Only thing appla has is a marketing department that can get crapping products sold that otherwise would break them so apple investors should really take care of them
Samsung is making their own processors cutting overhead on the cost on 3rd party processor but they can't do it all and stay ahead they need to just let AMD build processor sell them exnos technology that would kill Intel and apple
No Doubt about it. Kyro, Cortex, etc but I never seen CPU called Mongoose/M1, so samsung create his own customize cpu with powerful performance especially about the clockspd to the Galaxy S7 | S7 edge
Anonymous, 02 Nov 2015Are you retarded? All samsung does is manufacture the chip but apple completely designs it top... moresamsung is way bigger than you think.
Agreed. Apple doesn't produce good hardware at all. What processor does iPhone 6s have? Just a dual-core 1.84 gHz. Samsung's S4 has a sronger CPU, 1.9 gHz quad-core. And don't ay that iPhone is more reliable because that just isn't true. I have heard too many stories about how it wasn't working properly. Only some last for 3-4 yrs. and that's just luck.
Vendhar, 03 Jan 2016Apple's CPU custom design in their A9 chip is already next gen compared to competitors's chips... moreAnd is that why the Exynos in the Galaxy S6 series has only been beaten by ~5% by the iPAD PRO? Is that why the Exynos 7420 in the Galaxy S6 beat the iPhone 6S SoC by a healthy 20% on processing performance? Well, think again...Apple played catch up on the processor this year.
Apple has always been weak on the processor and strong on the GPU. Yes, the GPU of the iPhone 6S is a lot faster than all other smartphone rivals. The latest exynos is tackling that issue by going balls to the walls with the GPU this time around. Oh, sammy also bumped up the CPU performance so much, that the processor of the iPhone 6S looks like low-mid end range!
Apple's CPU custom design in their A9 chip is already next gen compared to competitors's chipset and CPU released in 2015. Even this moongoose that is meant for phone in post 2016 still lag behind compared to Apple 6s chipset that is released one year before. And it is hilarious that Qualcomm despite being the leader in smartphone SOC industry claimed that 64 bit chip is not possible when Apple already released the iPhone 5s with 64 bit processing and Nvidia already started their project Denver after Tegra 4 was released.
KuyaTokiTokyTalks, 06 Oct 2015You, must always remember and take into consideration that iPhone 6s & 6s+ process the scr... moreAre you retarded? All samsung does is manufacture the chip but apple completely designs it top to bottom and its all there work. Its like samsung is the construction company but apple is the owner and architect all in one so the construction/manufacture just follow the plans laid out to them by the architect and owner they get zero credit for the design. Do you also realize TSMC builds the majority of the cpus for apple on the a9 and they only went to samsung because of the massive demand for the iPhone to keep supplies available. If TSMC could handle all the orders apple would not waste there time with samsung. All test have showed that the TSMC chip on the 16nm has much better battery life and slightly better performance then the crap 14nm base samsung chip. Besides Intel 14nm process dominates either and they are the real leader in silicon production. Samsung should stick to TV's and making garbage operating systems for smart TV's
Apple don't make chips, and nor has ever produced. Apple does not produce anything, others produce for him and most Samsung like this A9. There is a big difference between words "produce" and "assemble". Apple does not produce anything, there is no Apple factory where they produce mobile phones and other devices. There is a company called Foxconn that assemble iPhone phones. There is no Apple factory that products something or ever will. Apple is not going anywhere without Samsung and LG's. Primarily because of screens and chips.
alexandertherager, 08 Oct 2015And where are they NOW? By the time they're released, the A10 would already be ahead of them.They will be released soon. The Snapdragon Kryo before the end of this year and the Mongoose after shortly. You don't need worry about them (the SOC's).
Duel, 06 Oct 2015"simply means that without the very helping hand of Samsung, they are; were; and will only, an... moreizzit?, ReallyÂ…, Indeed? If so, why did Samsung was able to produce its first mobile phone in as early as 1988 with the (SH-100) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Telecommunications#Mobile_phones, before Google's Android was even born and have come and known into existence on September 23, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29, if we are going to follow your argument which says "By the way if you want to go that way, samsung wouldnt be anything without google in phone business". hmm perhaps, by this time, honest and unbiased readers all over the globe might even come into a definitive conclusion that Google wouldn't be anything without Samsung in phone business! Are you one of those honest and unbiased readers that I am referring of? If you say yes, I am; so then, you are a part of them.
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2015So why is Apple rumoured to be working on a hexacore? I bet when they release it all the ap... moreThere were rumors about quad core apple SOC's way back in 2011 so I'll believe it when I see it.
Anonymous, 09 Oct 2015Possibly less than 4 months away according to some. Their chips come out 5 months after Apple,... morethat's funny because according to THIS ARTICLE WHICH WE ARE TALKING about. it explicitly says mass production starts in 9-12 months' time. Apple A10 would be out or near released by then.
alexandertherager, 08 Oct 2015I should have been more specific with my analogy. Intel is to Apple because they focus more on... moreSo why is Apple rumoured to be working on a hexacore?
I bet when they release it all the apps and everything would coincidentally start needing more cores right?
And suddenly improvements in battery will become more important, right?
alexandertherager, 08 Oct 2015And where are they NOW? By the time they're released, the A10 would already be ahead of them.Possibly less than 4 months away according to some. Their chips come out 5 months after Apple, and that naturally means Apple's chips come out 7 months later. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and expect you to understand which two chips should be compared here.
Qualcomm is technically done before the end of the year,but their chips are first used around Feb too typically.
lacp, 08 Oct 2015SOC's of android gang? You really think that the Samsung socs are crap? You think that the new... moreAnd where are they NOW? By the time they're released, the A10 would already be ahead of them.
alexandertherager, 08 Oct 2015I should have been more specific with my analogy. Intel is to Apple because they focus more on... moreSOC's of android gang? You really think that the Samsung socs are crap? You think that the new SOC of Samsung, the Mongoose customized SOC it's crap? Even the new Snapdragon Kryo it's a excellent engineering of Qualcomm. Any of these SOC's have excellent performance and engineering.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2015loved your read.
mind you multi core can be utilized even for a single thread application. ... moreI should have been more specific with my analogy. Intel is to Apple because they focus more on single-core performance and IPS (instructions per second) than puting more physical cores with a lot worse IPS onto a single die, which AMD does.
Intel learned their lesson back in their Pentium era. Those days were a mess for them. So they changed their strategy from high-clock speed to less but with more IPS. Then came forth the Core 2 and Core i-series, which AMD never had an answer to since.
Intel is to Apple, AMD is to the rest of the SOC's the android gang uses.
lacp, 07 Oct 2015You think that Samsung has not capable engineers for make a customized mobile processor? You a... morelol.. samsung sucks when comes to software and customising work is more software than hardware
Remember how samsung RAM management works , which is the basic software engineering
alexandertherager, 06 Oct 2015Oh for heaven's sake. The use of the number of threads and cores a CPU uses is dependent on HO... moreloved your read.
mind you multi core can be utilized even for a single thread application. as long as the os supports it. it isn't as efficient as a multi-threaded program, but can still make a huge difference in the overall performance vs. single core performance alone. that or why does apple waste its time with a dual core processor to begin with. and loved your intel/amd analogy. Mind you i prefer AMD myself, falls under the bang for buck profile which no isheep would ever understand.
but if arm is amd then apple is amd is your analogy? Or did you completely overlook that apples a9 is an arm processor manufactured by samsung in the 14nm process or tmsc in the 16nm process?
remember apple doesn't actually manufacture hardware. and the a9 is just an arm processor which is rather large. wish they would release transistor count on it, as well as power consumption max/min what type of throttling it uses so on and so forth. Short of taking it to the lab and running under a FIB and STEM.
But hey what do i know , your the computer sciences / software engineer.