DenisXD, 18 Feb 2016That's nice, but making a smaller sensor with more mp means a worse sensor. They should had ma... moreApple uses sony's sensors in their phone. The High megapixel setting is a choice. Having the camera use less lets groups of pixel resources work together on capturing light, hence why the lower megapixel apple phones work better in low light, but they are using the same sensors with high megapixel capabilities. A good chunk of it is software difference man.
That's nice, but making a smaller sensor with more mp means a worse sensor. They should had make a bigger sensor instead with less mp for improved low light photography. But no, Sony needs to market 22,5 mpixels on a ridiculously small camera sensor.
A bigger camera sensor is always better than a smaller one, end of discussion
sony should improve their camera software even they use good sensor,their camera cant compete with the others .even with 1 mironmeter and large pixel their camera software are not good and the result are same just like z5.Also they have to drop the price because z5 is expensive than galaxy s6 ang lg g4.
AnonD-278667, 16 Feb 2016Wait 3 axis stabilization isnt that present on the LG V10???LG the best on cameras!wait and se... moreLet's see if this can beat my 808 pureview. I won't accept a phone with inferior camera quality compared to my 808. All current crops of smartphone has fall short
This sensor would've been amazing at low-light photography if the effective resolution was reduced to 12.5mp. And they should just stop focusing on marketing the resolution of the camera and tell people more about how it will produce much better photos at night and other advantages.
AnonD-501724, 16 Feb 2016Who cares if they even launch 50MP camera, they should just stick with 8MP until they can get ... moreThe sensor is good, its lacking good optics because they didn't want to implement a camera hump on their phones. That's why we get the soft edges the heavy post processing... The sensor itself is fine and top notch
AnonD-152638, 16 Feb 2016" The sensor has a pixel pitch of 1.0μm, which is smaller than its predecessor, the p... moreMaybe this one day will be the answer:
No lens at all !!! Of course this is still in a very very early stage, and of course it requires more processing, but processing power has until now always been growing rapidly...
AnonD-278667, 16 Feb 2016Wait 3 axis stabilization isnt that present on the LG V10???LG the best on cameras!wait and se... moreLG flagships have 3-axis OPTICAL image stabilisation. This IMX318 sensor has 3-axis electronic image stabilisation ;)
Who cares if they even launch 50MP camera, they should just stick with 8MP until they can get that right without aggressive noise reduction destroying the perceived image resolution, or give us mobile raw so we have the choice to ditch their ridiculous JPG processing algorithm.
Z5 camera (sensor) was supposed to be the duck nuts, and all in all it is not even close to what it was supposed to yield in terms of quality and focus speed.
Pretty embarrassing for Sony when most competitors using the same SONY sensors are getting more out of them.
AnonD-152638, 16 Feb 2016" The sensor has a pixel pitch of 1.0μm, which is smaller than its predecessor, the p... moreI almost totally agree.
Though I believe the best would be if they go for the non plane sensors. That could allow them to give us larger sensor-area in camera-modules of the same height.
Currently it is the thin devices, and thus low height camera units, that is the real problem.
Even though I personally would MUCH prefer a 12Mpixel sensor over a 20Mpixel one of the same size (Similar to what Panasonic did with TZ70 after the beating the TZ60 took)
But as people are stupid and incompetent marketing guys have 'taught' them that larger number of pixels means better, I think it will be too hard to sell a reduced number. It is more likely that they will find fancy ways to get a larger effective sensor area that really matters and keeping the advertising numbers.
Another possibility is camera-arrays, but I guess this would require really high accuracy to work well.
AnonD-152638, 16 Feb 2016way off it has a 1" type sensor.
The pixels are like 2.4 microns.
It might very well be th... moreSpot on! Thanks.
The pixel-grid is somewhere between 2.4 and 2.5 microns, so the area of each pixel is about SIX times larger on the CM1.
So if we assume a fast F2.0 lens in front of this new sensor versus the F2.8 on the CM1, it will be at least TRICE as bad in poor light- on top of the diffraction issues from attempting to violate the laws of physics....
New 3 axis sensor must be expensive, it's must be a basic components for every high end device, it is a burden for other companies. That's why Samsung start research and development Britecell, but britecell looks weird it's less of green pixels.
Wait 3 axis stabilization isnt that present on the LG V10???LG the best on cameras!wait and see the LG G5 camera!
Well with better stabilisation the shutter can remain open longer, so yeah I eouldn't expect a drop in quality.
Loving the IMX240 on Galaxy S6. Can't wait to see if certain batches of St while the other rumored to be Samsung's own 12MP BRITECELL. Just like S6 that came with two sensors.
Anonymous, 16 Feb 2016Panasonic cm1 have 1 micron pixel and its is the best camera smartphone photography in low lig... moreway off it has a 1" type sensor.
The pixels are like 2.4 microns.
It might very well be the best.
But that is because is has much larger pixels than other cameraphones.
" The sensor has a pixel pitch of 1.0μm, which is smaller than its predecessor, the popular IMX230. However, despite the smaller pixel size, Sony claims there is no drop in image quality in low light situations."
That might be true.
The problem is that the IMX230 isn't good enough in low light situations.
There are improvements made to sensor technology which makes the pixels more light sensitive. Less prone to noise And there are improvements to processing of the data from the sensor.
But I would much rather see that they stay with the bigger pixels, and use this new tech to further improve low light performance.
I actually would even like to see a step back in resolution.
The small optics used in mobiles, is not sharp enough. Sure, in theory it's good to have a sensor that is better than the optics, but the resolution of the sensors today are much higher than the optical resolution of the optics.
And the sensors themselves really arent good enough. They seriously lack in low light performance. They produce too much noise. They lack in dynamic range.
I wish they instead made a 12 megapixel sensor, using the latest pixel tech. Kept the size of the IMX230 module and scaled up the pixels.
Sony took a step back to 12 megapixels with their A7s, and that did improve low light. And was good for video. So I wish they did the same in mobile sensors.