Anonymous, 27 Mar 2016For your information I personally use iPhone so stop with the snapdragon BS (even though I hav... moreTomato, tomatoh ... both Apple and Qualcomm processors I put on the same pot, all they care about is gaming benchmarks. At least Apple pause applications in the background so they make their processors look fast, what is Qualcomm's excuse? Oh I know "we.can't.create.a.good.soc".
You seem hardened though, I gave you a direct example of an app that *utilizes* more than 4 cores and you didn't bat an eyelid.
Here's another one: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile-cpu-corecount-debate/11
Actually MOST popular apps show that same pattern (4+ cores in almost full usage). I'm a tester and I've done my research, I work with those things trust me. Sure the less used (or usable) apps only utilise one core, but who cares about them boy? Maybe the 10 people buying your app... I'm talking about the majority here.
Anonymous, 27 Mar 2016That's why I call you a fan boy, you only quote things out of context. Here's one of the test... moreFor your information I personally use iPhone so stop with the snapdragon BS (even though I have access to alot of different Android phones through work for testing our applications).
And again, Im not saying multi cores are useless from a efficiency point of view, but we are talking about performance.
The fact is that most applications do not make use of multiple big cores for executing main threads so the power of a single big core is of course very important for speed.
Its not wonder why Apples with its powerful designed Cyclone/Twister cores can fight of octa-core SoC. And Anandtech have made it no secret what they thinks of Apples CPUs :)
It's be interesting to see these compared against Mediatek's (much cheaper) flagship MT6755 Helio P10 chip in the Xperia XA...
KUNTA KINTE, 27 Mar 2016I started laughing with tears, when i read his fans Exynos nonsense , mumbo jumbo. AnTuTu test... moreHaha Qualcomm fan boys are so fun. They probably haven't finished primary school. I always wondered how such a bad company (qualcomm) sells so much, then I saw the average qualcomm fan.
Can't read a chart, knows nothing about math, trolling that betrays no knowledge, knows nothing about computer science. They are impressed by big words and a good name (snapdragon sounds better than exynos).
All you qualcomm fans can't tell one thing and back it with data. That's both funny and sad.
Here, run Antutu 24/7 , I'm sure it will answer emails for you, surf the web, play games. After all that's why we buy phones, to run Antutu!
You're being played and you're proud of it, silly fools.
Samsung fans, you don't know anything. Silence is golden, in your case. Snapdragon, for now, is the winner. Will not Club regulars with cold water. It's just, the rain water.
exynos 8890 (second hand) vs. snapdragon 820 (the best one) - speed test. winner is....snapdragon--super... super.... speed.
I started laughing with tears, when i read his fans Exynos nonsense , mumbo jumbo. AnTuTu test said, the final conclusion, Snapdragon is the best, that is understandable fans Samsung, SNAPDRAGON is KING
Reality is one. Snapdragon is top level and Exynos is outsider.
Destitute fans of Exynos (Samsung). I don't know, what the world is. Are, anywhere. They arrived, to live in their own lies. The most effective, best processor, currently, is Snapdragon 820. Other processors are exceeded. Point.
Anonymous, 27 Mar 2016Perhaps you should should read it yourself. Most of the time its a single big core or running ... moreThat's why I call you a fan boy, you only quote things out of context. Here's one of the tests that doesn't only take core use but also utilisation in acount:
Can you see how total utilisation often exceeds 4 cores, and *always* exceeds two cores?
The belief that android apps merely balance the load is an atrocious lie.
Your precious Qualcomm would actually be slower in those tests even from last year's Exynos 7420. That's how bad it is for only using two cores that are not useless...
It's only good for artifical benchmarks. Next time run Antutu 24/7 so that to feel that your SoC does not suck...
nothing new here. 2015 exynos conquer the SOC race and yet again on 2016. Better battery life, which is very important for non-removeable back, and real life performance.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2016I just gave a link, don't you know how to read?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile... morePerhaps you should should read it yourself. Most of the time its a single big core or running the main thread (sometimes switching between cores) or in some cases its spread over more cores but not at full load. Again, its about running running efficient, not for max performance. And its not about poor programming, its simply not possible to spit all problems into sub-task that can run in parallell. For all those cases it doesn't matter if you have 100 cores. The only thing that matters i the single core performance.
"Again, in terms of actual total run-queue depth this task could have easily been done by a 2-core SoC such as Apple's A6/7/8 without losing on performance. What one has to consider though is that the per-CPU load on such a SoC would be much higher, requiring higher single-CPU performance or frequency. Because the app actually manages to spread out the load equally over 4 CPUs, it should actually be able to take advantage of pararellism for the sake of power efficiency instead of performance"
Anonymous, 27 Mar 2016Haha! I'm neither a Qualcomm fanboy, employee or a shareholder and I'm not even talking about ... moreI just gave you a link filled with apps using at least 4 threads. And by that I mean using them *well*, not just balancing the load.
What more do you want? Of course and things like scrolling don't care if you have 2 or 8 cores, but other things do, those that actually need that much power. Lastly games are not well coded, so stop refrencing them, gpu matters more there anyway.
Stop with your lies and admit that you have bought some Qualcomm shares (there is no shame in that btw, you're just wrong).
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2016Who cares about games boy? I clearly told that if you're a gamer buy an SD820. Of course Exyn... moreHaha! I'm neither a Qualcomm fanboy, employee or a shareholder and I'm not even talking about any specific CPU for that matter. But I am a developer I am saying is that its not a myth as you suggest that single threaded performance is important. Its very much important for the performance of most mobile applications.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2016I very much doubt that Xperia T lasts 7 hours with screen on.
The only reason that you phon... moreActually, it was 2 days and a few hours by playing about 2 hours, listening to music while reading about one more hour and watching mkv videos... I guess it was from 20 to 40min (using codecs with hardware acceleration support so it wouldn't take a big toll on the gpu/cpu).
In any case, now that I remember, I used to use some snapdragon software to enlenghten its battery duration, don't remember the name anymore.
Now, leaving that aside, you would be susprised about how much Sony used to optimize the phone, I had always wondered about the use time GSMarena shows on that phone's specification page since it was taking longer for mine, but well, whatever...
[deleted post]Qualcomm fan boys are so funny. They never make any sense. I mean if I was a fan of Qualcomm I would had been driven mad too. Being mercilessly beaten for so many years in a row makes your head make the wrong calculations.
Without the fan boys Qualcomm would already be dead, you must be drunk or a complete fanatic to buy into their BS propaganda and buy their weak, fire breathing chip.
Like another user said: Garbage in, garbage out.
Haha, take out your trash.
Let's be realistic, Snadragon is unrivaled, yet. Is King processors. Exynos is the valet station, leading to KING tray.
ljames, 26 Mar 201630% is delusional. Keep trying.Did you see the video?
Qualcomm: 161 seconds
Exynos: 123 seconds
That's 31% seconds exactly.
Go back to Antutu that shows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and be happy with its results. The rest of us prefer REAL WORLD tests, where of course Qualcomm is a joke.
First of all it kills most background apps, I mean whaaaaaat. 30% is actually a low value, in every day life it will probably be 100%, while your Qualcomm PoS chipsets tries to open the document I had open 2 hours ago (reloading it from scratch) I would already be reading it on my Exynos, imagine that happening with every app. So happy to not be an American.... Exynos FTW!
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2016Obviously you don't :)
That it is running multiple processes at a time means nothing. If y... moreWho cares about games boy? I clearly told that if you're a gamer buy an SD820. Of course Exynos can play all games almost exactly the same, but still buy SD820, maybe there are two games that run better there.
Then of course there is everything else done on a phone where SD820 is VANQUISHED.
Pffft, gsmarena is filled with Qualcomm employess/shareholders... They can't handle the truth.