3araby, 19 Apr 2010E71 already has a built in standerd flash player No. Nokia E71 has a Flash Lite player (not a full flash support). But still better than having nothing.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010Enjoying? LMAO!! You guys are probably going hella crazy with your extremely slow so called &q... moreLook kid, i'm not comparing between symbian and android. All i'm saying is that i'm enjoying full flash support in my N86's browser. And i even stream HD Videos in it with WLAN. Pity for u guys struggling for flash support in ur phone's web browser. And what makes me laugh is apple. It don't even have basic flash support. I'm happy for u android guys, for finally getting that adobe flash support as i'm also gonna buy an android phone after some months. Maybe HTC desire.
Adobe player 10.1 will be released for symbian s60v5 in form of flashlite 4.0 for more info visit adobe website
Someone, 20 Apr 2010Deep Space Bar - I've been reading your comments in different news threads. Every comment you ... moreSo you noticed Deep Space Bar but you didn't notice Steve's little business with "HTML5" aka forcing H264 and his agenda against flash and google :))
Deep Space Bar - I've been reading your comments in different news threads. Every comment you make is against Apple. Sounds like you have an agenda.
Deep space bar, 20 Apr 2010Apple just wants money cause adobe has an open source code for flash lol
See how greedy appl... moreIt gets more funny if you read the patent list, there's hitachi, microsoft, samsung, etc and among others Sony that has had only losses the whole year 2009.
Yet not even sony cares about H264 as much as apple.
I don't think apple is greedy, I think they're desperate :))
[deleted post]Apple just wants money cause adobe has an open source code for flash lol
See how greedy apple is no money in flash so make your own and charge companies and developers
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010"On February 2, 2010 MPEG LA announced that H.264-encoded Internet Video that is free to ... moreQ: What is H264?
A: a high efficiency codec (size/quality) that will cost 5 to 10 billions a year to license, after 2015, for companies that provide encoding or playback
Q: What has this to do with Flash?
A: Flash is one of the few companies that provides H264 playback via it's Flash technology for almost every online webpage (flash player).
Q: What does Steve Jobs have against Flash?
A: As long as Flash provides playback and encoding, Apple (one of the numerous patent holders) Won't be able to ask for royalties after 2015 to anyone else than flash.
Q: Is flash free?
A: it is and will remain free as 90% of the web adds use flash technologies and Adobe is one of the most popular software producers on the planet with billions of dollars income.
Q: what does HTML5 have to do with this?
A: HTML5 allows video playback directly in the webpage without the need of flash
Q: Is HTML5 ready?
A: No, but some parts are. It might be approved as a standard in 2012 but the official release is planned for 2022!
Q: Is HTML5 more demanding performance-wise, to play?
A: It is more demanding than Flash 9, Flash 10, and far more demanding than Flash 10.1.
Q: Is HTML5 free?
A: HTML5 is free but streaming H264 is not. Web page owners will have to pay minimum 5 million dollars a year to MPEG-LA, company, that is responsible for H264 if flash becomes unpopular the way Apple desires (yes, Apple is one of the patent holders together with samsung, sony and microsoft)
Q: Then why is Apple so suddenly all against google too?
A: Google intends to provide a free open source codec that is twice more efficient (quality/size) than H264.
Q: What if google doesn't deliver until 2015?
A: You better pray you still have flash installed or else watching video streams that do not play via flash might cost you per minute. It is more likely though that IF HTML5 video is used by 2015, everyone will revert to the new google format, flash or both (flash player, google's format)
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010HTML5 is a lame excuse for apple and microsoft to push the H264 codec forward so they can ask ... more"On February 2, 2010 MPEG LA announced that H.264-encoded Internet Video that is free to end users would continue to be exempt from royalty fees until at least December 31, 2015.  However, other fees remain in place. The license terms are updated in 5-year blocks. "
"Exploring Flash Player support for high-definition H.264 video and AAC audio
The next major step in the video revolution is here. Flash Player 9 Update is taking a step into the high-definition (HD) video realm in a major way by adding MPEG-4 video to its already impressive ranks of video support. MPEG-4 utilizes crisp, powerful H.264 encoding and is an industry standard for video, which includes high-definition (HD) delivery. It is also the standard for HD content online and on devices such as your home television."
"H.264 is the new standard for high definition digital video, and for good reason. A codec based on the H.264 standard compresses a digital video file so that it only uses half the space of MPEG-2 (the DVD standard), to deliver the same quality video. This means you can enjoy stunning HD video the way it was meant to be seen without sacrificing speed or performance.
What is H.264?
Video for DivX Plus™ is based on the H.264 standard, a state-of-the-art digital format for efficiently encoding high definition video. Why is H.264 so great? To make a long story short, H.264 encompasses a collection of powerful features that enable the delivery of high-quality video at very low data rates. Using DivX Plus Software you can create, enjoy and share stunning HD video in the same ways that you can with standard definition DivX® video. This includes creating personal libraries on your hard drive, burning files to disc or transferring them via USB drives to your DivX Plus devices, or even serving them to visitors on your web page using the DivX Plus Web Player."
Agree. I put my comment on iphone 4G article as well. and I would really say and ask realtime question.
How many users or mobile phones, actually use specific Flash related Mobile or Wi-Fi data? very handful..General day to day surfing works just fine without Flash. question of you tube or online streaming, most phones just work fine...
Oh, even if the current Flash Player 9.4 works well, it will be great if it'll get updated to 10.1 so soon. :D So excited to play with my Facebook apps better on this device.
(Looks like Nokia's ahead of other Android phones out there.)
Hope it comes to N900 (Maemo5 device) soon as it is also equipped with ARM Cortex A8.. :D
Android should get one too as their current version is full of bugs.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010Flash Mobile 10.1 if it ever gets released, will only work on ARM 8 or better processors, it w... moreHTML5 is a lame excuse for apple and microsoft to push the H264 codec forward so they can ask millions of dollars a year for everyone who's using it.
HTML5 is open H264 is not - it costs billions of dollars. So far adobe is the only one that provides streaming, they can only "milk" adobe.
Flash + google are the only thing in the way. But by the time HTML5 begins to be adopted(minimum 5 years - minimum 5 years for iPhone to have interactive web content) flash and google will provide a new open source codec that will make HTML5 useless for apple: http://tiny.cc/TheiPhoneFever
Steve Jobs keeps promising for HTML5 since three years ago when he very well knows HTML5 it's at least another 3 years before it is presented to the world wide web consortium for approval and at least another 3 years of development.
So far flash is a working and prove technology coming this year that even at the current stage outperforms HTML5 video streaming: http://tiny.cc/TheiPhoneFever
Good luck in waiting for HTML5 and the patented closed source codec H264 from apple and microsoft that will make you pay for watching youtube :)
Flash Mobile 10.1 if it ever gets released, will only work on ARM 8 or better processors, it won't work at all on old fashioned ARM 11 processors like the one in the N97, N97 Mini, 5800 etc so the Nokia Symbian phones will not be able to run it any way.
Adobe have been saying they were going to release this since the middle of last year and it still hasn't reached public beta, yet they whine and cry that "Apple won't let us on iPhone OS", let what on iPhone OS?
There is no working Flash Mobile 10.1 available on ANY phones and there won't be until the second half of the year, even so Adobe may delay it again!
Steve Jobs asked for it 3 years ago and Adobe still hasn't delivered.
HTML5 is a new OPEN standard that allows rich multimedia content to run DIRECTLY in the browser without using a plug in.
Some of the people commenting here should at least get some idea what they are talking about.
[deleted post]If neither flash nor google end up anywhere and apple & microsoft manage to push H264 forward you'll end up paying to watch youtube: http://tiny.cc/TheiPhoneFever
That was steve jobs's plan all along, that's why he trashes flash. that's why he started trashing google.