I think I could be an Apple Fan if didn't know how some technology works... XD
Anonymous, 26 Nov 2015Apple Pencil is the best digital stylus solution (but very niche as it is iPad Pro only) on th... more>>Apple Pencil is the best digital stylus solution
I disagree. It requires an internal battery to function. You can see it in the picture. You need to recharge your pen, and after a certain battery cycle count it's trash.
Wacom pens (S-Pen, ThinkPad tablet-PC pens, Toshiba Tecra M4/M7 pens, Cintiq pens plus all the other pens of regular graphics tablets) work by means of electromagnetic induction. I happen to be holding a Graphire4 pen right now that I've been having since '07 and it works perfectly. The one in my X61t was also manufactured around '08 and it it works as well as it did on day one. As a bonus, it also works on the Galaxy Note.
Also, you can take them apart by just taking the buttons and the rubber off and pulling off the plastic cover. Even the sensor itself can be disassembled (basically an electrically conductive rubber with a waved surface on top of two gold-plated flat contacts, and the X61t eraser and S-Pen have a ferrite core separated by a spring or rubber coming closer to a coil). You don't need a power drill to cut it open if it needs cleaning.
Apple didn't even bother to specify how many pressure levels there are (can range from 256 to 2048 usually).
And the precision (usually sub-pixel level, painting at 50% size results in no visible noise when zoomed back to 100%) depends on the wiring in the board behind the screen, not on the pen itself.
So the Apple pen is better how again?
Gibbs-kamhagh, 21 Nov 2015coil* + why garbage? i hate Samsung but their s-pen is actually good! (ehm, and manufactured ... moreWacom. The S-Pen has technology from the first Wacom Cintiq tablet models, and is fully compatible with other products using the same technology, like ThinkPad tablet-PCs. You can operate a Galaxy Note with the X61t pen and the other way around, with pressure sensitivity and buttons and all. Apple's pen is nothing. Wacom was there first more than 10 years ago.
Apple Pencil is the best digital stylus solution (but very niche as it is iPad Pro only) on the market right now. Graphics designers, and creative industry professionals are going nuts about it.
Honest Realist, 21 Nov 2015They create hardware too, just because they don't use their own factories to produce it, doesn... moreApple doesn't create hardware. They just buy out companies that create hardware and make them do it for them or contract it out to some company and then create marketing buzz words around them.
Their touch screen tech was obtained by buying out a small Finland based company that went bankrupt because their touch screens had a defect which made them unmarketable. The first gen iPhones had this very defect where parts of the screen would loose touch sensitivity in a horizontal band of area.
Their SoC's were originally made by Samsung, but they bought out a small fabless company named Intrincity which used to work with Samsung for SoC design. However they still have to rely on Samsung for fab work.
Retina display is nothing more than a marketing buzz word for high resolution displays that LG made. Samsung and several others have been making similar high resolution displays at the time. Technologically there is nothing special about these displays. LG supplies similar displays to other companies that want them.
lk.123, 19 Nov 2015which should be in the garbage can. s-garbage!coil*
+ why garbage? i hate Samsung but their s-pen is actually good! (ehm, and manufactured by some other company i don't remember)
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2015honestly, they create nothing but software. so realistically where is the logic in your comment.They create hardware too, just because they don't use their own factories to produce it, doesn't mean they don't design and create the product. They design everything from the SoC's to the screens etc, they simply outsource the manufacturing.
Well, apple is always a better at marketing... i believe its part of marketing since a lot of people will buy there pen for $99 just for a dead battery... yes they know most of there buyers are just plain ST**ID...
not2, 19 Nov 2015its apple! not samsung galaxy garbage.Yeah you are right it is not Samsung galaxy garbage it is apple shit or crapple
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2015the only problem is the bugatti is a kit car , mad from the base of an old yugo. so you are ri... moreDo not compare your stupid pens and pencils with premium cars
Bugatti value increases day by day and apple pencil will be worthless after apple pencil 2 or whatever..
Honest Realist, 20 Nov 2015Apple is the only company in the world that can create something so small that literally every... morehonestly, they create nothing but software. so realistically where is the logic in your comment.
lk.123, 19 Nov 2015i am pretty sure samsung will introduce new s-pen with batteries in it with next galaxy tab s ... morewhy would they do that ,when there current pen which apple is failing horribly to imitate works far smoother?
JD, 19 Nov 2015Technology wise, precision wise and speed wise comparing s-pen with apple pencil i like compar... morethe only problem is the bugatti is a kit car , mad from the base of an old yugo. so you are right dont compare where there isnt even a comparison.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2015Interesting teardown. Other sites include iFixit's observation that the Apple Pencil's innovat... moreApple is not the first to make PCB's with a flex-rigid connection, to make a PCB fit in small complicated spaces...
See this fx: http://ksg-web.cycro.info/ew_images/Starrflex%20Internet1.jpg
Sure it is small, but they did not invent that component size, so nothing innovative here. I'm not saying it is not well made, or cheap... Just that it is nothing innovative in the technological point of the PCB.
The samsung s-pen is far smoother and precise than the apple pencil.
No Fan Boy...!, 20 Nov 2015There is no battery in Samsung's S-Pen...!u'll see