now who told you that you cannot restore it to the original iPhone firmware?
[deleted post]Well that fully depends on what the problem is. It's not always you can restore your device back to the originally iPhone OS.
So your point isn't directly valid.
And also, yeah Android 1.6 is a bit buggy, but i rather have a buggy OS that can be fixed rather have a buggy and old hardware that can't do crap.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010I say don't jailbreak your iphone if you don't want to risk your warranty.
Your xperia x1... moreAnd if i don't want to risk my warranty on my iPhone by jailbreaking it, then it's not a smart phone either.
Because a smart phone is supposed to be smart. And it's not smart to break your warranty to get most out of your OS on the iPhone.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010Nope, I don't need a file explorer to access my files in my iphone. Unless you are referring ... moreHow many file types can you move to your iPhone via iTunes?.
Lets see if you take this hint :-).
Now, can you use your phone as a USB storage with the files iTunes can move to your iPhone?. Nope, you can't. And there is not way you can disaprove this either, because iTunes only supports some few file types.
So if you want to move some rar, mkv and exe files for example, then what?. You can't move those file types via iTunes.
You need an iPhone Explorer program or any kind of softwares like that on top of iTunes to move those files to your iPhone.
And this is facts right from Apple. Because i know what formats iTunes supports and so on.
About the pictures again, do you really want me to record that with my XPERIA X10 that i'm moving a picture via iTunes over to my iPod Touch that is running iPhone OS 3.1.2 to prove you that the pictures gets extremely horrible after they are transfered to iTunes?.
If i have to go that far to prove it, then omg.
And how can you get songs on your iPhone without installing iTunes on your friends computer if you want songs from them?. Your basicly stating that Apple are dumb them self because they say you need iTunes to transfer music over to you iPhone.
Yeah, nice way to prove that you have absolutely no freaking clue on what your talking about.
No, ofc Apple is not the only company that is sued. But why are Apple getting sued all over the places in the first place?. Is it because Apple is doing everything right?. LOL i mean, use common sense.
Well if you want a device that can use flash, then it's Apples loss.
Would be idiotic to have to change out the phone only because iPhone lacks flash that is used ALOT out on the internet today.
But like i have said many times. There is a reason why Steve Jobs doesn't want flash on the iPhone, because that would explain it to us all why iPhone sucks hardware wise.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that.
Any Android 2.2 phones today can run most of the flash content on the internet today without problems. It's just when you are going to a web page that contains really heavy flash things when the Android 2.2 phones are going to struggle against.
I bet that the iPhone wouldn't even be powerfull enough to even run the simplest flash game that exist on the web today.
If Apple want to prove that their phones are powerfull as they say they are, then they can show us how iPhone OS is running flash. So they better allow us to use flash then if Steve Jobs claims the iPhone is a good and powerfull mobile phone.
If Google goes over Apple already after 4-5 months now, it only shows that Google is doing something extremely right with Android. Right?.
And if this continues for the next 1 year, then how popular do you think iPhone will be in 1 year then?. LOL it will end up by getting in the same situation as UIQ OS was back in the days when Sony Ericsson owned that OS.
It died slowly but surely. And the same thing will happen to iPhone OS / iPhone if they don't change the way they make iphone OS and the ywas they restrict their customers from using the phone like it should be used. They have to find a new way of doing business.
Because when you know how much locked down and restricted iPhone is, it's taken as monopoly. And you know what happened with Microsoft when they had their monopoly on the Internet Explorer right?.
I like Steve Balmer because first of all, he's a very cool guy, and secondly, he's not a dumbass who sits and controls what program and stuffs i can make to Windows.
No, iPhone is crap, end of story, and it will be that forever. Even if iPhone 4G have nice specs and looks really nice, it's still going to be as much locked down and restricted and still be as much controlled by Steve Jobs, so because of that, IPHONE FAILS HARD.
It might not be manipulation for you, but 80% of those who buys an iPhone doesn't know what's behind it all and doesn't knows how much locked down and restricted and how much controlled the iPhone is by Steve Jobs before they buy the phone.
That's what you don't want to graps.
If you know what a smart phone is, then why do you buy a smart phone that you have to lose the warranty to get most out of the OS?.
iPhone is never going to be a smart phone before the phone is jailbroken. End of story.
Once it's jailbroken, then you can get most out of the OS and it will be taken as a more smart phone then. But again, once jailbroken = no warranty anylonger.
Anyways, just to show how ridicoulus the Apple Keynotes are, then watch for your self here.
Hahahah, i have no words on how stupid that is.
No wonder why guys like me hates Apple, because what they are advertising is just ridiculus. And i have a reason for it.
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010Yean and those who jailbreak their phones wont have a warranty anylonger on their phones.
S... moreI say don't jailbreak your iphone if you don't want to risk your warranty.
Your xperia x10 is not the iphone. If it serves you well, then good for you. What has that got to do with us?
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010ROFL, you don't need a file explorer to access your files?.
Ok, you have one thing to do, p... moreNope, I don't need a file explorer to access my files in my iphone. Unless you are referring to type of files that I don't use.
Photos look great on the iphone, period. That is the truth.
Yes, there are songs that my friends have that I like. I ask them for the title and I download it from itunes directly to my iphone. No need to bt or connect to their computers.
The iphone is an awesome device. Maybe not to your liking, but its units sales is proof that a lot of people like it.
Anyone can sue anybody. It does not necessarily mean you will get a court date. Suing Apple does not necessarily mean that they're guilty as well.
Apple is not the only company in the US that the DoJ is probing. It's good that DoJ is investigating antitrust matters, but they have not proven anything yet either.
Customers always have a choice. If I want flash on my device, then I would simply get a phone that supports it. I want a smooth running phone, and if that means not supporting plug ins like flash, then that's fine with me. So as you can see, I clearly have a choice.
As I have said, Apple has been honest about those restrictions. It's not like they've been saying that they support flash and when you get your iphone it doesn't. You have a choice whether you want to get the iphone or not.
Balmer is Balmer, Jobs is Jobs. They have different ways of conducting business. If you don't like the way Jobs does business, then don't support his products. Apple has already surpassed Microsoft's capital share. Apple will not accomplish that if they're making bad business decisions.
If google surpasses Apple, then good for them, but I'll keep my iphone thank you.
Iphone is not crap, but your mentality is full of crap. No one is forcing you to buy the iphone. If Apple chooses the walled approach, that is their choice and it should not concern you at all.
There's no manipulation at all. We made a choice. Why can't you just respect other people's choices?
You don't know every iphone user. You do not know our educational background and credentials. Who are you to say that we barely know how to turn on a phone? You are dumb :)
We know what a smartphone is. But more importantly, we know which smartphone suits our needs. You go figurr out for yourself which one is good for you instead of wasting your energy in iphone articles.
[deleted post]I don't need to root my Android device to get all out of my Android OS.
Ofc, the newer Android OS'es have new things and are much better, but we can all get it later on our XPERIA X10's without losing out warranty because we don't have to do some sort of jailbreak / hack on our phones to be able to use the OS fully out.
This is what you don't get.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010Stop lying. The iphone is fully operational out of the box. Those who jailbreak their iphone... moreOh i forgot to say this.
Even if you have programs that works good on your iPhone, it's not gonna change the fact that iPhone is a jail phone that are locked down and restricted extremely much, so Steve Jobs can sit in his office to controll what you can install or not on your phone.
On Android, there is almost no restrictions on what you can get. So if i want ot be a programmer for Android, then i don't have to worry about someone that will sit there and make decissions if others can use my program or not.
if i make a program that is NOT with child porn and that kind of stuffs, then it's fine. Most porn apps are accepted on Android Market, because Google doesn't want to be an arse to their customers.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010Stop lying. The iphone is fully operational out of the box. Those who jailbreak their iphone... moreYean and those who jailbreak their phones wont have a warranty anylonger on their phones.
Sooooooooooooooo, what do you say to that?.
I don't have to lose my warranty on my XPERIA X10 just to be able to use the OS fully out of what it can do.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010I am telling the truth. I don't need a file explorer for my iphone or ipad to access my files... moreROFL, you don't need a file explorer to access your files?.
Ok, you have one thing to do, prove it. before you prove it, your lying out of your ass.
Photos doesn't looks great on the iPhone if you zoom on them, end of story. This fact have been proven, so care to prove that statement wrong?.
Ok, bad for you that you don't have those good friends with many nice songs that you like. But i have many of thoser friends. And i don't want to sit there and install programs after programs just to move over some musics and stuffs.
And i don't care wher Apple sells their products. iPhone is still terribly bad no matter where it's being sold.
If you don't believe Apple can't get sued, then why did many think that Microsoft couldn't get sued either because of the web broswer thing?.
They still got sued to hell and back and had to pay for it. And so will Apple do, it's just matter of time now before Apple have to change on their way of doing business.
And here is another sue of Apple: http://www.neowin.net/news/apple-facing-antitrust-inquiry-into-music-store-practices
Why do you think Apple is getting sued all over the places now?. Is it because what Apple does is right?, or is it because what Apple does now is not after what the laws says?.
Not hard here to see what's going on.
Well, when Apple is facing antitrust inquiry into music store practices, then it's far from being sued from opportunists.
I'm just gonna get the popcorn ready when Apple is for real getting sued and when their cases are starting against Apple.
And to you Anonymous. When Steve Jobs says no to flash, it's not letting the customers to have a choice, it's only to let Steve Jobs control what you can have on your own phone. Yes, you are supposed to own your own phone and not by Steve Jobs.
When i buy a phone, i can do whatever i want to do with it without having some dumbasses to controll what i can install or not.
Does Steve Balmer with Windows sits in his office and says no, you can't install that and that?.
No he doesn't, simply because Windows is an open OS that is free for everyone to make apps and games for. And this is business.
And yeah, when you see how much Android have grown the last year, i can pretty much say that what Google is doing, is good business.
If Android grows as fast as it does now, it will already take over Apple in 4-5 months.
And then to you Anonymous that is not the same Anonymous as the one over here.
I say the things i say about iPhone because the iPhone is crap because of the restriction and because iPhone is totally locked down.
How hard is that to get?.
Yeah, those millions of iPhone users got manipulated by Apple because they cheated them to think the iPhone is the most amazing and revolutionary and awesome product in the world by their adverts.
What the hell do you expect those peoples who barly know how to turn on a phone to believe?. Ofc they believe Apple on what they are saying.
Like i have said many times already. iPhone is for users that have almost no clue about what a smart phone is.
Those buy iPhone because it's easy to use and not because iPhone is a smart phone. Because iPhone is far from being a smart phone.
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010It's very bad because first of all, you pay a butt load of money for a mobile phone that have ... moreStop lying. The iphone is fully operational out of the box. Those who jailbreak their iphones are those who want to get more out of their iphone. Think of jailbreaking as someone who bought a car and then took it to a shop and have all sorts of aftermarket stuff done.
The iphone is far from being just a toy. It's a good device for web browsing, emailing and 3rd party apps. I am in the medical field and have found tons of medical apps that I find very useful on my day to day work. A lot of my collegues both in the medical profession and in other line of profession also bought the iphone, and they find it very useful.
And yes, we all think that the iphone is an awesome device. It all depends on how you use your device.
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010Well, don't take me wrong, i'm fine with everything here. I'm just pointing out where iPhone f... moreHey, your opinion is not the only one that counts. Every user is ultimately responsible for their purchase. You are not merely stating your opinion. You are discouraging and hating the iphone.
Millions of iphone users are happy with their iphones. You cannot discount them. We know and understand why those restrictions are imposed. And to a lot of us, it does not really matter.
If those restrictions don't work for you, then don't buy the iphone. No need to be hateful and disrespectful.
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010It's better to have the choice to use flash rather than not being able to. If you install Adob... moreAgain. No Flash support is a business decision from Apple. They are entitled to that decision. There is no law that requires all devices to support flash, is there? If flash is your top priority on a device, don't get the iphone.
Stop making unsupported speculations as to the reason why Apple decided not to support flash. Jobs has posted the reason why they won't support flash on the iphone and the ipad. Go to the Apple website for their explanation.
The iphone has the highest customer satisfaction rating. Who cares what cnet thinks :)
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010Hahaha, you don't know iPhone or iPod Touch much if you say you don't have to use a file explo... moreI am telling the truth. I don't need a file explorer for my iphone or ipad to access my files. So I don't know what you're talking about. Can you explain to us what you mean when you say "access your storage". Cause that to me does not make sense at all.
Again, photos look fine. I won't waste my time reading your link because I don't care if itunes resizes it 1000%. it looks great and that's all that matters to me as the end user.
You want 2gb of mp3 files from your friend? Again you are exaggerating. I don't have friends like you :)
I seldom share files to anyone. My friends have their own resources.
Oh please. People are not ignorant. Apple does not sell their products in remote areas, but in big cities.
When making business decisions, it has to be compliant with the law. If your business decisions is lawful, you cannot be sued. You can try, but it will not get a court date if you cannot provide a strong case to be considered by the court.
Apple is getting sued by opportunists. They want Apple's money. Can you enumerate all lawsuits filed againt Apple and which ones they lost? You're nothing but a bitter hater :)
BrianAW, 01 Jun 2010You know sometimes not just a person who 'want this' or 'want that'.. Also many ppl have a ... moreBut you see you always have a choice. If a device does not have the features that you need. Don't buy it :) No need to be bitter and hateful :)
Virus, 01 Jun 2010The problem is that I have to buy mac, to develop apps for iphone or ipad. Its ridiculous tha... moreThat shouldn't be a problem. Don't develop apps for the ipad and the iphone then :) Remember, you always have a choice :)
When u buy a phone at u take it home after a while u wish u had gotten something else or u should save more to get somethings else it always happen but sometime wit the phon u want and bought and wish u didnt u grow to love
please redo your points so that I prove them wrong please.. post it here once again :)
dude when I stating all your points wrong GSMARENA is sending them to monitor them by moderators :) if you really want to have a good discussion lemme know... I will post them in a file and upload it to my site :)