sea-breeze, 12 Jul 2010Mr.Damian:
please check the following before releasing the fone we dont wanna be a beta-tes... moreHi sea-breeze!
I agree with you on these points.. :)
BTW I also think that Nokia should give 4-5 different themes pre-installed on N8, all with different icons and font..
Damian Dinning, 12 Jul 2010Camera button feels good and has the right amount of resistance at half press and full press b... moreReally i Appreciate ur answers :)) u give us trust by ur confidence.
one last thing to mention and i thanks ur patience .. the problem with the stiff button was not with the fone owner i mean the fone owner after a while will get used to the hard button. but and it happens always with me .., if i give the fone to any person to shot a pic of me or others it always get blurred cuz most of us is used to the smooth true digital cameras button
i know u did this for long time durability but i always give instructions for others when using my fone to shoot :)) i tell them please dont leave ur finger off the camera button untill the foto appears on the screen :D :D
the problem is after pressing when releasing ur finger the fone shakes so not easy for single hand use .
i know ur point about image compression but it sometimes ain't convienient for users to find 12mpx foto with image size 600kb :)))
also please take a look at iso settings when flash off not to high 200 is enough if more u know what u get :))
Here are two landscape fotos of normal user ... using n86 flash off using my both hands to eliminate shakes ... those cars were barely moving == the fone boosted the iso to even above 400
this one for u sir to show what i mean with Not Pure Black also n86
..I tried another couple images with my other phone the direct n8 competetor in 12mpx field the pixon12 .. the pixon12 lowers the iso to 200 when flash on to decrease shakes as u see here
And this last one using the (night mode) of the pixon12 here i used both hands too :)) as in night mode pixon12 raise the iso settings but no noise
Really thanks for ur time wish u to get my point .. its all for the good am willing to get the n8 as the video continous focus of the pixon12 sucks and u did good to only limit fixed focus in video capturing.
Again thanks alot :)))))
Matt, 12 Jul 2010Why i need to check the prize? even with N8 price you can buy very good computer nowdays, but ... moreif ya really tha conscious'bout ur mob performance thn don go fo i-pone, acually i think u don know'bout mobile world indeed, so im suggestin ya to buy nvidia tegra mobile thas a decent gamin mob n b4 commentin'bout wha is best n wha is worst do some research :)
Matt, 12 Jul 2010i want to see game performance like this on N8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Mu69R7A1s
S... morejudgign by the look of the old racer-game i had for my Motorola A925, with its very limited hardware.
I would say one could this kind of performance from a N8 unit.
Not saying that it wll be a s smooth, but saying that in theory it is absoluterly possible!
i just bought my new canon digital camera and am deeply depressed. i can't believe that n8's photos look more impressive and are more detailed and clear at full crops
sea-breeze, 12 Jul 2010man check the iphone4 price tag and the n8 price tag ! ... the iphon4 price could buy a stro... moreWhy i need to check the prize? even with N8 price you can buy very good computer nowdays, but i dont want computer i have very powerfull pc, i want fast phone which works like my fast pc, i hate slow computers i hate slow phones too, so thats why i dont like nokias phones anymore (i had like seven of them), but i hope N8 is going to chance that and can provide the same smoothness and speed with OS than iphone
by the way where i live i think price difference with those two is going to be like round 100-200e I mean do you really think N8 is going to under 400e?
sea-breeze, 12 Jul 2010Mr.Damian:
please check the following before releasing the fone we dont wanna be a beta-tes... moreCamera button feels good and has the right amount of resistance at half press and full press but not so it possibly causes camera shake.
There will be no compression artefacts in the images but please don't just look at file sizes to judge such things. I have tested the N8 at JPEG settings from 85 through to 100 and even at 300% the eye can't see any difference between them. It helps to have images with quite low noise too, towhich allows efficient jpeg compression without artefacts.
Matt, 12 Jul 2010i want to see game performance like this on N8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Mu69R7A1s S... moreman check the iphone4 price tag and the n8 price tag ! ... the iphon4 price could buy a strong powerfull PC !!!
Jon SWE, 12 Jul 2010"You are so wrong, there's lot of heavy games, maybe they arent for nokia phones, because... morei want to see game performance like this on N8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Mu69R7A1s
Sorry N8 it's not gonna happen :)
That's so smooth, i mean can even game going that smooth on phone :D that's like ultra ultra smooth :D
bricked, 12 Jul 2010Going by how they promoted the N86, the N8 should have a great camera. This should sell rea... moreN8 use new OS so why disappointment? try first. Symbian Foundation must promote their OS too noob like you.
Going by how they promoted the N86, the N8 should have a great camera.
This should sell reasonably well, but I can imagine a lot of people will be disappointed with the OS.
My opinion is that n8 has fixed the n97 issues with gpu and s3, much more processing power, and has fixed the ugly wide menu bar in landscape mode found at s1
please check the following before releasing the fone we dont wanna be a beta-testers we pay money !
and dont say we will fix that in later firmwares!
Before anything please DONT MAKE STIFF CAMERA BUTTON AS N86 !
1) Check the over all speed of the fone after filling more than half of its memory and after some wi-fi browsing and some calls and some videos and images ... if slow lags sluggish hangs please fix before releasing :))
2) for the camera please dont COMPRESS the photo size to the 1.4 and 1.5MB limit !! its a 12mpx camera images should be around 3 to 3.8MB
by the way my pixon12 average image size at highest resolution at any circumstances never less than 3MB.
3) Check the night fotos without flash and the Auto iso setting nokia always raise it to above 300 so photos always blurr and imposible for hand-held
4) Check the Black color at night and please get sure thats its a PURE BLACK my only nokia fone that captures Black in Black was the N82
5) Check the Noise at night and low light !
6) Check if the video after capture when saving to memory card dont hang the fone !
7) Please let the bluetooth items go straight to the gallery instead of saving them one by one !
8) Check the browser in multiple windows .. will it say OUT of Memory or not !
9) PLEASE PLEASE DONT MAKE stiff Camera BUTTON as the previous N86 !
10) Try to make some nice moves in the main themes so atleast we feel we bought a new nokia fone not an old fone with a new camera and a new suit !
... If u did all of that be sure ur sales gonna hit the sky !
-----NO STIFF CAMERA CAPTURE BUTTON PLEASE------
I think nokia has some difficulty task to convience ts customers that s3 is not s1 after the disaster n97.with 434mhz cpu, they deserve this task
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010"As for now, there is absolutely no reason to have 1Ghz processors on mobile phones. Ther... more"You are so wrong, there's lot of heavy games, maybe they arent for nokia phones, because no-one like to do anything for them because they are slow."
No, the phone will use both CPU and GPU, and thats a pretty amount of prosessing power.
"I think N8 should atleast run the game what has been development for N8
do you really think this running smoothly? cmon, i really want to see that game with final version N8, i mean that game run with palm pre a lot better and its also very old but it uses the faster ARM8 nokia using the old ARM11"
Well you dont know anything about how it will run on the finalized version on the phone.
"I think nfs shift is coming to n8 too? i think it's going to be problem too :) Hard to think it's going to go smooth."
again something you cant see until its here.
"I saw rally masters with n8, it runs good but why they had removed sky's and other goodies for that game? i know the reason, it just can't handle the game with all the goodies :) its the same if you use slower computer you take some goodies off to get smooth playing experience"
wait til release before you say anything about it. Perhaps they had not started using GPU acceleration.
"And dont you think it has to handle the future too? or are you bying new phone maybe christmas when you realize it cant handle everything very good"
No device is future proof. And gamemakers really have to try to get their games running on as low speced devices as they possible can, to sell more of the game. And to make it more userfriendly as in the battery wont be drained after half an hour due to the hard CPU load.
"n8 hardware power is going to be problem trust me, maybe not for everyone, i dont understand why buy slow phone if you can buy fast phone even if you think you dont need all the power today it's nice to know it can handle the heavier stuff and maybe coming soon stuffs too without buying a new phone"
You still know nothing about how it will perform.
"Flash need a raw hardware power too, even the fastest phones has difficulties to handle it"
Flash 10.1 can take advantage of the GPU. So flash should be running fine on a N8, when the N8 version is released for real... (not the beta-build)
Lukas24, 11 Jul 2010Only photos in ideal light condition at base ISO. I want low light photos in real life scenarios!according to damian lo low light pictures are coming...
and the posted link http://www.nokian8.me/2010/06/22/nokia-n8-camera-nightshot-samples/ but i have no inside information, and dont know if they are real.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010Jon SWE, well techincally it's Symbian is high level smartphone OS because of low level native C++.well I know it is a high-level smartphone OS. it has great capabilities.
But the direction nokia seems to be taking with it is still the conservetive line. No flashy effects, kind on hardware, kind on battery. And that configuration does not fit high level smartphones today. Sure, you can get themes, and front end applications to make it look good, but then you strain the hardware. And then you perhaps would have wanted some higher specs. But then you would have to sacrifice other things. Especially since nokia have not trimmed that configuration for the units.
But Symbian will evovle in to a OS that will fit below MeeGo, right now there is kind of a gap.