RichX, 30 Mar 2016It would help if we know your name ;) Anyway, quoting conclusion of your article you linked to... more10 core is the sweet spot.
2 for heavy tasks, 4 for medium tasks, 4 for simple tasks.
Much better battery life than 4+4
If you'd read the article you'd know why that is better than simply down clocking.
Mediatek is boss. Additionally they don't care for gpu which is also a plus (more user available ram, mobile games are trash anyway)
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016Did you even read the article, dum dum? The summary of that article is that anything more tha... moreYes, did you? The battery life is phenomenal. You seem a bit slow.
Also plenty of apps use more than 4 cores, that's such a silly comment.
Next year's SD830 will destroy the Helio X30, why do Mediatek embarrass themselves with second rate chips.
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016Did you even read the article, dum dum? The summary of that article is that anything more tha... moreRumour has it that theres an s7 version thats coming with mediatek helio x20. Its just a rumour
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016Read the comments first before making such a silly comment. A user above you posted this: h... moreDid you even read the article, dum dum? The summary of that article is that anything more than quad core is useless based on today's applications. Mediatek is trash, that's why you see it in budget or midrange phones.
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016so they will equip this with the iphone 6s GPU.
by the time it is launched, it will be outdated.
uh, not sure
apple are about to buy Imagination Technologies. they will most likely keep Powervr GPU for themselves if it happen.
currently Intel still use PowerVR for Atoms and in talk with AMD for their GPU IP.
so they will equip this with the iphone 6s GPU.
by the time it is launched, it will be outdated.
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016Read the comments first before making such a silly comment.
A user above you posted this: h... moreIt would help if we know your name ;) Anyway, quoting conclusion of your article you linked to:
"There's very solid evidence that not only are 4.4 big.LITTLE designs validated, but we also find practical benefits of using 8-core "little" designs over similar single-cluster 4-core SoCs. For the foreseeable future it seems that vendors who rely on ARM's CPU designs will be well served with a continued use of 4.4 b.L designs. Only MediaTek seems to fall out of the norm here with its upcoming X20 SoC, which I'm definitely looking forward to see as to how it behaves in the real-world. We'll also see some vendors revert back to quad-core designs in their custom architectures - while we've yet to get a better picture of how these will behave in terms of performance and power, I think that 4 cores will be a quite reasonable target and sweet-spot for vendors to aim for."
1) 4 cores seems to be the optimal sweet spot. The most beneficial is a 4+4 design (LITTLE.big) where you run the weaker cores more often.
2) Custom architectures are going back to 4 cores (because it's the sweet spot).
So yes, 10 cores is a marketing hype by MediaTek to grab headlines because they've got nothing else to trump about.
Mirkran, 29 Mar 2016They cram more and more cores because Android is a core-junkie. xDu wat?
RichX, 30 Mar 2016Idiot solution isn't it. Throwing more cores at the problem is akin to throwing more megapixel... moreRead the comments first before making such a silly comment.
A user above you posted this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile-cpu-corecount-debate/18
So yes more cores help to both performance and battery. Moaning, or using less cores (due to said Moaning) doesn't help...
Really? 2.8/2.2/2.0? -_- there's nearly no difference between the low power and mid power. :/ and atleast make the mid cluster with a57. or atleast A72 if the high power has costum cores! ;-;
10 nm process still not ready, or at least won't be cheap. even upcoming amd/nvidia still use 14/16nm because 10nm not ready yet. afaik TSMC will ramp their 10nm on 2017, it means it takes few month to test x30 design, another few months for bulk manufacturing, and few other months to see x30 on phones.
whatever it is, i only need one and only features from Helio series:
Quit happy from my Helio x10 powered device, i watch movie a lot on it. So my next phone will be Helio-powered device
not all the cores are utilizing by all applications , even the google aplications also not utilizing ,
1) android os , should be modified by goggle itself , they should not preload unwanted services and apps in os .
2) android lolly pop os takes including all updates with asus applications 8.7GB of free space
3) I don't know , why it taking so much space , its not computer , we have less rom only , I have used kabonn phone last year in that phone , 512mb rom , out of that I got 120mb free , 350mb os kitkat 4.4.2
4) goggle should remove many applications which is in inbuilt ,
5) google has not concentrating security features to customers , because many security certificates are already expired , we can check in all the smart phones
cyborg.bit, 30 Mar 2016mobile games aren't jokes anymore. of course they aren't as good as PC or console but the thin... moreMobile gaming will always be dictated by the lowest common denominators. Developers are tired of making "For Adreno" or "For Samsung S6" special editions. So guess what, most of the games out there are designed to run well on budget cheapsets because the devs want to reach out to the masses and gain as large a userbase and advertising base as possible.
So innovation at top end and upper mid-range (where the Helios family claims to target?) is quite irrelevant to bringing better gaming to the mobile market. The real innovation we need to push and watch is on the low-end of the scale, stuff like Snapdragon 425/430, MTK6738, or MTK6750. But come on! Putting 4-8 cores, 2 GPU cores and feeding it off 1x32-bit RAM interface? You're not going to go far.
On the top end of gaming innovation, Apple devices will lead the way especially with iPhone SE, the entire family of devices will become a pretty narrow development target to work on. As a single optimization target, iDevices post iPhone 5S still present the largest piece of the pie.
why mediatek still focus in core or pixel for camera not try more performance or battery efficiency ?
Idiot solution isn't it. Throwing more cores at the problem is akin to throwing more megapixels into the sensor. It took the camera industry 5 years before they realized more megapixels wasn't the solution, or at least they've hit a bottleneck in how much the market bought into that rubbish.
You certainly don't see Intel throwing massive amounts of small tiny cores at the power efficiency problem.
I don't want to call MediaTek cheap, but really, let's just face that they're second rate designers. That's why they need to use this kind of tactics to garner marketing headlines rather than introducing real innovation.
Has anyone ever tried to code a program that runs across 8 CPU cores in the most effective way possible? Not academic programs like Pi crunching or whatever.