Anonymous, 16 Jan 2016Yes they are a good step in mostly power consumption then performance. I'm game on consoles an... moreAt the risk of showing my age, my console gaming goes all the way back to the Atari VCS, and if I'd kept every console I'd ever owned I could open a pretty comprehensive console gaming museum.
I'm not a programmer though, so obviously will not have your level of insight in the actual performance capabilities, oh I can quote performance numbers and specs all day long, my knowledge of how they work though, and how most of those numbers matter though is limited.
I have however also come to the conclusion that yes, sadly it does seem this new generation are not quite where they should be in terms of raw graphical performance (still am really enjoying my PS4 mind).
Asides from the odd dabble on games like Command & Conquer, PC gaming has never appealed to me, though as an amateur tech enthusiast I have always enjoyed watching the advances made in the PC gaming world as much as in the console world.
Lex79, 16 Jan 2016I agree, I'm not a pc gamer, never have been. But I do think this generation of consoles is In... moreYes they are a good step in mostly power consumption then performance. I'm game on consoles and pc. I have had almost every console starting from super Nintendo. So even though I am bad mouthing the xbox one and ps4 I still own them. As a programmer I like powerful hardware and I noticed the shortcomings easily.
Which is also why I decided to stop responding to Parag B. Waste of time.
Anonymous, 16 Jan 2016GO educate yourself. No sense replying anything constructive to your comment. All you spew is ... moreDude u r running out of ideas...i.e u r trying to avoid the argument and completly ignoring all the pointers i have made.
All u spew in ur comments is complete she.t....Lol.
What does ur high power consuming RF tech does extra to Xbox one controller ?
Nothing more than controlling the games.Right?
So bluetooth is a way to go it consumes way too less power and is still works flawlessly .i have millions of ps4 users to prove that.
Again Xbone controller does not even support Remote play with ur anciant RF tech LOL
I already know RF tech is fast as wi fi 2.4ghz but it sud be used where it will b best .I mean u dont need a 2.4ghz connection On a controller to control gaming consoles LOL.
I guess MS went with RF to save money as RF hardwares is super cheap.
ur ignorance wud not chane the facts.
Go do ur homework and Educate urself abt the technology b4 commenting again.LOL.
Anonymous, 16 Jan 2016When PS2 came out it was better than any gaming pc. When Xbox came out it was even better.
... moreI agree, I'm not a pc gamer, never have been. But I do think this generation of consoles is In comparison under-powered.
1080p@60fps as a constant standard is what both Microsoft and Sony should have delivered for this generation, it's now obvious that is not the case.
That said, I still think both offer a good step up in terms of performance and features when compared to their predecessors.
Lex79, 16 Jan 2016I'm assuming you mean by PC standards yes?When PS2 came out it was better than any gaming pc. When Xbox came out it was even better.
When 360 came out it was way way ahead of the highest end pc.
Now compare back then to these under-powered excuse for consoles now.
AnonD-100398, 16 Jan 2016
1) I guess All of ur gadgets are from stone age i.e u found ur bluetooth slow...Lol..So u th... moreGO educate yourself. No sense replying anything constructive to your comment. All you spew is garbage.
Because RF is faster than Bluetooth that means RF is stone age? LOL
RF is as fast as 2.4ghz wifi. Again go educate yourself smh.
..., 16 Jan 2016-you are wrong actually those games are just ran on emulator on ps4 and do feature original co... moreYou are wrong. The ps2 games are not emulated. That forbes link is speculating. You will have to also re-purchase those PS2 games
Also you are wrong again. Xbox one has "true" emulation. Put disc in and play. See below
"Xbox One Backward Compatibility is easy to use
The digital tiles that you own and are part of the Back Compat game catalog will automatically show up in the “Ready to Install” section on your Xbox One. For disc-based games that are a part of the Back Compat game catalog, insert the disc and the console will begin downloading the game to your hard drive. After the game has downloaded to your hard drive, users will still need to keep the game disc in the drive to play."
Lex79, 15 Jan 2016I'd agree that the PS4 is clearly the better console, but dam if I'm not craving an Xbox One i... morePffff, for Gears!!!, Altough not having SF 5 is why I went with the PS4 in the end.
I'm a PC gamer over 15 years.Last year picked up a PS4 because I never had consoles and I wanted to see how is Next Gen console gaming......well...it blowed my mind....I must say 2015 was my BEST gaming experience I ever had on PS4 especially in multiplayer games ...you have to see it so you believe it(...I was blind cause of pcmasterace).....I think that PC is dying year by year and Next gen consoles are here to prove it....this is sad...even Steam is trying to copy somehow console UI and accessibility but needs a lot....lot ....of work to do...but will never,ever catch up consoles...
Anonymous, 15 Jan 2016I disagree about both being good. Both are terrible by todays standards. One is just worse.I'm assuming you mean by PC standards yes?
Anonymous, 15 Jan 2016Please it doesn't have PS2 back compat. You cant play ps2 games from discs. What sony is doing... more-you are wrong actually those games are just ran on emulator on ps4 and do feature original code,see on link they mention emulation http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/11/19/sony-sneaks-in-ps2-backwards-compatibility-for-the-ps4/#2715e4857a0b31aa9b3b45ac
-but thing is, its publishers decision, if those games would be added digitally, along with support for trophies and etc
-i am sure publishers had a say in if disc could be used again to play ps2 games on ps4 and probably most popular were against it,just like xbone got limited amount of xbox 360 games to support with their emulator due to decisions of publishers
-my guess is neither sony or ms want to upset developers working on their consoles and thats probably why neither has true backwards compatibility,but unlike ps2 which doesnt sell anymore as its too old, xbox 360 still sells and my guess is they managed to gain favor of publishers by stating they could release games on 2 systems at once with emulation disc compatibility with xbox360 and xbone and have more audience that way
-and if you ask why cant ps3 be emulated so easily, that's probably due to ps3 having much stronger hardware compared to xbox 360 and due to using completely different hardware architecture
Anonymous, 15 Jan 20161. Bluetooth is slow... Fact. Whether it lags or not, Fact is Bluetooth is slower than RF. So... more
1) I guess All of ur gadgets are from stone age i.e u found ur bluetooth slow...Lol..So u think that the huge company like SONY which relies on gaming industry a lot wud use slow bluetooth on there next gen console PS4 ..LOL ur logic very funny..More over bluetooth consumes much lessed power than ur Rf Powered old tech x one controller which does not even support wireless bluetooth connectivity with handhelds.Lol
2)Do u work as a counsoler to tell ppl to get educated ..lol.keep ur cheap ta.lks to ur self..Lol.& Thats what with xOne u need to buy a new version or adapter or this or that to make things work..so there is no hassle free way.Lol
3) Remote play has to very much to do with controller technology so i guess u need to educate urself first..no spoon feeding from my side.but What a shame niether xbox nor its controller support remote play type tech.Lol
4) so Triggers vibrating everytime u shoot a gun ,what a headache for a battery life.But ur talking as if ds4 does not vibrate only.lol ds4 vibrates where its needed.
Nope,My logic is that the ds4 controller is way beyond the xbox one controller.Period.
5) Battery can be replaced. one does not need to buy a need to buy a new controller just cause the battery is performing.
Bottom line...Ds4 is way more advanced than Xbox one controller.
Anonymous, 16 Jan 2016Learn to follow discussion. We are talking about xbox and Playstation. How did wii enter the ... moreyou said "last gen´s best seller was xbox 360" you know the wii was one of those consoles in the last gen right? or maybe you are some poor guy who doesnt even own a console or something ;)
Tyler.gee, 16 Jan 2016Last generation was the wii who sold the best not xbox 360, if you didnt know.Learn to follow discussion. We are talking about xbox and Playstation. How did wii enter the discussion?
Anonymous, 15 Jan 2016PS4 is just the better "gaming" system this time around. Xbox One focus more on full entertain... moreLast generation was the wii who sold the best not xbox 360, if you didnt know.
Lex79, 15 Jan 2016Yeah I know where you are coming from, I had to make that choice, I chose the PS4. But despite... moreI disagree about both being good. Both are terrible by todays standards. One is just worse.
JackJones, 15 Jan 2016I'm still torn between the two of them. I'm more interested in the PS4 for the exclusives, how... moreYeah I know where you are coming from, I had to make that choice, I chose the PS4. But despite some of the comments on this thread, it is not (nor should it be) a clear cut choice.
Both are good consoles, and both have their advantages other the other.
Tyler.gee, 15 Jan 2016Idont know why play station seel so much, yeah it do has more power than the xbox one, but for... morePS4 is just the better "gaming" system this time around. Xbox One focus more on full entertainment. So of course gamers are going to buy the better gaming machine.
last gen it was 360 (Sold more). PS3 eventually caught up after the race ended.
Gen before it was PS2.
AnonD-100398, 15 Jan 20161) Lol R u for real?, even on ps4 the ds4 controller works on bluetooth mr .genius & and i... more1. Bluetooth is slow... Fact. Whether it lags or not, Fact is Bluetooth is slower than RF. So Bluetooth isn't an advantage.
2. Xbox One controller has 3.5mm jack. Go educate yourself a new version of the controller was released months ago with built in 3.5mm jack.
3. Remote play... What does that have to do with the controller technology?
4. Triggers vibrating are kool, it gives feedback for Guns genius.
So everything the xbox controller has and Ps4 controller doesn't have is irrelevant to you? Nice logic.
5. When the battery eventually dies you will have to open the controller to change it. That's not an advantage.
Bottom line.... Pointless.
Idont know why play station seel so much, yeah it do has more power than the xbox one, but for what? the only games they launch are first shooter games, people continue buying call of duty everysingle year which is the same exact gameplay with nothing new? and fifa which is the same aswell, and you are getting charge if you want to play play station 2 games which maybe you allready have, but you have to buy it cause the "THING" cant just read the physical disc, and sony just want you to pay for the game again just because? and you call that better? and bayonetta 2 was game of the year and its for wii u so just cause you have a ps4 doesnt mean you have the better games.