I don't have an I-phone but I do work in a mobile phone company and I can tell you now that we have sold 426 of the 16gb 3gs so far this year alone and that was with a shortages of stock so it would have been more than that had we been able to get them in.
Now, my point is if they are so rubbish as a few people on here say they are, why do they sell so well?
Answer is different people have different tastes, so for you I-phone bashers on here.......go and get a life and accept the fact that some people like the I-phone as it suits their needs and tastes.
iDave, 01 Jun 2010chill out, your getting so deep ABOUT A PHONE!!! its just a phone who cares, if you like it bu... moreWell, don't take me wrong, i'm fine with everything here. I'm just pointing out where iPhone fails and i'm also giving all the facts about the current iPhones so everyone knows exactly what they are buying if they buy an iPhone that is out now.
I can't say much about iPhone 4G yet and about it's hardware, so the phone it self have to be reviewed and so on before we can take decisions.
But as for the iPhone OS 4, it will still be as bad as earlier iPhone OS'es, because of the restrictions and on how much locked down the whole thing is.
And the reason i'm heavily are discussing things here is because someone in here seems to absolutely have no clue about what an iPhone really is. And that's what i'm saying. Apple is cheating their customers into thinking the iPhone is very good while it's very bad because of the restrictions the phone have.
So for all i care, you can just buy an iPhone, but don't be sad or anything like that later when you find out how much locked down the whole thing is if your the same kind of user as i'am.
BrianAW, 01 Jun 2010I think thats not an evolution..
Evolution is get a big improvement..
When the firs+ genera+... moreIt's PHONE, IPHONE, NOT IPONE. Good grief!
I suppose we should be grateful he's not said IBone! LOL!
Tom-Helge, 01 Jun 2010Hahaha, you don't know iPhone or iPod Touch much if you say you don't have to use a file explo... morechill out, your getting so deep ABOUT A PHONE!!! its just a phone who cares, if you like it buy it, if you dont dont. you will not put me off buying the 4g because i like the iphone i like how its laid out i like how the OS works i like it hence why i bought the 3g and then the 3gs and more than likely the 4g or what ever it is called, who cares about them getting sued, windows are getting fined in europe for competion issue, that doesnt stop me from using it. Apple getting sued wont stop me either so... chill out. its only a phone and if it is a fad then it will die out and everyone will turn to you and praise your genius as you were right...
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010You prooved your point dude.. thats just EVOLUTION!!! there never was a revolution by Nokia go... moreI think thats not an evolution..
Evolution is get a big improvement..
When the firs+ genera+ion ipone is released..market already has 3megapixel,5megapixel camera phone,multitask function,and 3Gvideo call..
ipone is so slow..
Untill 4g just have video recording..
Im buying 90euro NOKIA phone its already got Video recording(640x480)10fs per second..
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010Apple does not support flash. That is very out in the open. As an iphone user, I understand ... moreIt's better to have the choice to use flash rather than not being able to. If you install Adobe Flash on your mobile phone, you will take the risk of probably having your phone to get a little slower.
But i'll guess Steve Jobs already knows that the iPhone sucks so much that it can't even run flash at all.
I'm not stupid and i know why Apple doesn't want to have flash on their phones, simply because everyone would see how horribly their performance on their crappy phones are then.
The Android phones can run normal flash games and those kind of stuffs pretty fine. Except for the most heavy flash stuffs, like my own web page that are in pure flash. Or that's my old web page.
It only shows how much better the other phones are than iPhones are.
Again, don't talk Apple up to the skies and make others to believe iPhones are great when this site clearly state that the iPhone is the biggest pile of sh*t phone to ever exist, and on top of it have many good reason to mean it: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029453,49303754,00.htm?s_cid=96
And that's just one example.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010You only have to install itunes once. Everyone needs a music and media library anyway. So wh... moreHahaha, you don't know iPhone or iPod Touch much if you say you don't have to use a file explorer on your computer to get full access to your files on your storage on your phone or iPod Touch.
And i'm talking about this before the devices are jailbroken. Once they are jailbroken you can handle files much easier.
And if you say you can have full access to your storage on your iPhone without an iPhone Explorer, then tell me where and how you do that. Because in my years of having an iPod Touch, there isn't a single way to get full access to your storage on your iPhone or iPod Touch without installing some kind of software.
Is this some kind of damage control to prevent others to see what iPhone and iPod Touch really is?.
And about the resizing of the pictures your transfering via iTunes, read this: http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42389
It haven't changed anything at all since that time that topic was made.
And you say i have to email the files to my self to be able to get the files?, hahaha is that a joke or what?. So if i want 2 GB with mp3 files from my friend, should i just e-mail it to my self?. Hahaha. Dumbest idea ever.
And you take me for sharing files and such. Well, who doesn't do that all day long today?. Ofc, i'm not sharing my files on the internet though, i'm only sharing those files with my friends that are connected to my computer via the LAN. But that happens maybe 1 times every 3-4 years now.
The iPhone sells only because Apple announces the iPhone for the most revolutionary and most amazing and awesome phone product in the world. What do you expect the peoples with no clues about the technology and all of the stuffs that are in the mobile phones today to believe?, they will ofc believe Apple on that.
And that alone is to cheat customers to believe the iPhone are great, while it's not.
And you say you can't sue Apple for their business decisions?. Ok, so you mean that Microsoft couldn't get sued either for what they did in Windows?.
Ofc Microsoft got sued for what they did and had to change on the thing they did wrong.
And what Apple is doing now is way worser than what Microsoft did. And why do you think that Apple is getting sued all over the places now?.
I mean wow, you fail so much here, you have absolutely no clue on what your talking about.
This is the biggest damage control over Apple i have ever seen.
You must work for Apple or something.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010Oh please, read your posts again please. You're always saying " I want this, I want that... moreYou know sometimes not just a person who 'want this' or 'want that'..
Also many ppl have a same requsition..
I believe that appl3 fan also has problem or needed from them..
Juz send your sound to them,strength frm one person is not enough really..
For me,i will spend my money on to the thing i like,n it must great full around..
Did u know guys??? If something best,it must appreciate to everyon3,not juz stand for itself..
Seriously im not be criticsm..
ipone is definetly changing the mobile industry..I means for touch screen..
But..ipone didnt get win..cause it didnt wide range of application..
Although ipone got 100000+ app..
Really useful no so more..dislike
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010There are thousands of "outside developers" developing for iPhones and selling throu... moreThe problem is that I have to buy mac, to develop apps for iphone or ipad.
Its ridiculous that I cant do it on PC.
iPhone = Communism
They control everything you do.
I'm glad they don't force us to buy Macs just to transfer data from the iPhone or iTouch to a computer.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2010Way to talk out of both sides of your mouth. You vehemently defend, seemingly to the death,... moreOh please, read your posts again please. You're always saying " I want this, I want that, I want this and I want that". As if Apple should contact you first before they produce the next iphone, lol. It's either you like the iphone or you don't. That is why all of us have the freedom to choose which device is right for us. And if the iphone is not right for you, then get something else. No need for you to whine and whine about it. But you know why you're bitter? It's because a lot of people bought the iphone over whatever your preferred device is.
[deleted post]Apple does not support flash. That is very out in the open. As an iphone user, I understand and support Apple's stand of using standard formats instead of plug ins. That is my personal decision which may not be yours.
As for videos, we can download them directly to our iphones via the itunes app. No need to decode.
[deleted post]All professional reviewers will bring up the good and bad side of a device. The iphone will not be exempted from that. But in totallity, iphone reviewers are always impressed with it.
Why are you asking us why we paid for the iphone? It is our money. Oh my gosh you are crazy, lol. We paid for it because for us it is worth it. There's really something wrong with your mentality, lol.
[deleted post]Ok, where are these crazy amount of people complaining about the iphone's hardware? Are they your friends who also bought all three generations of the iphone and realized they prefer a hard keyboard? Lol.
There are professional reviews about the iphone. And just like any devices, all reviews will bring up all the pros and cons about the device they're reviewing. And the iphone mostly gets impressive reviews.
Please stop making assumptions about iphone users on why we bought our iphones. A lot of us went to the Apple Store to check it out and asked questions before deciding to buy it.
What lies are you talking about on iphone commercials? Apple has been very honest on features that they support, and those that they don't.
And please don't brag about your technical expertise in here. You don't seem to be an authority on it.
Finally some people who have actually used an iPhone and unlocked it to its full potential are replying.. I tried to be polite to people at first when I started commenting but the people are so stupid that they made me mad too..
Guys these people totally doesn't worth it because they suck at using a device or actually never had one.. :)
iPhone was a revolution.. is a revolution... will always be a revolution
there is no other phone that made so much hype ever :)
guys installing custom roms on HTC or OTHER WM voids warranty no one ever cared about that? and now when we JB people start saying JB sucks and all that.. Guys no one cares what you do with your device.. I know the fact that iPhone is one of the most usuable phone around if not best it is just mindblowing for the price it comes for atleast to me :)
And when JB it just kicks ass of any phone in the whole world I am gonna upgrade to 4g whenver it comes.. No one can change my mind because I know how to use my Phone.. I have tried all nokia/samsung/ericsson shit.. but they are all shit and iPhone is a real usuable phone :)
David, 01 Jun 2010There is actually a investigation going on in the European Union Trade and Finance court over ... moreThen let's see what will happen to that investigation. Every company has the right to make business decisions as well. It is up to the consumer whether they agree with those business decisions and support that device, or look somewhere else. You can't buy a car designed for unleaded gas and complain why you don't have the freedom to put diesel in it. But you are free to take that car to the shop and rebuild it if you like, and lose your warranty, and probably mess up your insurance as well. As for the iphone, you are free to jailbreak it and do whatever you want.
[deleted post]You only have to install itunes once. Everyone needs a music and media library anyway. So why would that be a hassle? And why would I need an iphone explorer? I think you are referring to jailbroken ones because I never had to install such a thing and I've always had full access to all my files.
If you want a file from somebody else's computer, simply email it to yourself and your done. You don't even have to connect your phone to anyone's computer. The reason behind the itunes file management is PURE synchronization of files between your phone and your personal computer. How can there be consistency of files between your own computer and your phone if you are going around hooking up your phone to other people's computers? And really, how often do people do that? I personally would NEVER allow anyone to hook their devices to my own computer. If you want a file from my computer, ask for it and I will send it to you, don't just connect your device to somebody else's computer. Even if it's your parents. That is unethical.
I see that you are big on file sharing. Is that what you do all day? Are you like the provider of files for everyone? Lol. Well you know what? The iphone is obviously not for you. But you see, not all of us are big on file sharing. That is why the iphone works well for me. I share my files through email when I need to.
I've taken pictures using my Canon camera and transferred them to my iphone and they look really good. Even when I zoom them. You are just trying to find faults and exaggerate.
The iphone sells because it's pretty much the best phone in the world. It will not sell millions, and it will not outsell other smartphones if it's not.
You cannot sue Apple for their business decisions. They did not force anyone to buy their iphone. As a user, it is your responsibility to shop around and test products out before you buy them. There is a 30 day return policy. If people are not happy with their iphones, they will return it. And I'm sure there are some who did, but the majority kept theirs.
BrianAW, 01 Jun 2010Give a EXAMPLE:
If NOKIA made a handphone
N XX 3Mp 3.5inch Symbian^3
2gene... moreYou prooved your point dude.. thats just EVOLUTION!!! there never was a revolution by Nokia got it?
iPhone was a revolution.. in every generation of its :)