Anonymous, 30 Jun 2010Only simple Os's like iOS use Opera Mini... For real smartphones there is Opera Mobile.
Ope... moreNow let me get this clear...are you actually comparing the iPhone to a Nokia 5800?????? OMG!!!!! lol
Firstly Opera Mobile. I used an Opera browser on my Samsung H1 and although it had strengths, it doesnt compare to the Safari browser. I have another browser on my iPhone named Atomic Browser. This actually replicates a full PC browser minus flash (you can replicate IE, Firefox and Safari), using the pinch browsing from Safari. This is a superb browser that enables the iPhone to be used as a full screen browser. Now these are what you call proper mobile browsers. Have you actually used Safari as it appears you havent?
And you can use Rapidshare on the 5800. Hows the live tv streaming? Pretty much non existent. We in the UK have TvCatchUp for the iPhone, as well as dedicate Apps for many live tv streaming sites.
Heartbreak Kid, 30 Jun 2010LOL no of course not, I was saving the crazy comments till last ha ha
Opera Mini? Yes its g... moreI believe the "flaws" you are referring to are some functions of the opera mini that either:
1) iPhone can't handle
2) you are too used to Safari and anything different from Safari, you thought it's a flaw
And yes, simple UI for simple users. It's true.
I'm an event planner. I need to know the weather everyday to ensure the weather doesn't affect my event. I can do so just by looking at my HTC sense home page, no clicks needed whatsoever.
I can put all my most commonly used programs and apps in my homepage, and they will be just one click away from my homepage. For the iPhone, if I need to go to some apps, I probably need to swipe across a few pages to reach it.
Heartbreak Kid, 30 Jun 2010LOL no of course not, I was saving the crazy comments till last ha ha
Opera Mini? Yes its g... moreOnly simple Os's like iOS use Opera Mini... For real smartphones there is Opera Mobile.
Opera Mini is just a simple Java option for these Os's
Danny of Vodafone, 30 Jun 2010i am currently using a LG Arena wich i have had for over a year now the screen is starting 2 c... moreYou cannot compare the App Store to Ovi Store....
App Store is the only place for Iphone users top get apps... All the apps have to be approved by apple and they a monopolizing the whole business..
Ovi on the other hand is just another of the hundreds of symbian app stores available on the web.. and a simple one too for those people whole want it simply like the Iphone....
For others there are many other better app stores and thousands of apps and of course google is a great help.
Danny from vodafone, 30 Jun 2010i work for vodafone we got the iphone 4 instock on thursday and it sold out in hours and we ha... moreWhat, other phones cannot combine all those features like the iPhone does?? You really need some help....
Iphone 4 only has a simple UI for simple users with simple minds. If you want full functionality and and open environment, you should really try a Symbian... At least I can download content from Rapidshare using my 5800, can you?
BTW, This memo was sent to all Apple Store employees, did you get it?
-Keep all of the positioning statements in the BN handy – your tone when delivering this information is important.
-The iPhone 4’s wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. Our testing shows that iPhone 4’s overall antenna performance is better than iPhone 3GS.
-Gripping almost any mobile phone in certain places will reduce its reception. This is true of the iPhone 4, the iPhone 3GS, and many other phones we have tested. It is a fact of life in the wireless world.
-If you are experiencing this on your iPhone 3GS, avoid covering the bottom-right side with your hand.
-If you are experiencing this on your iPhone 4, avoid covering the black strip in the lower-left corner of the metal band.
-The use of a case or Bumper that is made out of rubber or plastic may improve wireless performance by keeping your hand from directly covering these areas.
-Do not perform warranty service. Use the positioning above for any customer questions or concerns.
-Don’t forget YOU STILL NEED to probe and troubleshoot. If a customer calls about their reception while the phone is sitting on a table (not being held) it is not the metal band.
-ONLY escalate if the issue exists when the phone is not held AND you cannot resolve it.
-We ARE NOT appeasing customers with free bumpers – DON’T promise a free bumper to customers.
Read point 7... Nice customer care right?
i am currently using a LG Arena wich i have had for over a year now the screen is starting 2 crash and freeze and it dosnt have the features like the iphone 4 i.e app's ect the phone has sold more than any other phone in the time since it has been released every iphone has been a succsess even the 1st gen 1 wich by all accounts off the pace with other smart phones but now the iphone 4 has caught up and now is leading the way!!
just look at the amount of features you get with it and the app store is great aswell nokia have tryed to compete with the ovi store but it just dosnt compare! the only real contender is the Android Market!
[deleted post]LOL no of course not, I was saving the crazy comments till last ha ha
Opera Mini? Yes its good but its not great! I have used Opera Mini in many phones INC the iPhone and it has many flaws with its page compression and rendering. To me, Opera Mini is only designed for phones that dont have a decent inbuilt browser or as a back up for low connectivity areas, ie no 3G but EDGE or GPRS.
And simple phone for simple users? Ok you keep convincing yourself that. Now I hope I havent disturbed you playing Solitaire mate :)
BOMER, 30 Jun 2010Iphone definetly the best on earth but when people talk about ps3 its rubbish totally usele... moreLOL ok ok Xbox is better if it makes you feel better :) Thats a totally different subject mate, we both agree the iPhone is good so thats a mutual understanding :)
[deleted post]LOL Yes im suffering how did you guess? The iPhone haters are bringing me down, im gutted, im resulting in coming to a forum that requires no sign up and open chat, chatting to anonymous strangers, mainly whom have rubbish handsets and are trying to vent their anger towards Apple...
Oh im suffering now, really suffering!! ha ha ha ha
[deleted post]LOL ha ha im hardly gonna play with my iPhone when im on my work pc! ha ha
Heartbreak Kid, 30 Jun 2010Danny the iPhone haters normally play Solitaire on their Symbian phones. The PS3 is fun, the X... moreIphone definetly the best on earth but when people talk about ps3 its rubbish totally useless i should say hopless gaming console ever made.. XBOX360 ROCKS KINECT ROCKS HALO ROCKS GEARS ROCKS
i work up in manchester in a outbound service centre and from the people i have spoken to there have been issues with the screen and signal but we have been told that both issues will be resolved soon i.e with a software update and the spots fade after a couple of days we are letting customers know about this when they do preorder at there disscression
Danny from vodafone, 30 Jun 2010i work for vodafone we got the iphone 4 instock on thursday and it sold out in hours and we ha... moreHi Danny, are you also from UK?
I'm over at the store in Humberside.
How are you dealing with returns? We have a lot of tricksters that try to pass the restocking fee and claim they've never opened the box.
And then when we prove them wrong they give themselves away and start complaining about the signal issues or spots on the screen and demand full returns.
It's a real circus here, we sold 200 units yesterday and I can swear almost every single one came back today. The bad part is some of them start to scream over a tiny 70 £ restocking fee and scare the new customers...
How are things at your store?
Melissa is cool shes sat 2 desks down from me also from vodafone shes just had 2 much sugar today! bless her
I personally dont agree with this comment Danny and Heartbreak kid. I personally have a problem with all phones, i dont like ipods, i dont like xboxes and i dont like soliaire.. i prefer watching paint dry and when its dry i do it all over again. I make my own music and play with my action figures at home so all you techy freaks I HATE YOU!!....
Plus i dont even have a computer,... my mind is so imaginative i found this in the back of my mind and hacked in to make a comment... HOW COOL AM I!!???
i work for vodafone we got the iphone 4 instock on thursday and it sold out in hours and we had to set up a pre order system. now millions of people have the iphone! and you get the odd sad person who sits on here bad mouthin it! its not gunna stop people from enjoying the phone and the 1000s of apps that u can get for it! iphone give you the best balance on everything you need from a smart phone! if u want to just txt and call ppl get a cheap nokia but if u want sumthing that can do all the things you need if you need a device that can combine email,music,contacts ect in one device aswell as being really easy to use its gunna be the iPhone! you haters can moan all day with your stats ect but real user dont care about that they want a phone that will be easy to use and give them what they need fast and easyly not how many numbers it has to boast!
simple fact is iPhone is leading the way end of!
[deleted post]Actually you are wrong. Safari is already not the best mobile web browser in the market for very long. Almost all review sites had agreed to it. Opera mini had long surpassed it.
And with so many flaws pointed out, you can only repeat "iPhone has the simplest UI, thus its the best." Simplicity is not necessarily the best, it's just a preference of what you want in your phone. Simple UI means you miss out a lot of functions. However, it will of course be good if you are only a simple user who need it for simple messaging and phone calls and some occasional music.
Other than being simple, what others strength of iPhone had you pointed out? Not that I read any.
Danny Of Vodafone, 30 Jun 2010do you notice how only people who are sad and have no life dont get iPhone's they just spend t... moreDanny the iPhone haters normally play Solitaire on their Symbian phones. The PS3 is fun, the Xbox is fun. The iPhone haters dont have fun in their lives. They play games like Solitaire with passion. The iPhone haters also play Snake on their phones. This is their main game which has enhanced graphics which their bug ridden Symbian phones can handle.
iPhone haters also like restarting their phones after trying to access streaming sites on their amazing Flash supported phones. And forget the fact that the iPod is one of the greatest music listening inventions, the iPhone haters biggest gripe is that there is no FM radio. It really bugs them.
I hope you enjoy the iPhone 4, despite its flaws the iPhone will remain the best :)
do you notice how only people who are sad and have no life dont get iPhone's they just spend there time bad mouthing products and the sit and home playing on there xbox's/ps3s and dont have a life! the ipod changed the way we listen to music on the go! n now they have the best mp3 player/best UI/best overall phone out there today the figures speak for them self i for one will be getting the iphone 4! i hear ppl bad mouth the phone and say it has problems! but what phone dosnt! apple will sort the problems! now the iHaters need to sort there lifes out! or for that matter get one!!