Grey1213, 28 Oct 2015Copyright infringement isn't even the same as stealing. But yep, you didn't understand a singl... moreKeep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good. Hopefully sometime in the future we will have better global laws so that people like you get what they deserve for all this, proper prison time.
Umbilical Noose, 27 Oct 2015Agree with you here. It isn't same as stealing, its much much worse. Stealing would be when th... moreCopyright infringement isn't even the same as stealing. But yep, you didn't understand a single word despite me repeating it several times for you.
Not going to bother trying to explain it to you because you obviously won't understand either way. You don't understand who loses in economic terms, and you don't have a moral compass either.
Grey1213, 27 Oct 2015Why don't you understand? They're not losing anything if out wouldn't buy it either way, so wh... moreAgree with you here. It isn't same as stealing, its much much worse. Stealing would be when the artist get to know but here people are just backstabbing the artists. Its not about Apple its about doing the right thing. Cool logic there by the way. Do you steal from rich people because you know they wouldn't care. Like hack into a billionaire account and take a few millions cause they wouldn't even know, right? Its just another drop in the ocean.
Maybe in your own self righteous world you are right, but there's a reason why these people are called pirates and they know it all too well. Lets look at the gaming industry. People like you download the game thinking they(the developers) aren't losing anything but let me tell you, they do. Its not easy being a game developer cause people like you exist. They lose their job, their projects are stalled and they can't even claim welfare all thanks to people like you wuth your epic logic.
But I don't blame you either, with population of over 7 billion it is obvious that 99% people don't understand what creating something means. Most of them will just illegally download the music rather than buying it. Again I don't see you understanding because maybe you are a part of some idealistic communist society where everyone 'has to' share everything. Or maybe in your world, people don't go to jail for stealing cause government think it is alright to steal from people who don't/can't care.
Umbilical Noose, 26 Oct 2015I don't care about Government or anything.
The point is, people buy music and artist get m... moreWhy don't you understand? They're not losing anything if out wouldn't buy it either way, so whether there is anything morally wrong with it is dubious. It isn't the same as stealing.
But still, talking crap about morals when Apple doesn't have morals is stupid. You and that Apple fanboy honest realist talking about 'disgrace to humaniy' need to stop using Apple products before using that argument.
To repeat because you don't get it, the musicians aren't losing anything. The remaining moral argument is weak, weaker than 'being a disgrace' for using the products of a company that doesn't pay tax.
Grey1213, 26 Oct 2015Apple steals from the government and thus everyone.
When you steal music it isn't that bad,... moreI don't care about Government or anything.
The point is, people buy music and artist get money. People steal music, well complete the sentence yourself. The whole advertisement thing is BS. Do you think the people who buy original would like to stay in company of people who steal? Nobody wants to be with thieves apart from them friend and family who nothing better.
Oh btw the whole they steal then they buy logic is stupid. If a person wants a preview then there are services available for that no need to steal.
loyal iphone fans are are not using on ios devices .. so they expect android users to use this .. hmmm donno how greedy apple really is. they do whatever it takes to get money from people.
Anonymous, 26 Oct 2015lol, its 9.99 for both, also on apple music, you can have up to 6 users for 14.99. nice tr... moreI'm not a fan of iMusic or Google Play Music, but I do know Google allows me to upload 50k songs from my own PC and have it available across all my devices, so I'm sticking with that one for now...unless iMusic decides to publish game soundtracks.
Umbilical Noose, 25 Oct 2015Don't know about taxes but at least at the end of the cycle the artists are getting paid and t... moreApple steals from the government and thus everyone.
When you steal music it isn't that bad, because most people wouldn't buy it if they couldn't steal, meaning the artist doesn't lose out. In fact you could end up advertising it buy playing it, and making other people buy it, so it could be beneficial. It is a lot better than the stealing Apple does.
Anonymous, 25 Oct 2015Lol. Spotify is better and way cheaper.lol, its 9.99 for both, also on apple music, you can have up to 6 users for 14.99.
nice try though. Apple haters like yourself, have no idea wth your talking about as usual.
just like that, you burned yourself.
Unknown Original, 25 Oct 2015Aah, don't let me start talking about piracy. It people decision whether to buy music or not. ... moreHe doesn't claim to have authority over people. He claims to have a moral compass. He respects the music industry. He basically supports the artists you steal from. He also defends the fact that some are unable to do so (students etc). So get your head out of your disrespecting pirate bay ass now.
Umbilical Noose, 25 Oct 2015$10 a month gonna make you rich? And I am only talking about the developed world. The 3rd worl... moreAah, don't let me start talking about piracy. It people decision whether to buy music or not. You don't have authority over people.
MegaBLK, 25 Oct 2015why pay for whats already easily available mate. whats next we gatta pay just to use our feet ... more$10 a month gonna make you rich? And I am only talking about the developed world. The 3rd world countries have it much more easier with prices going down to ~$4 a month.
I understand why some people choose piracy, they have never created anything in their life. Originality is a word that is alien to many.
Its alright for students, I suppose, cause they are saving everything possible but when totally self dependent people do it, its simply baffling.
@UnKnown-original : As long as it blocks ads containing malware or something, I am fine with it. I hope in future we can have a paid, advertisement free web.
@Grey1213: I am not saying pay for apple's services. All I meant was we should pay for music we listen to doesn't matter what the source is.
Grey1213, 25 Oct 2015Using a morality argument to encourage paying for Apple's services when Apple doesn't pay tax ... moreDon't know about taxes but at least at the end of the cycle the artists are getting paid and that's what matters. Apple is just the middle ground, a service. They don't produce music, they are just a medium like many other out there.
Umbilical Noose, 25 Oct 2015Well there are freeloaders everywhere. I am pretty sure there are more than 100 million people... moreUsing a morality argument to encourage paying for Apple's services when Apple doesn't pay tax is pretty dumb.
UnKnown-original, 25 Oct 2015"Well there are freeloaders everywhere. I am pretty sure there are more than 100 million peopl... morewhy pay for whats already easily available mate. whats next we gatta pay just to use our feet to walk u cant force people to plug thier ears its just like that thats why there are trackID apps to help ppl to identify the tracks they like. and i wont feel any guilt in having what i want for free bro that just aint gonna happen. its a personal choice there are those who want to pay and those who dont...and of topic the rich and wealthy dint get thier loots by handing out what ever resource they were hoarding away for free now did they. in short when it comes to money every cent counts to wards an individuals total worth. ;)
Apple is the one who changed the music industry. iTunes is the first legitimate digital music store that competed effectively with piracy.
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Umbilical Noose, 25 Oct 2015Well there are freeloaders everywhere. I am pretty sure there are more than 100 million people... more"Well there are freeloaders everywhere. I am pretty sure there are more than 100 million people out there who don't even pay for their music. Obviously they don't understand the word inconvenience. Disgrace to humanity is what I call them, stealing everything possible as long as they don't get caught."
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