.alpha, 03 Nov 2015Didn't Samsung fanbois tell me 12mp is 2010's technology? What's next? Samsung come out with F... moreConsidering the Nokia N8 came with a 1/1.83" 12MP sensor in 2010, I guess you can say its 2010 technology :p . But remember that Samsung is bringing a sensor of this size to a slimmer phone, and will be the most technologically advanced camera out of any of the modern flagships.
Anonymous, 03 Nov 2015Wait, low specs, isn't that Apple's thing?You have to be stupid to call a 1/2" sensor low specs. Low specs is the iPhone with its aging 1/3" sensor.
TheNeighbor, 04 Nov 2015Why is Samsung bent on going backwards? Fragile glass back, sealed battery, and now this?I guess the CEO is rich enough and doesn't need the money anymore. ;-)
I'm thinking of giving Mr. Kwon my bank-accountno. so he can donate to me what he doesn't need. ;-)
Omar Mohamed, 03 Nov 2015bad move
htc tried that beforeHTC's efforts weren't bad at all... IF they just upped the megapixel count to a decent 8MP. But they just kept on doing 4MP which IS too low.
The reason is this.
1) If you have a (relatively) bad image (some motion blur, some noise etc..) you can improve it's quality by downscaling (or downsampling) your image. The best quality with no artifacts and the best ant-aliasing are produced by downscaling 50% horizontal and 50% vertical. This gives a 1/4 size of your original image. Just try it yourself, you'll see that you can improve image quality by reducing it's size.
2) It's a know fact that you need a minimum of 2MP to have a proper 10cmx15cm (4inchx6inch) standard photoprint (at high quality 300DPI). For many people "in the industry" this postcard-sized photoprint is the reference point at which photo quality is judged. Thus to have the BEST 2MP image you need to downsample a 8MP with 50% horizontal and 50% vertical reduction. This creates the best anti-aliasing and removes noise. You might add slight sharpen filter (for the photoshop enthousiasts) and you have an amazing photo. So the absolute minimum you need on a phone is 8MP to get the highest quality postcard-size photoprints.
With this knowledge. If you downsize a 4MP ultrapixel image to 1/4 it's original size you do get a perfect 1MP image which unfortunately is too small for a high-quality 300DPI postcard-size photoprint. If HTC eventually had increased pixel-count on their Ultrapixel-system and created, for example, an 8MP ultrapixel M8 then I believe a lot of imaging-enthousiasts (whom know about this reduction trick) would have gone HTC. They were close but no cigar.
Today true photo-enthusiasts (I'm talking about still photography here, not video) still keep using their trusty Nokia 808PV as Nokia's engineers had it spot-on with that phone. Perhaps they could have gone a little bit further, to silence the marketeers, by creating a 12MP creative mode in addition of the current 3MP, 5MP and 8MP ones. But as it is 8MP is just enough. 4MP isn't.
Just my 2 cents
Why is Samsung bent on going backwards? Fragile glass back, sealed battery, and now this?
.alpha, 03 Nov 2015Didn't Samsung fanbois tell me 12mp is 2010's technology? What's next? Samsung come out with F... moreSure, In the mean time I'll keep using my Nokia 808Pureview in 8MP "creative mode" which still blows your phone away (and my Galaxy S5 as well).
whats next? switching to ios?
Megapixels means nothing without a lens that supports the high resolution.
Anonymous, 03 Nov 2015Wait, low specs, isn't that Apple's thing?Not exactly, it's equivalent to standard 13mpx. The technology and size is very different, very different approach
AnonD-1825, 03 Nov 2015But but... What these sammy boys are now going to say about this camera when they already said... moreNah the iPhone 6s' camera is bad because its bad (relatively), as proven by blind tests and official tests. There is no getting around that.
To people who thinks that this is a downgrade, better google up about camera sensors and similar stuff and fill your brains up before you try to exhibit your deficiencies in this comment section.
AnonD-246723, 03 Nov 2015You realize they come together right ?LOL! You mean sensor's size is symmetrical to megapixel count?
Didn't know that!
AnonD-340696, 03 Nov 2015So they're downgrading the camera? lolwutPixel count isn't everything.
Reminds me of HTCs "super duper pixels"
Is downgrading becoming a trend? First they downgraded the battery capacity, and now they are also downgrading the camera. What's next? HTC bringing back their 4 megapixel camera?
So they're downgrading the camera? lolwut
First, the omission of removable battery and expandable storage via microSD/slots. Now, this. Yeah, they are really closing in on their aspiration of handing the battle close to Apple's iPhones. Be it Samsung getting crazy over the new duo of iPhones' (6s and 6s Plus) sales or getting crazily awe-inspired over the duo's performance (especially on the camera department), who knows? They're getting close to iPhone specs on Android flavor. Bad for those spec junkies. Good for those lab junkies who have nothing better to do but to correlate, review and compare on anything that is on an even level of playing field. At least with this move, comparing should just be a coffee break for them. And we could really get an in-depth watch if the next Galaxy S will be able (or unable) to outperform the corresponding/relative model of iPhone. Will the winning formula be heavily contributed by the camera module, the image processing, or an irreproachable balance of both?
megapixel isn't everything the size if the sensor is more important and it makes perfect sense if it means going down from 16 to 12 to gain a larger sensor.yes the iphone 6s have 12mp camera but if this true and the s7 will have 1/2 size sensor which makes it better them iphone's 1/3 size sensor
well i think the 16 MPIX was fine on the S6, the sweetspot for MPIX count is between 12-16 for me.if the sensor is excellent then no need to increase the count on the pixels, it will be fair enough. please sammy focus on the software and updates and please find a way to remove the capacitive buttons or make them swap-able so it can be near android default layout.
Unconfirmed reports yet people are busy bashing Samsung .... smh