, with more ram, because today apps using much more memory.
I'm not fond of a big phone, Z1C and Z3C dimension is my sweet spot.
Overall not bad....
But at this rate there was zero reason for the Z3+/Z4... By far. I mean it was barely just released.
And aside from the S810 and weaker battery is a Z3.
I'm going to imagine they used the latest revision of the S810. Whether it's it's second or there is a third now. Which means better overall performance. However it's not without issues....And 4K will definitely have some issues. Though not as dramatic as some might claim. Really expected the Note 5 to use 4K and a higher tire Mali.
I really hope they improved the speakers because the Z3 had an advantage over the M8.
And please optimize headphone output.
AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THEY USED A NEW SENSOR!!! Of course sadly the pixels just got smaller and there is still no OIS. Yes their way works well, but no to you Sony extremists...it does not work better than OIS. However if they combined it with OIS it could possibly be amazing.....And smaller pixels? NO! Larger sensor not more pixels. However I'm sure it will work better than it sounds. Especially with the speedy Hybrid auto focus.
Hopefully there is improved processing finally too. I have always thought that the lack of OIS was one of the reasons for the way the image processing was.